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    Mizuno Irons - Shorter?

    Is it just me or do you guys find the Mizuno irons are not as long as the other OEMs? The reason I'm asking I hit the MP 54 (6 iron) on the range. I found it to be about a club shorter than the ping s55 and 712 AP 2. I mentioned this to another guy at the range but he had no experience hitting Mizunos. What are your experiences with Mizuno irons.

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    I think it varies from club to club. But, in my experience some MP irons have lofts that are not as strong as other manufacturers. That may be causing some of the loss of distance.
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    ATL has got it. Mizuno doesn't loft as strong as most companies so there is where some of the distance loss is. Also with a forged head you aren't going to get as much distance than you would with a cast head unless you are center of the face every time.
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    You aren't alone in the distance issues with the 54's, Hawk had similar findings in his reviews and a lot of it pertained to their launch, even with S300's in them they launched abnormally high compared to other irons, there's something with that design and the CG that isn't quite right IMO. I felt the same way about the EZ Forged, the S55's ourpaced those distance wise by a good margin for me in my review as well.
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    I have always been a forged iron player and find the Mizunos to give me equal distance to forged irons of the same loft. As ATL mentioned, most of the SGI cast clubs are several degrees stronger than forged Mizunos thus they should go further. I had previously gamed 3 different sets of Hogans which had slightly weaker lofts than my current Mizunos but I was 5+ years younger with a higher clubhead speed so hit the equivalent iron essentially the same distance. Have also gamed Mizuno MX 300 and Bridgestone J40 DPC since switching from the Hogans.
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    Remember though, he isn't comparing them to SGI irons, he's comparing them to other players irons in the 714 AP2's and the S55's.

    FWIW, in my testing, both of those sets were a club longer than the EZ Forged in the GI class from Mizzy as well. i honestly believe something is off in the EZ Forged and MP54's from a CoG standpoint, something is off.
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    I have been flip flopping between the 54s and 714 AP2s for quite a while now. The first time I hit the AP2s I was convinced they were longer, but after hitting a ton of balls with each, for me they are the same, but I can hit the 54 more consistently. When I flush the 54 I get a few more yards than I do with my i20s, but I attribute that to the KBS tour S being a better fit for me than the lighter CFS-S. I am a low ball hitter so I think the high flight of the 54s gives me more carry. I am going to buy them and my i20s will be my winter set :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLGolfer View Post
    I think it varies from club to club. But, in my experience some MP irons have lofts that are not as strong as other manufacturers. That may be causing some of the loss of distance.
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    ATL has got it. Mizuno doesn't loft as strong as most companies so there is where some of the distance loss is. Also with a forged head you aren't going to get as much distance than you would with a cast head unless you are center of the face every time.
    The Mizzy MP-54s were a half club shorter than my VR Pro Combos which are weaker lofted. The MP69 6 iron is just as long as a Speedbladez 6 iron.

    I just think the mp-54s are a touch short. I actually think they launch too high, with a DG S300. Which scares me.
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    The MP54 has the same loft in the 6 iron as the AP2, both are 30*. However, Mizuno runs a quarter inch shorter in length compared to the AP2 irons, probably not enough to be a club shorter all other things being equal, but you may not catch them as much in the center of the club since they are a tad shorter.

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    Very true, my mizuno mp57 compared to my new set quite a bit of distance loss. Anywhere from 8-12 yards. That's quite a bit. The s300 is part of the reason I believe. Not a high quality shaft for sure. Sold 3-pw for 20$ not worth more then that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysfan View Post
    Very true, my mizuno mp57 compared to my new set quite a bit of distance loss. Anywhere from 8-12 yards. That's quite a bit. The s300 is part of the reason I believe. Not a high quality shaft for sure. Sold 3-pw for 20$ not worth more then that.


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    I do disagree with the DG S300 not being a quality shaft. It isn't unique or exotic. But it isn't poor quality.
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    I had no idea so many people had issues with the 54's, for me they are the same distance as my 68's and I got the same launch and spin when I tried them. Could also be because all I play is the S300 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blugold View Post
    I do disagree with the DG S300 not being a quality shaft. It isn't unique or exotic. But it isn't poor quality.
    I agree with blugold, the Dynamic Gold is a high quality shaft, it's been around so long that it seems like it is outdated, but it is still the most used shaft in golf. Says a lot that it can remain relatively unchanged for forty years and still meet the needs of a ton of players at the highest level.
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    I game the mp54s currently with kbs tour 130. I dont really see a distance loss per say... I hit them plenty long I think. Now comparing diatance to the apex, I hit those about 10yds longer according to a sim. Could be due to stronger loft, lighter slightly longer shaft, or something else. All that really matters is that you hit the clubs well and consistently and you know your yardages
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    Mizuno Irons - Shorter?

    JPX 800s definitely aren't shorter but I believe they're also cranked and longer like standard GI irons.
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