Skimmer alert, but for those staffers that have been playing these for a while now, have you noticed any significant increases in distance?
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Do you mean the 58 is the primary sand club? If the 54 would be the primary sand club, I would say it isn't enough loft, especially on deeper bunkers where you need to get the ball up quicker. I think the higher loft on the 58 with the C-grind would be a versatile club. I also think it would make a better sand club and you should be able to play it off tighter lies. I've had no issue with my higher bounced 60 and 56.These questions are for Ary and anybody else going 54/58. Do you find that the 54 gives you a comfortable amount of loft out of the sand, especially in a deep bunker? Also, how do feel about the higher bounce on the 58? Any issues on tight lies?
I have been thinking about going the 54/58 route with my wedges. However, I am concerned that the lower loft of the 54 would be an issue as it would be my primary sand club.
Absolutely not.Skimmer alert, but for those staffers that have been playing these for a while now, have you noticed any significant increases in distance?
Do you mean the 58 is the primary sand club? If the 54 would be the primary sand club, I would say it isn't enough loft, especially on deeper bunkers where you need to get the ball up quicker. I think the higher loft on the 58 with the C-grind would be a versatile club. I also think it would make a better sand club and you should be able to play it off tighter lies. I've had no issue with my higher bounced 60 and 56.
I just noticed that TM added the Burner 2.0 wedges to it's webpage. A, S, L.
Hawk, I like your thinking with the different bounces encountering different conditions and like Thainer said, you can add loft by opening it up moving the ball around.
It will give you some larger gaps back to your PW. I'd hope you could get some more versatility out of it than just one or two shots. You could use it for full shots (70-80 yards, not sure on your length). I really like chipping with a 56/54 and it works well with tighter lies with more bounce and my swing type. I think it will give you more shots than you think.Hmmm. Then I wonder what the point would be in even having the 54? For me, that is. I suppose I could use it for fluffy lies in the rough.
Or 54(52)/60. I'm just thinking of your gap back to the PW.Thanks. I typically like a low bounce GW and LW and higher bounce SW. I suppose I could just stick to the 56/60 set up and not even worry about all this haha.
These questions are for Ary and anybody else going 54/58. Do you find that the 54 gives you a comfortable amount of loft out of the sand, especially in a deep bunker? Also, how do feel about the higher bounce on the 58? Any issues on tight lies?
I have been thinking about going the 54/58 route with my wedges. However, I am concerned that the lower loft of the 54 would be an issue as it would be my primary sand club.
Hmmm. Then I wonder what the point would be in even having the 54? For me, that is. I suppose I could use it for fluffy lies in the rough.
Thanks. I typically like a low bounce GW and LW and higher bounce SW. I suppose I could just stick to the 56/60 set up and not even worry about all this haha.
These questions are for Ary and anybody else going 54/58. Do you find that the 54 gives you a comfortable amount of loft out of the sand, especially in a deep bunker? Also, how do feel about the higher bounce on the 58? Any issues on tight lies?
I have been thinking about going the 54/58 route with my wedges. However, I am concerned that the lower loft of the 54 would be an issue as it would be my primary sand club.
Hawk,
Good questions, hope I can help you out. Before I got the xft wedges, I played a 54 as my primary sand club. It did the job for the most part, though I struggled some with shots coming out of bunkers with high lips or shots I had to stop very quickly. To stop it quickly, I had to really get the face wide open, which led to inconsistency.
With my new wedges, I use the 58 as my primary sand club because it finally has enough bounce to not dug into the sand and get stuck. I haven't hit a lot of shots on the course off of tight lies, so I can't help much there. I have hit a lot if shots off the mats at my range (sort of a tight lie) with the 58 and not had issues.
Someone asked about distances, I've maybe gained 5 yards on full shots, but that's not a big deal to me.
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I appreciate the feedback! Let me know if you come along some hardpan/tight lies with these in the future. These are among the top choices I have for wedges.
I am hitting these farther than Vokeys.
Hawk, if you like to be versatile with the 50*, why worry so much about the gaps? I kind of ignored gaps when I ordered mine because I feel the same way about the wedge I had bent to 51*. I ordered the 56* with more bounce specifically for the softer FL sand. I have used a 58-08* out of the harder sand here in Cheeseland for a number of years. I had not thought I would play the 56-12* off fairway and rough lies, then tried it and it worked great. It has also worked out of sand really well. It's nice to be able to lay the 58-09* open when I need to as the 56 is not a good flopper, but I'm finding the 56-12* really versatile. I couldn't be more pleased with how the 51*, 56*, and 58* set up has been working out.
Kevin
That's an excellent point and you just validated something I've been thinking to myself for awhile. I absolutely have no reason to gap wedges evenly since I only hit one of them full. I normally look at the bounce and what shots I expect to be able to hit with them. Thanks, Kevin.
These questions are for Ary and anybody else going 54/58. Do you find that the 54 gives you a comfortable amount of loft out of the sand, especially in a deep bunker? Also, how do feel about the higher bounce on the 58? Any issues on tight lies?
I have been thinking about going the 54/58 route with my wedges. However, I am concerned that the lower loft of the 54 would be an issue as it would be my primary sand club.
The 50 degree is becoming my favorite wedge. Hit one to 3' from the distance I wanted. Missed the putt. But love how can I put a full swing on this club with the shaft in place and it just performs. It gives me the perfect amount of spin as well, even with these non-conforming grooves. This club is really suiting my game and wish I would have switched sooner.
I appreciate the feedback! Let me know if you come along some hardpan/tight lies with these in the future. These are among the top choices I have for wedges.
I hope this isn't becoming misconstrued as a wedge setup discussion and it really does relate to the xFT's for me. The thing is, I just don't ever take full shots with anything higher than the 50°. I'm sure that's mental, but I would rather choke up on the 50°.
I wish they were all that close. I am consistently near my ball mark on the green as well, which I like and quite honestly, never expected from the non-conforming grooves.i tell ya after my round monday i am SOOO happy i went with this and not an AW.
Its my fav wedge too - the shaft is fantastic; the wedge just performs. it feels phenomenal. im not that accurate as you yet. but its coming. i got the nod from my head pro today: alignment is perfect. Accuracy should come soon.
I wish they were all that close. I am consistently near my ball mark on the green as well, which I like and quite honestly, never expected from the non-conforming grooves.
I wish they were all that close. I am consistently near my ball mark on the green as well, which I like and quite honestly, never expected from the non-conforming grooves.