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Thread: Cleveland 588 RTX CB Wedges Review - Forum Testing

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    I was able to get out this afternoon after work to hit some shots at the local course.

    Overall Initial impression

    The RTX CB is definitely a great looking wedge. I really like the black pearl finish and along with the milled face does not distract at address. I can really tell the difference with the overall weight distribution of the club compared to my previous RBZ 55* wedge. I felt more confidence with at address because I felt the extra weight would allow me to better get through the turf without as may mishits. Confidence is a great thing and this club was making me feel positive the entire time I was out there.

    My practice today was around 40 shots. I started a couple of steps off the green and hit to the target in the middle of the green. I gave myself 10 shots and then moved a couple of more steps back, another 10 shots, repeat. My basic thought pattern at each station was to try put the first one out as a marker and hit the next 9 closer. In reality I was just looking for a nice cluster and to work at eliminating the outliers (chunks, skulls) that I have often ended up with in the past. I have not been a big wedge practice player in the past so I try to do something that gave me feedback and keep my mind on my goal. After reading some of the wedge practice threads this seemed like a good place to start for me.

    Around the green, the wedge showed great versatility. I have had a hard time in the past trusting my higher lofted clubs. Today was different. After hitting a few shots all over the green trying to get the feel of the club I was really able to start putting shots where I wanted and they STOPPED! I actually had to adjust my power on shots because the ball was stopping in places I am not used to. As most others have said the spin produced from this club is a sight to see. Most times I need to play for the run out but now I was hitting shots that were checking up with minimal roll out. It will be an adjustment but I feel better hitting shots this way then shots that look nice only to run off the back side of the green. I did not get a great deal of backspin as others but I think the more confidence and course/practice range time I get with the club I will start to see the results others have described.

    As I was going on I started working on getting the ball higher and letting it land and stop. The turf interaction was nice and I felt the extra weight allowed me to get through the shot. Many times I have had my previous wedges catch the turf with the leading edge causing the ball to come up short, but the addition weight in the shaft and club head made the shots easier to hit. The sound produced was a clear click when hit right, not overly loud but did make a note of it. As others have said there is some adjustment period with this club. Getting the ball in the right position did take some playing around with. Overall in my limited time I am extremely please with the initial interaction/results with the club. It is by no means a miracle cure but I hit my wedge better today then I did all summer. There were still some god awful shots, but that is more the Indian than the arrow and I hope with practice the Indian can match the skill the arrow has inside it.

    I want to get out to the range or play 18 this week to see the wedge in action in different positions from 100 yards and in. I am really interested to see the club in action from the sand. I hope Cleveland can help out my bunker play and based upon my initial feel of the club I have high hopes.
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    Wedges: RBZ PW, AW, 588 RTX CB 56*
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    Currently testing the 588 RTX CB 56* wedge.

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    So, my gorgeous looking comments earlier may be an understatement. I really do think the finish has improved since the last time I have a black pearl wedge from Cleveland. Also, the cavity truly is reminiscent of the CG14's I liked so much, this excites me. Going to AT LEAST make some range time happen today.
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    Nice Jman! This thread is making me ponder wedges...heavily.

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    Nice looking pics jman!
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    Jman, those pics are phenomenal!

    I will have my RTX on the course tomorrow! Cant wait to put it to work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Eagle View Post
    Jman, those pics are phenomenal!

    I will have my RTX on the course tomorrow! Cant wait to put it to work!
    I'm going to try my damndest to at least get to the range today. I'm curious!


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    Nice pics Jman, I am loving everything I am seeing and hearing about these wedges. No doubt they are amazing! Hope you make it out to the range so we can hear some more thoughts on them.
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    588 RTX initial testing
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    Low 70’s and breezy
    Firm fast greens and 15-20 mph wind

    Yesterday I was able to get out for my first run with the 56* RTX wedge. For some silly reason the range was closed so instead I spent about an hour on one of the practice greens hitting greenside shots. Since we have entered dry season down this way the greens have really began to firm up, with that comes faster speeds as well. The speed is easier to get used to but the increased firmness of the greens can really affect how you play certain shots.

    The thing that really jumped at me initially was the lack of control I had around the green with the wedge. The contact was fine but the spin just wasn’t there for me, now I understand that I won’t generate tons of spin on short shots but I was seeing very little check on impact. Normally I’ll see a very grabby impact before the ball releases a little, yesterday that wasn’t the case. The ball would land and seemingly scoot away quickly, which made it very difficult to control distances. This was the case on a variety of shots, a low shot that you expect to grab and release or a higher ball that you would expect to settle after landing. Everything just took off, a very exasperating first practice session.

    As far as the club interacted with the ground I did not see any troubles from any type of lie. I was able to find some thicker bermuda in a low area to hit a few shots from. The club got through the grass just fine, just like the wedges I’m used to. I also found a spot a very tightly mown area and hit a few shots from there, the club actually excelled here. From that type of lie I always play the play the ball down, meaning I hit it low and get it rolling asap instead of trying to elevate the ball, which for me brings the dreaded bladed wedge into play.

    Out on the course I didn’t use the club much, which is both good and bad. I left my other wedges in the truck so any wedge shot I had to hit would be with the RTX, good theory but it didn’t pay off. My first shot on the course was an awkward distance shot to a back pin location. I had a bunker fronting the green and death was long, 87 yards from a fairway lie. The ball cleared the bunker but for some reason released about 15’ to there. I can’t explain the release which will become even more confusing later.




    On the next hole I came up short of the green after my shot from a fairway bunker came up about 5 yards short. The green was uphill going away from me so I got a little aggressive here and tried to carry the ball a little closer to the hole in an attempt to save par with a 1 putt. Yet again, no check. The ball hit and released uphill. At this point I’m entirely confused, I’m not a person who struggles with imparting spin around the greens but it wasn’t happening yesterday.

    On #8 I bailed out of a PW and came up a little short and left of the green, the ball came to rest in some thicker Bermuda but was sitting up nicely. Perfect spot to play a high soft shot right? No. It’s not often that I hit shots perfect but that one was dead solid perfect, beautiful arcing lob right at the pin. Hits and releases 10-12’ to the back of the green…mass confusion sets in. I don’t know why the ball didn’t settle soon after impact; it should have at most rolled out 5’ since I landed it on the flat of the green. Even my playing partners couldn’t believe the release on that shot.

    On the back 9 I hit more greens but I did have 3 more shots with the 56*, one of which was a shot to remember. Coming down #16 I yanked my drive left and had to layup short with a 7 wood. 67 yard to the pin which was in the middle, dunked it! Not sure what the ball did all I saw I was a bounce and it drop in the cup for a miracle birdie.

    In closing I’m a little confused about this wedge, after playing the 588 for several months I’ve become very confident in my short game but yesterday I could not get the short stuff figured out with this wedge. I’ve not read much of the other reviews in this thread yet as I didn’t want to be predisposed, hopefully I’m the only one that struggled a bit so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thainer21 View Post
    Thanks guys. Canio as for the full shots, others have moved the ball back. I'm not gonna do that because it leaves me susceptible to thins and erratic face angles. I'm gonna just focus on getting my weight forward and narrowing my stance. That way none of my mechanics change.
    Aha! The narrow stance for more control! I've done this with other clubs to get more control. It'll be interesting to read more of your adventures this way.
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    Hmmm that definitely is confusing. It will be interesting to see if that is what you continue to see. Is this a course you play regularly that you normally see better grab on the greens? I know around Indiana some greens will play completely different than some others. I don't get much check up at all on my home course but on another nearby course I can get it to stop pretty quick
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    Fixing to get my RTX on!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    Fixing to get my RTX on!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    Fixing to get my RTX on!


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    Nice pictures Jman and look forward to your thoughts dude.

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    Some great pics and thoughts in here fellas, these wedges are stunning!!! First time I have seen in hand pics since I have been so busy lately.
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