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Tour Angle 144 Review

| November 23, 2011 | 34 Comments

Earlier this year, THP had a chance to review a product called the Swingpact and it was judged to be a well-designed training aid by our staff writer, Todd H. Since that time, the inventor of the product has re-designed and renamed it as the Tour Angle 144 and he asked that THP take another look at it. As part of this review, I took time to get some information from the inventor, David Kardos, to share with our readers.

THP: Can you give a little history on this product?

David Kardos: I invented the Swingpact a few years ago (when I was desperate to shave strokes off my game. I am an engineer, and was always analyzing the golf swing), and it started with my discovery that the best tour players shared certain swing and body position characteristics. Steve Bosdosh is a local Top 100 instructor who worked with me on the Swingpact, and together we all made some improvements to it and re-named it the Tour Angle 144.

THP: What changes did you make?

David Kardos: The improvements over the Swingpact included: increasing the length of the (red) arm, making the arm a rigid piece and changing the covering to silicone to improve the tactile feedback, manufacturing from a stronger composite plastic (since we are offering a lifetime guarantee), and developing a golf training DVD with Steve Bosdosh.

THP: What was your goal when you invented the Tour Angle 144?

David Kardos: When I designed the TourAngle144, my goal was to make an ideal golf swing trainer. Part of this was to make it so that you could very quickly attach it to your club and use it. This is why the TA 144 is secured with hand pressure alone. In my experience, there is no way I am going to pull out a training aid on the course if it takes more than a split second to setup. Also, it had to be small, and I had to be able to take a normal swing with it. Part of my problem with training aids was that when you use them, you are not taking a normal feeling swing, so you are not truly practicing “your” swing. The TA 144 does not interfere with you hitting your normal shot. I also wanted to make it so you could use it with any club, could choke up on your club so you could practice every possible golf shot (sand shots, chip shots, etc), and also wanted to make it very inexpensive so everyone could buy it without thinking twice. After 3 years of development and dozens of prototypes, I finally got there.

THP: Can you explain how this should help amateur golfers simplify their set up and swing?

David Kardos: What I discovered is that the best tour players achieved a consistent shaft-to-forearm angle for every club they swung, from driver to wedge. The only thing they changed was the spine angle. Basically they bend more from the hips for the shorter or longer clubs, but maintained the club to arm to body angle. The TA 144 sets the angle (144 degrees, which is the average angle that male PGA pros hit), so all you have to do is bend from the hips and you are executing one basic golf swing. The Pros do this and have eliminated unnecessary swing variables from their arsenal of swings, and are taking one basic swing, versus the average amateur whose shaft-to-forearm changes greatly from club to club, and therefore are trying to master 12 different swings. If you were to use the TA 144 consistently for practice over the course of a season, I believe that your body would learn the new positions, and you would simplify your golf swing, and most certainly become a much better golfer.

Testing
The Tour Angle 144 is pretty simple looking at first glance, though I wasn’t sure exactly what to do with it at first. Fortunately, the included DVD and a little instruction sheet give a very simple explanation of how to use the product. Simply stated, you place the TA 144 in between the middle and ring finger, with the red arm pointing towards your body. You place the grip of the club into the recessed holder and grip the club like you normally would. At this point, the red arm should touch the inside of your forearm when you stand at address. From here, you can take your stance. As David mentioned, it does indeed allow you forget some of the variables in your set up and it feels pretty natural to swing with it in your hands.

Here are a couple videos I made using the product. One is with a 6 iron and the other with a driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QvJ6XpqyuHE#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyKdeEMZwqA&feature=player_embedded

I did find the Tour Angle 144 useful in reinforcing a good set-up posture and it was valuable for ensuring a ‘one-piece’ takeaway. Aside from the actual training aid itself, I really felt like the DVD with Top 100 instructor Steve Bosdosh was a great addition. It adds a great deal of value to the training aid; not only for the instruction on how to use the product, but for some valuable swing tips. In all, you have a pretty nice package and it’s one that I think people looking for some consistency – both in their set up and takeaway – could benefit from. For more information, please head over to www.tourangle144.com. This item sells for $29.95 with free shipping, which is a good value in my opinion. As always, thanks for reading and best of luck on the course this year.

Ryan H.

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Editor and writer Ryan Hawk lives in northwestern Illinois with his fiance and son. He's been a writer for The Hackers Paradise for two years and has been involved with a number of THP events.

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  1. Cookie says:

    I liked seeing the intent of the product from the inventor. Ryan – thanks for taking the time to review and I know it’s a long term process to determine if this makes permanent changes in your swing and promotes the one piece takeaway.

    Sounds like for less than $30 shipped it is not just another gimmick but actually does what it is intended to do, and I think the key would be repetitive use of the device.

  2. Coolbreeze says:

    Very nice review Hawk, this one has me interested and I think when it comes out in lefty I might give it a shot.

  3. DawgDaddy says:

    Very good review Ryan, I was a purchaser of the original Swingpact, and can attest to the value of using this training aid. I wish I had the video you mention, but I don’t think I will purchase the TA144 just to receive the video.

  4. tadashi70 says:

    Like the added videos Ryan. Will this aid work with any type of grip or does it promote a proper grip?

  5. Ryan H. says:

    @tadashi – It worked well with my standard grip. The DVD recommends a little strong grip, but it’s not required to use the product. Their was quite a bit of talk about grip in the DVD that some people could find pretty useful.

  6. yorkem says:

    Nice write up Hawk. If they come out with a lefty version I may have to give this one a try.

  7. 9-Iron Man says:

    Solid review as always Ryan. The videos are always a great touch. $30 with free shipping sure does seem like a good deal. I just might have to try this out.

  8. Puttin4Bird says:

    Nice review Hawk, it liked the added touch of the videos and the interview with the inventor. So many swing flaws start right at the setup and takeaway and it sounds like this can really help be sure you’re off to a good start with the swing. Thanks for the review, well done.

  9. ghsace says:

    Nice write up and review Hawk. I really like the idea of this, much more than some other training aids. I would absolutely try this out.

  10. damaikis says:

    Nice review Ryan! This little tool really seems like it could work well and help a lot of people. I hope more players see that and use this to help their golf game! I really hope it comes out in lefty soon.

  11. TripleBogieTim says:

    Nice job Ryan! I have looked at this before since my swing fault is the OTT and they claim that this will provide instant feedback when you start to swing OTT. I’ll have to grab one of these.

  12. d_in_la says:

    Great review Hawks. There is a simplicity to this training aid I really appreciate. the videos were very illustrative of the product, thanks!

  13. SW says:

    Thorough review Ryan, the video was a great addition to the review. Glad the designer took the iniative to redesign his product and make it better.

  14. golf4life says:

    Nice review Hawk! The videos were very helpful to visualize how to use the device. I think the concepts are sound and this could really help with setup and takeaway.

  15. lee hardin says:

    i used the tour angle 144 and liked it very much. i thought it could help me, but it broke in the middle
    of my swing and i cannot get it replaced. i had used it for 2 or 3 weeks. a product should last better
    than that. if any one out there can help me. please do. i would hate to tell my story.

  16. Ryan H. says:

    It seemed extremely sturdy to me, Lee. I’d suggest contacting the company. They have been pretty responsive from my experience.

  17. Griff says:

    I have the Swingpact and it has helped me out quite a bit. I notice my spine angle is much straighter at address. Not sure if I need the newer version. Great review btw. This aid could help everyone.

  18. TheDue says:

    Pretty interesting little devise here hawk. I’m thinking this might go beyond just helping with position and correct a few grip and general swing flaws as well. Thanks for the information.

  19. Dirtydawg67 says:

    Great review Hawk. I love the videos you added. I may have to give the TA 144 a try.

  20. Hanks says:

    Solid review Hawk. I’ve been using the original version and it helps quite a bit with my set up. I’m glad to see the inventor refresh the design and improve upon it.

  21. SeeMoreGuy says:

    Very nice review Hawk. May have to consider grabbing one.

  22. Is this product available for ladies ! It looks like a perfect help for swing correction. Maybe it requires tweaking for us !

  23. Is the product available for ladies ??

  24. Chunkylover77 says:

    Felicity the homepage for this product has a picture of a lady using it if that is helpful. I think it’s a Unisex product

  25. Gary says:

    I’m afraid to say it hasn’t given you a good swing. No offense, but that is clear to see from the videos. On this evidence, i won’t be buying this training aid.

  26. baddog says:

    Was interested to see if this thing could actually work…having used a similar tool called the Swingyde in the past. After looking at the video, it appears you have saved me $29. It might help in your address position, but doesn’t appear to do a thing for the swing as seen in your over the top move. Thanks much.

  27. Ryan H says:

    Thanks for the little digs, guys. Training aids won’t ever replace lessons. Of course, I didn’t make claims that it gave me a good swing or helped me with the OTT move, so that’s beside the point.

  28. Eddie B says:

    To Lee Hardin, I think there is a lifetime guarantee. I haven’t read the description of the guarantee, but if the TA144 broke during normal use I would request a replacement.

    For those of you who say that it doesn’t help one develop a good swing, as you watch tour players you will notice they are all different in their swing but, the most important thing is getting the club face square at impact. On the Golf Chanel they just analyzied Bubba Watson with the driver, both instructors agreed that there’s nothing in Bubba’s swing that they would teach. They said Bubba breaks all the rules but gets the club head back to square at impact. I purchased the TA 144, after I try it I’ll post my results.

  29. Eddie B says:

    I think there is a lifetime guarantee. I haven’t read the description of the guarantee, but if the TA144 broke during normal use I would request a replacement.

    For those of you who say that it doesn’t help one develop a good swing, as you watch tour players you will notice they are all different in their swing but, the most important thing is getting the club face square at impact. On the Golf Chanel they just analyzied Bubba Watson with the driver, both instructors agreed that there’s nothing in Bubba’s swing that they would teach. They said Bubba breaks all the rules but gets the club head back to square at impact. I purchased the TA 144, after I try it I’ll post my results.

  30. MikeD says:

    I have clubs that are more upright (Ping Maroon)…Just wonder how that effects the 144 angle?

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  32. Mark says:

    They forgot to mention that the swingpact was 150 degrees, but then it was changed to 144 degrees when it was rebranded as the tour angle. Did the average forearm to shaft angle of the tour pros change? Doesnt sound right. Just got the ta144 and my hands feel very low when using it… Any suggestions?

  33. k5thbeatle says:

    One thing that is a bit confusing with this product. What does one do if when swinging one does indeed cast and the red arm touches before impact? It never really says what to do to correct this? Just keep swinging until it doesn’t???

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