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Thank you. Will try that.
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Finally. This is the Early UV ball that Smergen is having fun with. No way would I attempt to play with this ball.
And a few more.
And of course, cannot leave this one out.
The opposite, I am having to let the ball roll out to the hole. If I pitch close to the hole I end up way past usually.
Well, I did receive my package from Vision today and I am excited, however this a.m. I received a PM asking me to fill in for a tester in the blind test. I will be receiving the test package on Wednesday, so I am going to have to do just as T0AD and save the vision test pack until after I have completed testing of the blind test balls. I guess that is a win/win thing for sure.
Yeah Mike and Couldbeau...
You guys have hit on a very important point here.
Do we need to spin our short game shots?
The answer is ultimately no... Here is why...
I put a hula hoop around the hole and I give you 10 attempts to get to finish inside that hula hoop. For each one you get inside the hula hoop I give you $100, for each one you miss, you give me $100. What type of shot are you going to play to give yourself the best chance to take my money and keep yours? I guarantee you won't be flying it in and trying to spin it. More than likely you will drop the ball onto the green and try to roll it inside the hoop.
Here is the big disadvantage of "spin". We as amateur golfers never know exactly how much spin we put on the ball, nor do we control this amount of spin to a point where we know how much check we will get. There for you are always going to get different degrees of checking. How do you ever develop a consistant short game this way. If we begin just dropping the ball on the green and running it like a putt, all of a sudden we have distance control capabilities. We can use a variety of clubs to then vary our trajectory. Trajectory control will give you the results you are looking for. Lobbing the ball onto the green will give you a shorter run out than punching it low, and this is all without need to spin the ball.
If you get the ball to roll, it is more likely to go into the hole
Why do we putt the ball when we are on the green facing a 40 footer? Imagine you were handed your wedge and asked to spin it close instead. Which would give you the better results?
There is a method to the initial feeling of madness, I have holed out more shots with the Vision brand than with any other golf ball. Why? Because it allows me to be more consistent with my approach.
Stick with it guys and you will indeed get that light bulb moment, then look out, you will be deadly around the green.
Hope that helps...
great post AB.... this is exactly what my instructor was telling me with my pitching lesson. i always used a 60* or 64* and tried to get it close and stop. now im using a 56* letting it roll close and almost holing out sometimes. plus its way more consistent of a shot IMO.
Buckjob, you are not alone there, I too used to throw the ball high when pitching. I quickly learned that if I lowered the trajectory, I became more exact with my landing and distance control. If you really trap it whilst hitting a lower flight, you actually get the ball to sit a little better also. But you (and your instructor) are on the money, a ball that is rolling has so much more chance of finding the bottom of the cup than one that is flying or spinning.
Another point regarding high spin...
Do we always get exact backspin around the central axis of the ball? How many times do we land a ball and it checks a little right or left? How can we possibly be consistent if the ball is also moving laterally along our target line?
Yeah Mike and Couldbeau...
You guys have hit on a very important point here.
Do we need to spin our short game shots?
The answer is ultimately no... Here is why...
I put a hula hoop around the hole and I give you 10 attempts to get to finish inside that hula hoop. For each one you get inside the hula hoop I give you $100, for each one you miss, you give me $100. What type of shot are you going to play to give yourself the best chance to take my money and keep yours? I guarantee you won't be flying it in and trying to spin it. More than likely you will drop the ball onto the green and try to roll it inside the hoop.
Here is the big disadvantage of "spin". We as amateur golfers never know exactly how much spin we put on the ball, nor do we control this amount of spin to a point where we know how much check we will get. There for you are always going to get different degrees of checking. How do you ever develop a consistant short game this way. If we begin just dropping the ball on the green and running it like a putt, all of a sudden we have distance control capabilities. We can use a variety of clubs to then vary our trajectory. Trajectory control will give you the results you are looking for. Lobbing the ball onto the green will give you a shorter run out than punching it low, and this is all without need to spin the ball.
If you get the ball to roll, it is more likely to go into the hole
Why do we putt the ball when we are on the green facing a 40 footer? Imagine you were handed your wedge and asked to spin it close instead. Which would give you the better results?
There is a method to the initial feeling of madness, I have holed out more shots with the Vision brand than with any other golf ball. Why? Because it allows me to be more consistent with my approach.
Stick with it guys and you will indeed get that light bulb moment, then look out, you will be deadly around the green.
Hope that helps...
Well, I did receive my package from Vision today and I am excited, however this a.m. I received a PM asking me to fill in for a tester in the blind test. I will be receiving the test package on Wednesday, so I am going to have to do just as T0AD and save the vision test pack until after I have completed testing of the blind test balls. I guess that is a win/win thing for sure.
Hi Guys, ok it looks like things are moving along,,, I hope you all enjoy the experience.
As you will have noticed I am always adding something new into these packs to see how
different products are received so please dont think every pack is the same as I like to
surprise my new players during the early days as that has been so effective to date in
allowing my players to feel special and as such understand that I believe the relationship
is a two way street.
ENJOY!
Boz.
Yeah Mike and Couldbeau...
You guys have hit on a very important point here.
Do we need to spin our short game shots?
The answer is ultimately no... Here is why...
I put a hula hoop around the hole and I give you 10 attempts to get to finish inside that hula hoop. For each one you get inside the hula hoop I give you $100, for each one you miss, you give me $100. What type of shot are you going to play to give yourself the best chance to take my money and keep yours? I guarantee you won't be flying it in and trying to spin it. More than likely you will drop the ball onto the green and try to roll it inside the hoop.
Here is the big disadvantage of "spin". We as amateur golfers never know exactly how much spin we put on the ball, nor do we control this amount of spin to a point where we know how much check we will get. There for you are always going to get different degrees of checking. How do you ever develop a consistant short game this way. If we begin just dropping the ball on the green and running it like a putt, all of a sudden we have distance control capabilities. We can use a variety of clubs to then vary our trajectory. Trajectory control will give you the results you are looking for. Lobbing the ball onto the green will give you a shorter run out than punching it low, and this is all without need to spin the ball.
If you get the ball to roll, it is more likely to go into the hole
Why do we putt the ball when we are on the green facing a 40 footer? Imagine you were handed your wedge and asked to spin it close instead. Which would give you the better results?
There is a method to the initial feeling of madness, I have holed out more shots with the Vision brand than with any other golf ball. Why? Because it allows me to be more consistent with my approach.
Stick with it guys and you will indeed get that light bulb moment, then look out, you will be deadly around the green.
Hope that helps...
Just found a couple of photos of the balls that I thought I would share with the THP crew...
The first is a picture of the Vision alignment aid against a black background. Thought it might be appropriate to share given the discussion with regards to how good this alignment logo is...
The second one is a bit of a special sneak peek of a new Vision colour that is in the works... The Vision True Blue... Now for those of you who are not up with Australian pop culture, to be termed "True Blue" means that you are a real product of Australia, so it is a very special name to us over here... (Even been a song written by that title).
According to current visual tests being done at the moment, blue is also a colour that is highly visible in the peripheral vision region of the human eye. aThis may provide a further advantage to tracking and locating the golf ball on the course...
So without further ado here is True Blue
That's one of the things I like best about the X3, it always seems to check and release straight. I really don't want a ball to back up, even when trying to put a lot of spin on it. If I misjudge a shot with my wedge and it lands on the front edge of the green, it so far hasn't spun back off the green with the X3's.
I am definitely not spinning it back, and am using a 50* GW, I am just not seeing nearly as much roll out as I was with the e6. 1 or 2 bounces, and then it stops. Not a complaint at all, as I prefer it, just a different result than everyone else apparently. Odd.