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    Miyazaki and International flex code

    Been Pondering the Cleveland Classic since you can get them from $199 these days
    Question of how you find your flex code though.

    How does this work exactly? Do they have some kind of device like the Mizuno shaft optimizer that spits these flex code numbers out for you? Do you just hit every shaft under the sun till you get the best results and that's your flex code? I hear about the "fitting" Cleveland can do for you, yet I have never seen one done, and the last time the Cleveland Rep out this way had a demo day all he had was a bunch of different drivers to hit. No fitting cart, no interchangeable shafts or heads.

    Is there some kind of fitting system that I just don't get to see out here? How did all the Cleveland Golf MC staffers get fitted for their Drivers?
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    From what Ive heard you tell them which shaft you like, say Prolaunch Red. But then you tell them what more you need out of it, and they skew the numbers to meet your asking. But thats only what I have heard.

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    There isn't anything like an optimizer, so it's going to be centered around demoing and a launch monitor. The last Cleveland demo day I went had a number of drivers, some with aftermarket Miyazki's installed and a FlightScope. I watched a guy get fit for almost an hour that day.

    There is also this catalog http://www.clevelandgolf.com/pdfs/20...om_Catalog.pdf that has flex codes for other shafts based on how Miyazaki determines them.

    I think the point of the INTL Flex Code is to show the different launch characteristics numerically rather than just lableing something "stiff" or "regular".
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestTex View Post
    Been Pondering the Cleveland Classic since you can get them from $199 these days
    Question of how you find your flex code though.

    How does this work exactly? Do they have some kind of device like the Mizuno shaft optimizer that spits these flex code numbers out for you? Do you just hit every shaft under the sun till you get the best results and that's your flex code? I hear about the "fitting" Cleveland can do for you, yet I have never seen one done, and the last time the Cleveland Rep out this way had a demo day all he had was a bunch of different drivers to hit. No fitting cart, no interchangeable shafts or heads.

    Is there some kind of fitting system that I just don't get to see out here? How did all the Cleveland Golf MC staffers get fitted for their Drivers?

    Check out the Custom Shaft options PDF on Cleveland's website. It will show the flex code for all the shafts they offer and graphs to show you stiffness vs. launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howzat View Post
    Check out the Custom Shaft options PDF on Cleveland's website. It will show the flex code for all the shafts they offer and graphs to show you stiffness vs. launch.
    Yes I see that, but the last thing I want to do is guesstimate what shaft I "think" is gonna be good for my game again, been there, done that, tired of it. I thought a YSQ in an Adams 9032 head would be a good combo for me. I go on a monitor after a while of playing it and find out in this low spin head I'm pulling 4000 spin rate. Guess I'm a bad guesser.
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    Tim Gillis at Miyazaki can be a big help, WestTex. Email or call them and he usually is the one that answers. He might be able to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    There isn't anything like an optimizer, so it's going to be centered around demoing and a launch monitor. The last Cleveland demo day I went had a number of drivers, some with aftermarket Miyazki's installed and a FlightScope. I watched a guy get fit for almost an hour that day.

    There is also this catalog http://www.clevelandgolf.com/pdfs/20...om_Catalog.pdf that has flex codes for other shafts based on how Miyazaki determines them.

    I think the point of the INTL Flex Code is to show the different launch characteristics numerically rather than just lableing something "stiff" or "regular".
    Could they tell the guy who was getting fit, " Well b/c of your swing type, you are going to need something around a 6655." Or do they go " The spin and launch numbers look good, the shaft your hitting is coded at 6655."

    If its the 1st one, that's pretty cool. If it's the 2nd that's fine since it's no different than what I'm use too. They just can't give you all the options to demo since they don't have interchangeable heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestTex View Post
    Could they tell the guy who was getting fit, " Well b/c of your swing type, you are going to need something around a 6655." Or do they go " The spin and launch numbers look good, the shaft your hitting is coded at 6655."

    If its the 1st one, that's pretty cool. If it's the 2nd that's fine since it's no different than what I'm use too. They just can't give you all the options to demo since they don't have interchangeable heads.
    I think it could go both ways. By looking at other shafts and the numbers or results you get from them Tim could probably recommend some things that might help. Honestly, there are people on the site here that could do the same. I'm not really one of them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestTex View Post
    Could they tell the guy who was getting fit, " Well b/c of your swing type, you are going to need something around a 6655." Or do they go " The spin and launch numbers look good, the shaft your hitting is coded at 6655."

    If its the 1st one, that's pretty cool. If it's the 2nd that's fine since it's no different than what I'm use too. They just can't give you all the options to demo since they don't have interchangeable heads.
    This is exactly my question. I thought there was going to be Miyazaki chart that would cross reference your current shaft to one of theirs, or something like that. I like my shaft, but would go Miyazaki in a second if they could tell me it was the 'same'.


    edit: I think that pdf answered my question
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    There is a pretty good list in the PDF I linked, T0AD.
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    Get some numbers with a stock classic and call them and tell the fitters what you are looking for they can give some really suggestions.
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    It's really no different than any other fitting. Launch monitor use, shaft options in heads and finding the right balance.
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