The celebration of twenty years of Diamana continues, with Mitsubishi Golf unveiling the second part to the all-new version of the legendary lineup. It makes sense that the brand came with the WB (White Board) first, as it has long been the first design people think of when they hear “Diamana”, but as soon as it was released, the clamoring for the BB was immediate. Previously, we were able to give a full review on the Diamana WB (here: Mitsubishi Diamana WB Shaft Review – The Hackers Paradise) and now, on the day the 2024 Diamana BB is officially released, we are not only bringing you all the details, but also one of the first full reviews in all of golf.

Quick Take – 2024 Diamana BB
The Blue Board is back. As with the WB, when it comes to the BB, Mitsubishi has managed to up the ante by taking the same legendary profile that is known and loved, but amplify it with new materials and technologies. On the course, the BB is exactly what you would expect, fluid without being loose, and lives up to the mid-mid profile designation.
2024 Mitsubishi Diamana BB – Design
For 20 years now, Diamana has been the crown jewel of Mitsubishi Golf. When it comes to performance and feel, the company truly believes they are at the top of the game with this family of shafts. However, they also want it known that although the designations of these new Diamana shafts is the same historically with WB being “low-low” and this BB being “mid-mid”, this is not just a rehashed release. No, this is taking the DNA of the “boards” and modernizing it.

In this 6th generation BB, new meets classic, beginning with the matte black finish and retro cosmetics, including the illustrious “flower band” below the handle. Just as we said about the WB, the BB is one of the best looking driver shafts we have seen in some time, it’s clean but also flashes in the right ways. Plus, there is something cool about being able to immediately tell visually what someone is playing, and the flower band with classic blue backed Diamana logo absolutely brings that recognition to this release.

The new Diamana BB profile is classified by Mitsubishi as Medium+ under the hands and mid-section, then Medium in the tip section, and is also being offered in the traditional 53/63/73/83 weight categories. This leans into the smooth feel which the BB is historically known for. However, according to the company, that has been taken up a notch via improved materials and processes.
| SHAFT | FLEX | WEIGHT | TORQUE | KICK |
| Diamana BB 43 | R2 | 44 | 5.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 43 | R | 45 | 5.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 43 | SR | 47 | 5.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 43 | S | 48 | 5.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 43 | X | 49 | 5.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 53 | R | 50 | 4.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 53 | SR | 52 | 4.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 53 | S | 54 | 4.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 53 | X | 55 | 4.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 53 | TX | 56 | 4.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 63 | R | 60 | 3.2 | MID |
| Diamana BB 63 | SR | 61 | 3.2 | MID |
| Diamana BB 63 | S | 61 | 3.2 | MID |
| Diamana BB 63 | X | 62 | 3.2 | MID |
| Diamana BB 63 | TX | 62 | 3.1 | MID |
| Diamana BB 73 | S | 70 | 2.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 73 | X | 71 | 2.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 73 | TX | 72 | 2.9 | MID |
| Diamana BB 83 | S | 80 | 2.8 | MID |
| Diamana BB 83 | X | 81 | 2.8 | MID |
| Diamana BB 83 | TX | 81 | 2.8 | MID |
As with the WB, the BB is implementing “Xlink Tech” which is another Mitsubishi developed resin system. By reducing the amount of resin necessary in creating a composite shaft, they are able to use more carbon fiber volume. That increase not only means more feel, but also more strength and durability. Combined with that, the 6th generation Diamana’s also use high-modulus 46-ton angle plies to lower torque and increase stability as well as super high-modulus 80-ton Dialead Pitch Fiber in the butt section of the shaft for better energy transfer.
In the end, Mitsubishi believes they have created a better Blue Board which is smoother than ever, but with a new level of stability and downrange consistency.
2024 Mitsubishi Diamana BB – Performance
As mentioned, not only are we bringing all the details for the BB release up above, but THP was also able to get the new design in hand and put it to the test. More than that, four of our community members were able to as well, and they will be bringing their long-term feedback to the THP forum, so be sure to keep an eye out for that.

This review was done with the Diamana BB in 73X paired with the Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond head at 9.0 standard. Having also done our previous review on the WB, there were many curiosities entering into this, specifically because once upon a time the Blue Board was a go-to for me, specifically in a lower spinning driver head like what this testing was done in.

The standout aspect immediately here was that classic BB ‘feel’, which personally I prefer to use the term flow. Throughout each swing, there is a flow present which absolutely differentiates it from the WB. Interestingly when it comes to that comparison, however, is that this 6th Generation WB is strikingly smooth, more than any previous iteration I had swung. Well, the same can be said about the new BB. Regardless of how I went at the ball, that feel/flow was present, be it high-speed, mid, or even user error driven swings.

While feel is great, it is the flight, spin, and dispersion characteristics which everyone cares about the most. Both on the course as well as on the launch monitor, the 73X BB proved to be every bit the mid-launch shaft it claims for this reviewer. When it comes to the data you will see below (which comes from a set of ten swings with the two biggest misses thrown out), it checks the boxes. Now, some may see the launch and spin as a bit on the lower side to be called mid-mid, but keep in mind this was with a 73 version of the shaft.
| Diamana BB 73X in Paradym Ai Smoke TD 9.0 STD | |
| BALL SPEED | 162 |
| LAUNCH ANGLE | 14.1 |
| SPIN | 2590 |
| PEAK HEIGHT | 33 |
| CARRY | 274 |
| TOTAL | 300 |
| OFFLINE | 9Y R |
What is the conclusion? This is going to be a very popular, and very versatile, shaft for Mitsubishi. While this review was done in a driver, it is obvious that there are ample fairway wood applications possible as well. In fact, when you combine the BB with the WB, the fitting possibilities are significant. Smooth, reactive, accurate, and fantastic looking, the 6th version of the Blue Board lives up to the hype.
The Details – 2024 Diamana BB
Mitsubishi is releasing the new Diamana Blue Board worldwide beginning today through fitting centers and custom order options across the world. While nostalgia alone does wonders, it is only when a brand takes that and molds it with modern performance that you strike onto something more, and that certainly appears to be just what is happening with Diamana right now. The price point for the BB will be set at $400.00.
For more information, head over to their website at www.mitsubishigolf.com.




I’m doing some digging on the stats with the Diamana BB vs the Diamana WB this morning. Here’s what I’ve found to go with my feeling and eyeball tests after the second round yesterday.
These are the stats I have off the tee. This is the Diamana BB in a Cobra Darkspeed X head at 9* standard setting.
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What jumps out to me first is the miss right. I was noticing that the feel I was having is the shaft being a bit active and my body wanting to adjust mid swing to that. I went to an X flex to try and help pull that right miss in a little bit. This has worked more for me with the Diamana WB which you can find more on [URL=’https://www.thehackersparadise.com/forum/index.php?threads/mitsubishi-diamana-wb-shaft-review.8963074/’]here[/URL]. Now when I say that the shaft “feels active”, it’s not something that you would waggle test and say is whippy. It’s just something that I can feel because of my swing deficiencies and over active thinking. It’s also not a bad thing at all. If you like a shaft that you can feel through the swing, this feels fantastic!
The second thing I notice is the distance. The ball flight that I have seen on the less than optimal swings, which if we’re being honest happen far more often than the optimal ones, is a much higher spinning shot and I do see a little ballooning. Again, this is 100% me and my swing issues. I’ve always battled high spin off the driver because of a slightly negative AoA and over the top move. Looking at the P-Avg of 282 and Avg of 254, I’m seeing slightly lower numbers than my year to date results (288 and 261 respectively). I was feeling as though I’m a touch shorter with this shaft and that is confirmed. Now on positive note, although I am seeing the higher spin and loss of distance, I didn’t feel as though I was seeing it fly as far offline. That was confirmed with the avg fairway miss of 19 yards which is less than the 23 yards I was seeing with lower launch and lower spin shafts previously.
In one of the rounds I played with the WB, I let a friend of mine use the BB in his Cobra LTDx set at 9* draw setting. He’s currently playing Ventus TR Blue 6s in that driver so this was a good comparison. He plays for his slice and just embraces the fact that he’s going to start it in the left rough and end up right half of the fairway. Well when he put the BB in the driver, he instantly saw a straighter ball flight and gained at least 20 yards (his normal tee shot is 215-220 and he was consistently out at 240-250). I was tracking him on the card after about the 4th hole because I was pretty surprised at the difference. He only had 1 ball miss right all round. He missed 4 left (which never happens) and hit 6 fairways. The ball flight was down from his normal flight but carrying more for sure. I asked him what he felt was a difference from his normal shaft and he said, “It felt really easy to swing this shaft. I didn’t feel like I had to do anything to get it to really kick and put a hurt on the ball. It just felt so smooth and easy to hit.”
I’m looking forward to the next round out with it because it’s definitely pushing me to control myself and my swing on the tee. I think there’s a lot more to unlock with it.
[QUOTE=”Jtubb17, post: 12479303, member: 68843″]
I’m doing some digging on the stats with the Diamana BB vs the Diamana WB this morning. Here’s what I’ve found to go with my feeling and eyeball tests after the second round yesterday.
These are the stats I have off the tee. This is the Diamana BB in a Cobra Darkspeed X head at 9* standard setting.
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What jumps out to me first is the miss right. I was noticing that the feel I was having is the shaft being a bit active and my body wanting to adjust mid swing to that. I went to an X flex to try and help pull that right miss in a little bit. This has worked more for me with the Diamana WB which you can find more on [URL=’https://www.thehackersparadise.com/forum/index.php?threads/mitsubishi-diamana-wb-shaft-review.8963074/’]here[/URL]. Now when I say that the shaft “feels active”, it’s not something that you would waggle test and say is whippy. It’s just something that I can feel because of my swing deficiencies and over active thinking. It’s also not a bad thing at all. If you like a shaft that you can feel through the swing, this feels fantastic!
The second thing I notice is the distance. The ball flight that I have seen on the less than optimal swings, which if we’re being honest happen far more often than the optimal ones, is a much higher spinning shot and I do see a little ballooning. Again, this is 100% me and my swing issues. I’ve always battled high spin off the driver because of a slightly negative AoA and over the top move. Looking at the P-Avg of 282 and Avg of 254, I’m seeing slightly lower numbers than my year to date results (288 and 261 respectively). I was feeling as though I’m a touch shorter with this shaft and that is confirmed. Now on positive note, although I am seeing the higher spin and loss of distance, I didn’t feel as though I was seeing it fly as far offline. That was confirmed with the avg fairway miss of 19 yards which is less than the 23 yards I was seeing with lower launch and lower spin shafts previously.
In one of the rounds I played with the WB, I let a friend of mine use the BB in his Cobra LTDx set at 9* draw setting. He’s currently playing Ventus TR Blue 6s in that driver so this was a good comparison. He plays for his slice and just embraces the fact that he’s going to start it in the left rough and end up right half of the fairway. Well when he put the BB in the driver, he instantly saw a straighter ball flight and gained at least 20 yards (his normal tee shot is 215-220 and he was consistently out at 240-250). I was tracking him on the card after about the 4th hole because I was pretty surprised at the difference. He only had 1 ball miss right all round. He missed 4 left (which never happens) and hit 6 fairways. The ball flight was down from his normal flight but carrying more for sure. I asked him what he felt was a difference from his normal shaft and he said, “It felt really easy to swing this shaft. I didn’t feel like I had to do anything to get it to really kick and put a hurt on the ball. It just felt so smooth and easy to hit.”
I’m looking forward to the next round out with it because it’s definitely pushing me to control myself and my swing on the tee. I think there’s a lot more to unlock with it.
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Good report and nice that your buddy found some nice improvements with it.
I offered it up to a buddy to try and he declined as he said he has enough going on in his head and swing with what he hits now (TM M4?? driver with a stock R flex shaft).
I do have another friend who for sure wants to try both shafts, but it’s been to hot to WANT to go to the range and he has been busy with his kids in town.
With all of the rain we had yesterday afternoon and night, I decided to put the Blue Board in the driver before I left for the course today to try to get a little extra carry distance on the sorry course. What I didn’t count on though was that the wind was up today with more rain blowing in about 1.5 hours ago so I think that probably negated any distance gains from longer carry with the higher ball flight and more spin probably not cutting through the wind as well as the slightly lower ball flight and decrease in spin of the GT.
The driver did perform quite well for me today though. Hit 7 of 11 fairways I hit driver on and 3 of the 4 misses were within 3 yards of the edge of the fairway. As I stated in one of my review posts for the GT, the fairways at my home course are quite narrow so 7 of 11 is a pretty strong showing for me. No low pull hooks or high flares to the right that were plaguing me when I first started using the BB so I feel like I have synced up my swing with the shaft quite nicely.
And the shaft continues to make me smile when I look down at it. The flower band around the top of the shaft is so awesome.
At our closing lunch of the Mitsubishi Experience, [USER=80601]@Mitsubishi Mark[/USER] said the Blue Board was made for someone like me. That was after we played 18 holes together earlier that day and he said my tempo was perfect for that shaft. I was honestly questioning his comments during my first couple of rounds with it but once I got my timing much better in tune with the shaft, I have not doubted his comments since. Like a lot of people with new equipment in their hands, I was likely initially trying to get too much out of the shaft instead of just swinging my swing. I now truly believe these shafts deliver effortless power and tight dispersion when swung within one’s self.
I hope to someday get the opportunity to hit the same BB 53 shaft in a SR or even S flex. While swinging too aggressively with the R flex in this shaft does not yield good results for me, I would like to experience a little stiffer flex in this shaft profile to see the results I am able to get with a little more aggressive swing.
Snuck out today for a quick afternoon range session. Man this shaft felt so freaking good on the range with no consequences. It was like a completely different shaft to me just swinging free. So smooth and a powerful kick.
Played 2 more rounds this weekend, 1 round in particular, I had the chance to swap shafts on multiple tee boxes (if you play in the afternoons, it’s pretty empty on the courses, I think people don’t want to play in the heat and/or possible rains!). Here were some observations (keep in mind, this is for my style):
1) The BB makes you slow your takeaway and requires a steady tempo. I tend to have quicker swing, averaging around 108mph and peaking at 114mph. Sometimes that is achieved thru an aggressive takeaway and the BB does not like that. The results were twofold: snap hook or cut/slice. When I did put a good hit on it, the distance was never there for me. If you’ve read any of the Mitsubishi Experience or live round update threads, my drives (on a good swing) go over 280, and sometimes over 300. None of my drives with the BB were past 260.
2) The feel: I can’t get past this. I need to have a connection with my clubs. I like to be able to feel the slightest mishits, the impact of solid shots, etc etc and for some reason, this shaft doesn’t give that to me. It’s not a complete disconnect, but I’m literally having a hard time feeling when I’m off center, or when I hit it solid, it doesn’t feel solid. This is a tough one to describe, I just don’t have the words to describe the connections I have with my clubs, so I apologize for not being able to convey it. Maybe I need to channel my inner Danielle Steele.
3) The looks: It’s no debate, this club is damned good looking. It gets a lot of attention from my friends when they see it. We ALL know that’s an important part of our club/shaft selection. It needs to look good at address (and I’m a logo up type of guy).
There will be more testing. The challenge to make this work is here and I want it to work out. The Vanquish that I received at Ballyhack….it doesn’t want it to work out. It LOVES my swing and keeps producing results. We’ll discuss that in another review 🙂 I’m headed to LA on Thursday morning and will have no golf until I get back next Tuesday, so there will be a little delay, but that may be good for my game. 🙂
Oh BB, I see you there.
I’ve taken some time off from this one for other testing but she stares at me every time I’m in the shop/#garagesim.
So, what to do?
My issue is the 70’s really might not be my jam anymore in driver, so that leaves 3w, or in my case, mini driver.
Thus, I’m going to cut this one down and put it in the 340 Ti this weekend, coming from the GT I’m concerned about hitting the mini even higher than I already do, but, I can loft that beast down. What I want, is the dispersion I’ve seen off both the new WB and BB, it’s been eye opening.
My BB is sitting there, waiting for me to take it out with the TB and do side-by-side comparisons.
Me, I am waiting for less heat and humidity and some spare time in the evening to get out there. It will happen!
The Diamana BB is going back in the driver for a couple rounds and range time this week. Going to see if it can kick the WB out of the bag for the trip to Denver in a couple weeks. I think that higher ball flight in that thin air could be fun
[QUOTE=”Jtubb17, post: 12501094, member: 68843″]
The Diamana BB is going back in the driver for a couple rounds and range time this week. Going to see if it can kick the WB out of the bag for the trip to Denver in a couple weeks. I think that higher ball flight in that thin air could be fun
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Bring both.
[QUOTE=”Browndog, post: 12501104, member: 63834″]
Bring both.
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Oh I will for sure.
I’m officially cutting the BB down for the mini driver today, hoping to get to swinging for some data later this afternoon with it!
Was able to get back out on the course with the BB the past 2 days after taking 11 days off from golf activities to let my scalp heal again.
Gone are the low pull hooks that plaqued me initially when getting used to this shaft. None of those today or yesterday so I think my timing with the shaft is pretty well down. I believe filling in the rest of the bag with lighter and more flexible shafts has certainly assisted with that. Hit the ball with driver quite well yesterday but had trouble finding the center of the club face today. What did amaze me today was the lack of dispersion that I saw from several toe strikes and a couple of heel strikes. Yes, there was some distance loss, but all were still very playable. I certainly cannot say that with some of the other head/shaft combos I have played in this same driver head.
One thing that did dawn on me today and yesterday was just how well I perceive, from my expereinces, that Mitsubishi classifies their shafts. The Blue Board is classified as a mid launch / mid spin shaft and the Diamana GT (the other shaft I received at the Experience) is classified as a low+ launch / low+ spin shaft. Although I do not have a launch monitor to measure any particulars regarding actual launch and spin numbers, I can definitely tell on the course that the BB produces a good bit higher ball flight and I can see that I get more rollout after touch down when using the GT. That is with using the same driver head in the same neutral setting with each of the shafts.
Back to the GT for the next few rounds since it has been a couple of weeks since I have played that shaft.
[QUOTE=”Sox_Fan, post: 12502871, member: 9583″]
Was able to get back out on the course with the BB the past 2 days after taking 11 days off from golf activities to let my scalp heal again.
Gone are the low pull hooks that plaqued me initially when getting used to this shaft. None of those today or yesterday so I think my timing with the shaft is pretty well down. I believe filling in the rest of the bag with lighter and more flexible shafts has certainly assisted with that. Hit the ball with driver quite well yesterday but had trouble finding the center of the club face today. What did amaze me today was the lack of dispersion that I saw from several toe strikes and a couple of heel strikes. Yes, there was some distance loss, but all were still very playable. I certainly cannot say that with some of the other head/shaft combos I have played in this same driver head.
One thing that did dawn on me today and yesterday was just how well I perceive, from my expereinces, that Mitsubishi classifies their shafts. The Blue Board is classified as a mid launch / mid spin shaft and the Diamana GT (the other shaft I received at the Experience) is classified as a low+ launch / low+ spin shaft. Although I do not have a launch monitor to measure any particulars regarding actual launch and spin numbers, I can definitely tell on the course that the BB produces a good bit higher ball flight and I can see that I get more rollout after touch down when using the GT. That is with using the same driver head in the same neutral setting with each of the shafts.
Back to the GT for the next few rounds since it has been a couple of weeks since I have played that shaft.
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This is a really good update Sox!
How is the feel for you? It’s sort of blown me away at times.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12503742, member: 1579″]
This is a really good update Sox!
How is the feel for you? It’s sort of blown me away at times.
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Oh, the feel is crazy smooth. The GT feels really smooth but the BB is on another level.
Testing the xcaliber phoenix in the 4-tx (45g cut weight) has me wondering about the blue board in the 43x or 53x. I was fit into a 65g tensei av blue. Could this be where the phoenix and tensei intersect?
[QUOTE=”Sox_Fan, post: 12503810, member: 9583″]
Oh, the feel is crazy smooth. The GT feels really smooth but the BB is on another level.
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That’s remained the big standout for me with the 73X, it absolutely lives up to the BB lineage, but with a WAY tighter down range dispersion for me. I’m going to move mine to the Mini to hit side by side with my 70X GT so I’m looking forward to seeing if I see more of what you have!
[QUOTE=”leftybob, post: 12503824, member: 77429″]
Testing the xcaliber phoenix in the 4-tx (45g cut weight) has me wondering about the blue board in the 43x or 53x. I was fit into a 65g tensei av blue. Could this be where the phoenix and tensei intersect?
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Hmm, yes and no? Hahaha
The Phoenix is just rigid/stout all the way through imo, the BB is much more responsive but you don’t have that feeling of having to work at it, or of losing dispersion.
It is one of the best examples I’ve hit in a minute of showing that feel and dispersion can function independently.
I’ve got a scheduled testing with my man at Club Champion at the end of next week (August 1st, possibly a couple of days before that). Going to hit the new TItleist Drivers….and going to get some SOLID data and differences between my LA Golf shaft, my Mitsu Vanquish and the BB. This will def be interesting to see hard numbers (my golf sim should be getting back together in a couple of weeks, so that’ll help too!). Stay tuned, bat fans. Same bat time, same bat channel.
[QUOTE=”G8rJimbo, post: 12503883, member: 62520″]
I’ve got a scheduled testing with my man at Club Champion at the end of next week (August 1st, possibly a couple of days before that). Going to hit the new TItleist Drivers….and going to get some SOLID data and differences between my LA Golf shaft, my Mitsu Vanquish and the BB. This will def be interesting to see hard numbers (my golf sim should be getting back together in a couple of weeks, so that’ll help too!). Stay tuned, bat fans. Same bat time, same bat channel.
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What are you seeing and experiencing so far though with the eyeball test?
Higher? Lower? Looser?
How does feel compare?
Confidence?
Tell me all the things. Hahaha
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12503865, member: 1579″]
Hmm, yes and no? Hahaha
The Phoenix is just rigid/stout all the way through imo, the BB is much more responsive but you don’t have that feeling of having to work at it, or of losing dispersion.
It is one of the best examples I’ve hit in a minute of showing that feel and dispersion can function independently.
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With intersect I was thinking get more “feel” without sacrificing dispersion or significantly going up in weight.
[QUOTE=”leftybob, post: 12503951, member: 77429″]
With intersect I was thinking get more “feel” without sacrificing dispersion or significantly going up in weight.
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I get it, I do think they’re not quite apples to apples in flight, it I get it.
More than that, there is definitely more high end material work done here that shows out when it comes to that blend of feel and stability imo.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12503862, member: 1579″]
That’s remained the big standout for me with the 73X, it absolutely lives up to the BB lineage, but with a WAY tighter down range dispersion for me. I’m going to move mine to the Mini to hit side by side with my 70X GT so I’m looking forward to seeing if I see more of what you have!
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You’re gonna make me throw a 73X BB in my ST-G 3-wood aren’t you? :ROFLMAO:
[QUOTE=”bsbmike5, post: 12503958, member: 8099″]
You’re gonna make me throw a 73X BB in my ST-G 3-wood aren’t you? :ROFLMAO:
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Hahahaha! No promises either way
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12503886, member: 1579″]
What are you seeing and experiencing so far though with the eyeball test?
Higher? Lower? Looser?
How does feel compare?
Confidence?
Tell me all the things. Hahaha
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Well, it’s the same as I’ve reported earlier is that the feel isn’t there. I’m getting good trajectory, but the ball spin must be out of this world because I’m not hitting my usual draw and I can’t even force a fade. If I try to fade it, it’s a horrible cut slice. it doesn’t feel as connected as the vanquish does so nothing seems to be working with it at all. I’m really curious to see the numbers and how they compare and if I could try to adjust my swing for it. Out of about 10 or 12 shots I’ll nail down the fairway , but when I think I’ve striped it, it’s at least 20 hours short from my drives the vanquish or my LA.
If it would stop raining in the afternoons. I’m definitely going to get more range time on the shaft between now and next week. Once again, I will emphasize that it is crazy. How much difference of shaft makes even if the specs are close to being the same.
[QUOTE=”G8rJimbo, post: 12504020, member: 62520″]
Well, it’s the same as I’ve reported earlier is that the feel isn’t there. I’m getting good trajectory, but the ball spin must be out of this world because I’m not hitting my usual draw and I can’t even force a fade. If I try to fade it, it’s a horrible cut slice. it doesn’t feel as connected as the vanquish does so nothing seems to be working with it at all. I’m really curious to see the numbers and how they compare and if I could try to adjust my swing for it. Out of about 10 or 12 shots I’ll nail down the fairway , but when I think I’ve striped it, it’s at least 20 hours short from my drives the vanquish or my LA.
If it would stop raining in the afternoons. I’m definitely going to get more range time on the shaft between now and next week. Once again, I will emphasize that it is crazy. How much difference of shaft makes even if the specs are close to being the same.
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All feedback is good feedback my guy, even if it’s repetitive, new eyes are always finding these threads!
It’s a pretty different animal from the Vanquish, so I’m not all that surprised with how comfortable you seemed to be with that setup.
Here’s to keeping on! ?
[QUOTE=”Jtubb17, post: 12479303, member: 68843″]
I’m doing some digging on the stats with the Diamana BB vs the Diamana WB this morning. Here’s what I’ve found to go with my feeling and eyeball tests after the second round yesterday.
These are the stats I have off the tee. This is the Diamana BB in a Cobra Darkspeed X head at 9* standard setting.
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What jumps out to me first is the miss right. I was noticing that the feel I was having is the shaft being a bit active and my body wanting to adjust mid swing to that. I went to an X flex to try and help pull that right miss in a little bit. This has worked more for me with the Diamana WB which you can find more on [URL=’https://www.thehackersparadise.com/forum/index.php?threads/mitsubishi-diamana-wb-shaft-review.8963074/’]here[/URL]. Now when I say that the shaft “feels active”, it’s not something that you would waggle test and say is whippy. It’s just something that I can feel because of my swing deficiencies and over active thinking. It’s also not a bad thing at all. If you like a shaft that you can feel through the swing, this feels fantastic!
The second thing I notice is the distance. The ball flight that I have seen on the less than optimal swings, which if we’re being honest happen far more often than the optimal ones, is a much higher spinning shot and I do see a little ballooning. Again, this is 100% me and my swing issues. I’ve always battled high spin off the driver because of a slightly negative AoA and over the top move. Looking at the P-Avg of 282 and Avg of 254, I’m seeing slightly lower numbers than my year to date results (288 and 261 respectively). I was feeling as though I’m a touch shorter with this shaft and that is confirmed. Now on positive note, although I am seeing the higher spin and loss of distance, I didn’t feel as though I was seeing it fly as far offline. That was confirmed with the avg fairway miss of 19 yards which is less than the 23 yards I was seeing with lower launch and lower spin shafts previously.
In one of the rounds I played with the WB, I let a friend of mine use the BB in his Cobra LTDx set at 9* draw setting. He’s currently playing Ventus TR Blue 6s in that driver so this was a good comparison. He plays for his slice and just embraces the fact that he’s going to start it in the left rough and end up right half of the fairway. Well when he put the BB in the driver, he instantly saw a straighter ball flight and gained at least 20 yards (his normal tee shot is 215-220 and he was consistently out at 240-250). I was tracking him on the card after about the 4th hole because I was pretty surprised at the difference. He only had 1 ball miss right all round. He missed 4 left (which never happens) and hit 6 fairways. The ball flight was down from his normal flight but carrying more for sure. I asked him what he felt was a difference from his normal shaft and he said, “It felt really easy to swing this shaft. I didn’t feel like I had to do anything to get it to really kick and put a hurt on the ball. It just felt so smooth and easy to hit.”
I’m looking forward to the next round out with it because it’s definitely pushing me to control myself and my swing on the tee. I think there’s a lot more to unlock with it.
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This seems like I need to source a bb to try in my AI smoke…. Hard ponder
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504025, member: 1579″]
All feedback is good feedback my guy, even if it’s repetitive, new eyes are always finding these threads!
It’s a pretty different animal from the Vanquish, so I’m not all that surprised with how comfortable you seemed to be with that setup.
Here’s to keeping on! ?
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I think my problem is, is that I see it as a challenge. So I’m determined to be able to hit the shaft but sooner than later I’m gonna have to face reality and realize that sometimes it’s just not meant to be lol. But if that’s the case, it’s OK, it’s definitely taught me some lessons about Shaff selection.
I will definitely post some more as soon as the weather let me get back out there.
[QUOTE=”G8rJimbo, post: 12504036, member: 62520″]
I think my problem is, is that I see it as a challenge. So I’m determined to be able to hit the shaft but sooner than later I’m gonna have to face reality and realize that sometimes it’s just not meant to be lol. But if that’s the case, it’s OK, it’s definitely taught me some lessons about Shaff selection.
I will definitely post some more as soon as the weather let me get back out there.
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It’s the beauty of all this, sometimes things fit, sometimes they don’t, but there’s still a story there that can be told!
Look forward to it!
My 73X is officially tip trimmed and cut down to length for the mini
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[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504287, member: 1579″]
My 73X is officially tip trimmed and cut down to length for the mini
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I’m going to be watching this closely. I have such a big gap between my driver and 2H and was thinking mini driver might be good with the BB in it.
[QUOTE=”Jtubb17, post: 12504307, member: 68843″]
I’m going to be watching this closely. I have such a big gap between my driver and 2H and was thinking mini driver might be good with the BB in it.
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I adore the mini, but it’s definitely a niche club. You give up versatility for a second tee club essentially.
Hopefully I’m going to get some swings on this in the 340 Mini today now that it’s built and cured. I did tip it to manufacturers recommendations since it is essentially a big 3w.
Will be interesting to hit it next to the Diamana GT I’ve been using in it
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504891, member: 1579″]
Hopefully I’m going to get some swings on this in the 340 Mini today now that it’s built and cured. I did tip it to manufacturers recommendations since it is essentially a big 3w.
Will be interesting to hit it next to the Diamana GT I’ve been using in it
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Any hopes/wishes on your mind with this setup?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12504893, member: 1193″]
Any hopes/wishes on your mind with this setup?
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Nothing specific, shockingly. I just know my days with 70+ class driver shafts in drivers is over, and I wanted to get to work with this 73X more for feedbacks sake.
So, Mini it was.
What is really intersting is that shaft with no adapter or grip was only 63g when I tipped it and butt trimmed it to play 43.5 in the mini. I didn’t expect that at all. Though with it being only 71g raw, I guess I should have!
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504906, member: 1579″]
Nothing specific, shockingly. I just know my days with 70+ class driver shafts in drivers is over, and I wanted to get to work with this 73X more for feedbacks sake.
So, Mini it was.
What is really intersting is that shaft with no adapter or grip was only 63g when I tipped it and butt trimmed it to play 43.5 in the mini. I didn’t expect that at all. Though with it being only 71g raw, I guess I should have!
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Definitely a good way to utilize a heavier shaft like that. I am really curious what the spin numbers end up looking like for you.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12504910, member: 1193″]
Definitely a good way to utilize a heavier shaft like that. I am really curious what the spin numbers end up looking like for you.
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I am too, it’s what I’m most curious about. I’m hoping it’s lower than I’m predicting in my head, but we shall see!
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504924, member: 1579″]
I am too, it’s what I’m most curious about. I’m hoping it’s lower than I’m predicting in my head, but we shall see!
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What sort of ratio are you expecting when it comes to tee/turf?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12504934, member: 1193″]
What sort of ratio are you expecting when it comes to tee/turf?
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99/1
I’m one, that if I have to hit 3w into a par 5 green, I’m laying up. It’s just not worth it to me, plus, I want a wedge in my hand.
That said I’m not afraid to hit it off the deck, it’s sort of one of my party tricks ?
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12504944, member: 1579″]
99/1
I’m one, that if I have to hit 3w into a par 5 green, I’m laying up. It’s just not worth it to me, plus, I want a wedge in my hand.
That said I’m not afraid to hit it off the deck, it’s sort of one of my party tricks ?
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I hear that lol
Well, more feedback coming up. Got invited to a 9 hole scramble late afternoon, so I thought I’d get there a little early to do some more driver shaft testing.
Three shafts: LA Golf Shaft, Vanquish and Blue Board.
LA Golf Shaft – Gives me a lower trajectory, long distance and pretty tight dispersion. The occaionsal long shot results in a 300+ drive with a boring, straight line. Average was approx 280. Club feel is solid, little bit of weight to it.
Vanquish – High trajectory, long distance and tight dispersion. Average was approx 285, with a long shot average approx 310+ with a beautiful draw. Club feels light, very well connected and controllable. The long drives were in more abundance and a thing of beauty.
Blue Board – When hit as intended, not as long, broader dispersion. Average was approx 265 with a long shot approx 285, straight line. Club feels heavier, even though it’s the same specs as the Vanquish. Control was lacking, feel was lacking and very aggravating. Definitely not as forgiving and on shots that I felt were going to be amazing, I would be let down in regards to distance. This club is fighting me like I called it a sissy and it’s pissed off.
Definitely an aggravating feeling, but one that I’m determined to try and get more consistency with.
Ten shot set…
154 avg ball speed
3417 avg spin
34Y avg peak
This in the mini could be more effective than I anticipated…
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12506751, member: 1579″]
Ten shot set…
154 avg ball speed
3417 avg spin
34Y avg peak
This in the mini could be more effective than I anticipated…
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Want to get a little more into what I saw yesterday.
Mind you, it’s sim only right now as without a sitter for kids it’s the best I can do, but….
The feel from the GT is noticeable for sure. The BB feel and flow is very very very real. When compared to the WB it’s more substantial, but with the materials in the new Diamana line I can get some more similarities in feel than I expected.
Ball did go high, but I kind of want that because it keeps the 340 mini from really encroaching on my driver too much. What was interesting are spin numbers were in that realm where I like them for a club like this. I don’t want to dip into the 2k’s, I want it to play like a 3w in spin, this hit that mark, but never got too high on poor misses.
Excited to work more with this now. Just so much going on in other testings for me it made the most sense to get this into the mini driver so it’ll get more time.
Hoping for course this evening, hoping.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12506751, member: 1579″]
Ten shot set…
154 avg ball speed
3417 avg spin
34Y avg peak
This in the mini could be more effective than I anticipated…
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Super interesting numbers here.
I’m jumping around a bit so not looking back, but can you refresh on loft and goal windows for this club?
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 12507530, member: 2320″]
Super interesting numbers here.
I’m jumping around a bit so not looking back, but can you refresh on loft and goal windows for this club?
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It’s a 13.5, the ole (new) 340 Mini.
So for me the biggie is consistency and placement off the tee. I want to be able to hit it either way, and I don’t want to encroach too much on driver.
We have some holes where 245-255 puts you in KILLER wedge range, and takes uneven or elevated lies out of play. That’s the window I want.
The GT I had in it before this experiment started yesterday did a lot of what I wanted, but without the feel that lets me feeeeeel like I can really work with it in the shapes I want. The new BB is old school BB smooth but with way tighter down range dispersion.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12507538, member: 1579″]
It’s a 13.5, the ole (new) 340 Mini.
So for me the biggie is consistency and placement off the tee. I want to be able to hit it either way, and I don’t want to encroach too much on driver.
We have some holes where 245-255 puts you in KILLER wedge range, and takes uneven or elevated lies out of play. That’s the window I want.
The GT I had in it before this experiment started yesterday did a lot of what I wanted, but without the feel that lets me feeeeeel like I can really work with it in the shapes I want. The new BB is old school BB smooth but with way tighter down range dispersion.
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That’s what I was most fascinated about, and figured to be the case, but wanted confirmation.
At 13.5, you’d almost expect some extra spin and some higher launch. While the spin is a bit higher than the desired driver numbers (correctly), the launch window staying just over 100 feet seems PERFECT. It really seems to measure up to that head style.
[QUOTE=”G8rJimbo, post: 12505028, member: 62520″]
Well, more feedback coming up. Got invited to a 9 hole scramble late afternoon, so I thought I’d get there a little early to do some more driver shaft testing.
Three shafts: LA Golf Shaft, Vanquish and Blue Board.
LA Golf Shaft – Gives me a lower trajectory, long distance and pretty tight dispersion. The occaionsal long shot results in a 300+ drive with a boring, straight line. Average was approx 280. Club feel is solid, little bit of weight to it.
Vanquish – High trajectory, long distance and tight dispersion. Average was approx 285, with a long shot average approx 310+ with a beautiful draw. Club feels light, very well connected and controllable. The long drives were in more abundance and a thing of beauty.
Blue Board – When hit as intended, not as long, broader dispersion. Average was approx 265 with a long shot approx 285, straight line. Club feels heavier, even though it’s the same specs as the Vanquish. Control was lacking, feel was lacking and very aggravating. Definitely not as forgiving and on shots that I felt were going to be amazing, I would be let down in regards to distance. This club is fighting me like I called it a sissy and it’s pissed off.
Definitely an aggravating feeling, but one that I’m determined to try and get more consistency with.
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Are they all fairly similar in grip as well?
Really interesting feedback on the presumed weight profile.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 12507562, member: 2320″]
That’s what I was most fascinated about, and figured to be the case, but wanted confirmation.
At 13.5, you’d almost expect some extra spin and some higher launch. While the spin is a bit higher than the desired driver numbers (correctly), the launch window staying just over 100 feet seems PERFECT. It really seems to measure up to that head style.
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It’s in that realm of launch where I don’t feel like I’ll lose it on the wind because of the spin, but it’s still high enough I can really place it.
I wasn’t sure how the profile would work for me in a big fairway wood, but so far it’s quite good.
Pretend I haven’t read this whole thread (like a lot of guests looking for info might not)
If the testers had to give one highlight about the shaft and one thing they are struggling with (if anything) what would those be?
From the specs, it looks like a tighter shaft than the previous versions of the Blueboard. So, it appears to be a totally new shaft rather than just minor tweaks here or there.
The Diamana TB which Diamana calls the “modern day blueboard” is more like the previous versions of the Blueboard.