Golf courses have never looked better. Fairways are striped, greens are smooth, bunkers are freshly raked and golfers have come to expect consistent conditions almost everywhere they play.
But are golf courses too easy?
On Episode 10 of Splitting Fairways, Hawk and Jeremy debate whether modern golf courses do enough to punish bad shots and, more importantly, where that punishment should actually come from.
The conversation starts with bunkers. For better players, a perfectly maintained bunker can sometimes be preferable to thick greenside rough. Would footprints, buried lies and inconsistent sand make them more of a true hazard, or simply introduce unnecessary randomness into the game?
Then there is rough. Growing it seems like an easy way to punish inaccurate shots, particularly at the professional level. For everyday golfers, however, thicker rough can mean more lost balls, longer searches and slower rounds.
That leads to another question: Should professional golfers face different consequences than the rest of us? Tour players have the speed and skill to recover from difficult situations, not to mention galleries, volunteers and spotters helping locate wayward shots.

Ultimately, the debate comes down to the difference between interesting difficulty and annoying difficulty. Firm surfaces, contours, strategic bunkering and angles can make golfers think their way around a course. Losing a ball barely off the fairway or hacking out of impossibly thick rough might just make golf more frustrating.
So, are golf courses too easy? Or is pristine conditioning exactly what golfers should expect?
What do you think? Are modern golf courses too manicured, or are consistent conditions exactly what golfers should expect? Check out Episode 10 of Splitting Fairways for the full debate.
Podcast: Play in new window | Download




#MakeGolfHarder is a craaaaaaaaaaaaazy hashtag to get going lmao
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 14284125, member: 2320″]
#MakeGolfHarder is a craaaaaaaaaaaaazy hashtag to get going lmao
[/QUOTE]
For the pros, not us lol
[QUOTE=”OldBDR, post: 14284122, member: 84277″]
From what I’ve been told be several teaching pros, as golfers get better, sand traps become easier than green side rough to get the ball close enough to get up and down. If you want a course to be harder for good players but easier for bad players, remove the sand traps.
[/QUOTE]
We’ve gone to a lot of grass bunkers around greens at my home course and they’re tough for everyone, but also more fair as the maintenance crew struggled to maintain the old sand bunkers consistently.
[QUOTE=”DataDude, post: 14284163, member: 47057″]
We’ve gone to a lot of grass bunkers around greens at my home course and they’re tough for everyone, but also more fair as the maintenance crew struggled to maintain the old sand bunkers consistently.
[/QUOTE]
Grass bunkers with thicker rough are probably more penal and cheaper for the course to maintain as well.
[QUOTE=”Lord Tox, post: 14284425, member: 5944″]
Grass bunkers with thicker rough are probably more penal and cheaper for the course to maintain as well.
[/QUOTE]
Yep, has allowed them to keep the sand bunkers they did keep in good shape also. It’s a win win IMO.
I think it all depends on the course. But in the public sector and municipal sector in my experiences pace of play has caused courses to get easier.
Ive seen buckets added to help contain or catch shots that used to bounce roll into woods. Ive seen trees cut down from inside corners of dog legs. Rough hight decressed. Undergrowth and natural debris cleared from under tree canopies between adjoining holes. Fescues along side areas not part of hole layouts but just to accept errant play.
So i feel pop has been a driving factor of making play easier for the bogey player. Which hasn't worked cause it was never about poor play but only about being slow but is another topic.
People want bunkers to not be nice and yet when it adds to pop issue your gonna want them nice again.
So yeah I think in my own experience courde have become easier or more accepting or forgiving.
On the other hand there are courses which pride themselves in being challenging and imo i think they can be too hard for most ams.
I think any average golf hole needs some amount of integrity. A 275 yard p4 with no leg and or nothing in the way is boring.
Doesn't mean i dont still screw it up mind you..lol but thats besides the point.
I saw the title of this episode and thought what the hell are they talking about! Great discussion! Pros don’t get penalized near enough for errant shots IMO… As a mid-handicap I don’t need footprints in a bunker to make it more penal!
I really liked this episode. You touch on pretty much most facets, but I dont think easier is the right term. As you mentioned, golf is still hard, except for Vic being such an easy driving course, but I think many have gone this route for pace.
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] makes a great point about the ball in the first cut to help the ball sit “up” a little and give some confidence.
[QUOTE=”MikeG, post: 14284784, member: 15992″]
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] makes a great point about the ball in the first cut to help the ball sit “up” a little and give some confidence.
[/QUOTE]
Definitely. One thing that, is that will typically come with a bit less spin. Or as we read online, those darn irons causing flyers 😂
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 14284789, member: 3″]
Definitely. One thing that, is that will typically come with a bit less spin. Or as we read online, those darn irons causing flyers 😂
[/QUOTE]
Gotta hate a flyer that usually helps you
We e had a lot of rain and storms recently so our course hadn’t been able to mow the rough due to other demands on their time, wetness, etc.
At league Monday night I had the first lie in ages in the rough where I thought, “Oh, I have to pay attention here!” Maybe just under 4″ long, thick, and criss-crossed. Actually nice to see it!
They cut things this morning. Ugh. Today our course was back to playing easier from the rough than the fairway. Maybe 1″ and consistent enough in most places that the ball sits up. It’s like setting your ball on a nice little tee.
Fantastic episode. And I’m not just saying that because I chose to wear my Golf is Hard Except On The Internet shirt today randomly.
[QUOTE=”MikeG, post: 14284784, member: 15992″]
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] makes a great point about the ball in the first cut to help the ball sit “up” a little and give some confidence.
[/QUOTE]
The point he didn’t mention though is how the first cut is easier because one’s tee game means they panic the 1 time they find themselves in a fairway and mess it up.
You all said it best: no. 😆
The main thing I wanted to say was I hope courses don’t take away rakes ever. While it’s not as important for casual play, the course is supposed to play the same for everyone, so rakes are needed to “reset” playing conditions. Plus, can you even imagine what players would do to bunkers to sabotage the players after them?!
[QUOTE=”shanewu, post: 14287805, member: 38120″]
You all said it best: no. 😆
The main thing I wanted to say was I hope courses don’t take away rakes ever. While it’s not as important for casual play, the course is supposed to play the same for everyone, so rakes are needed to “reset” playing conditions. [B]Plus, can you even imagine what players would do to bunkers to sabotage the players after them?![/B]
[/QUOTE]
First guy in a tournament who goes in there has a nice smooth pristine lie. By the time he walks out of the bunker it looks like two feral hogs had a deathmatch in it. Hey, good luck to the rest of the field!
i’ve changed my mind on this.
i’d be fine with no rakes.
just as long as that meant all sand bunkers would become waste bunkers instead.
i’d love the hard pack for two reasons: the ball would bounce out, and the nice firm lies!
ban the rake! :ROFLMAO:
finally got a chance to listen, did not want to comment until I did.
Unless/until I see regular schmoes like me out there dialing up below par rounds with regularity…no, courses are not too easy. I might go the other way.
My buddy just had 2 eagles in a round. That brings his career eagle total to…wait for it…2.
How much fun you think he had getting them?
then realize they were in the practice round where he shot a 79 just before blowing up in the member guest for an 87…same course. was it too easy day one?
i would argue no.
No need to make this already hard game harder for most of us.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 14287874, member: 3386″]
First guy in a tournament who goes in there has a nice smooth pristine lie. By the time he walks out of the bunker it looks like two feral hogs had a deathmatch in it. Hey, good luck to the rest of the field!
[/QUOTE]
yup, no way to get close to protecting the field
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 14283481, member: 1193″]
Courses need more rock outcroppings.
[/QUOTE]
That is what makes some of the mountain courses so spectacular. The Country Club up here has some great rock outcroppings on the back 9.
I think there’s a course for everyone: challenge, layout, value, price. Bigger issue here is finding said tee times