Earlier this year, we introduced you to Astral Putters, a company that is approaching putter design like nobody else. If you haven’t read our brand story on Astral, we highly encourage you to do so before going any further. The company’s journey from dream to reality is a compelling example of the power of the entrepreneurial spirit. Today, we dive into Astral Putters themselves. From the components to the fitting approach, we’ll cover it all.
The Astral Story
We aren’t going to rehash Astral’s entire brand story here since we covered it so thoroughly in the article linked above. However, if you’ve already read that it’s worth a quick summary.

Astral’s founder, Blake Callaway, was formerly an attorney with a passion for putter refinishing. Through all his experience working with putters and experimenting on the putting green he came to realize that fitting options available from mass-market equipment manufacturers were not meeting his needs. While he was able to go to the golf store and try dozens of different options, most of these options fit inside a very narrow window and didn’t offer the customization needed for him to maximize his performance.
Blake came to believe that toe hang and shaft offset were the two primary factors in delivering a repeatable square face at impact. However, the particular combination of those two factors that worked best for him, slight toe-hang and minimal offset, was almost impossible to find.
Thus, the idea behind Astral Putters was born; highly customizable putters built from components and a fitting system that allows each person to precisely dial in a putter to their individual stroke. Through consultation with the company’s experts, consumers can put together a putter that not only matches their needs but can be adjusted in the future if anything changes.
The Heads – Astral Putters
We’ll dive into Astra’s fitting system in a moment, but we have to start with the part that most of us look at before anything else – the putter head. Astral offers three different choices, and each one can be dialed in. In other words, consumers can pick the head they desire without any strings attached. Yes, since they are shaped differently, they will offer varying levels of stability and MOI, but the moment of truth (impact) will be the same.

The Blade is the most traditional of the three Astral offerings. This slim and compact head is a classic for a reason. It’s nimble, responsive, and gives the golfer the most opportunity to control the club head through the stroke. Astral’s blade features a moderate toe-to-heel length, square lines, and rounded bumpers that step down from the top line into the flange.
The Mid-Mallet is better known by golfers as a “double-wide blade”. It’s shorter than the Blade from heel to toe and is deeper from face to tail. This design will provide a bit more MOI (resistance to twisting) and a more modern looking option that should be popular with a wide variety of golfers.
The Mallet is a shape unique to Astral and is our favorite of the three. It’s a take on the fanged mallet we’ve all come to love but has its own unique look to set it apart. In some ways it almost reminds us of Batman, with the edges of the flange diagonally reaching out from the center to the tips of the fangs. As far as mallets go, we consider it to be on the smaller side. It’s relatively compact, but you still get the stability benefits this design typically offers.
The System – Astral Putters

The centerpiece of the Astral fitting system is the hosel. There are three “Z” shaped hosels of different lengths to choose from, and each one produces a different starting point when it comes to how much toe hang is available. The shortest encourages the most toe hang, the longest works best for face-balanced configurations, and the middle length bridges the gap with its versatility.

That’s not all though. These hosels can be oriented in any way the user wants in a 360 degree circle, producing wildly different results. What do we mean? Look close at the end of the hosel in the picture below. See the notches? Each one represents a clock position and there are 10 of them to choose from. Better yet – each hosel is reversible and the other end has another 10 notches to offer 10 more clock positions. Having a hard time imagining this? Let’s look at the picture of the three heads below, each with the hosel in a different place.

The Blade (far left) shows something similar to the type of offset we’d see with a plumber’s neck hosel. The Mid-Mallet in the center shows no offset at all. Finally, the Mallet shows a configuration similar to a flow neck hosel. All three of these settings are fairly common in production putters, but there are some wildly unique choices available. Want to try some onset? How about approximating a Zero Torque putters? You can do it with Astral. Better yet, you use the different hosel lengths to balance your desired amount of toe hang with the offset look you prefer at address. The options are almost limitless.
Fitting
It’s easy to see that there’s a level of complexity to the Astral fitting system. The execution is quite easy though. Each component attaches with a screw that tightly secures it. In fact, you’d be hard pressed to know that these putters are combinations of components when they are fully assembled. The company takes great pride in the tight tolerances they are able to produce.

Where to start though?
First, if you’re not a devout putter nerd that knows exactly what works for you, we highly recommend taking the path of least resistance. Reach out to the company. You can meet with their experts at no additional cost, and they will guide you to the right fit via email and eventually a video conference. They will discuss your aesthetic preferences and common misses in pre-consultation. Once you have their putter in hand, they’ll watch you take putts and guide you through the necessary adjustments to really dial things in.

What fun is that though?
We’re joking of course, but the fact remains that there is a group of us out there that has both the knowledge and desire to tinker, and Astral is the tinkerer’s dream come true. For those of you like us, we still suggest reaching out to the company to talk options, but from there we’ll point you to their fitting page. There you will find a full explanation and diagrams of the Astral system, along with a number of suggested starting points to build common putter configurations.
Throughout the review process we built flow necks, plumber’s necks, face-balanced putters, a zero-torque style design, and some we aren’t even sure have a name yet. The process takes a few minutes at most and is incredibly gratifying, as you can almost instantly see the results from your changes. As adventurous as we were, we still found that the old-fashioned flow neck worked best for us. Old habits are hard to break.

Of course, putter fitting has considerations other than offset and toe-hang. Length and lie angle are vitally important as well. Astral provides guidance on both of these things, and their method of choosing a lie angle was particularly helpful at home. As you likely know, lie angle impacts how upright or flat the putter and the shaft come up from the ground. Most companies default to 70 degrees. Improper lie angle can trick you into standing too far from or too close to the ball. It can force changes in your setup that negatively impact your natural stroke.
In addition, we learned that our desired lie angle could even change with the style of putter we were using! For example, the flow neck design by nature tricks the eyes into wanting to stand further from the ball. By adjusting it more upright with one of the five spuds Astral offers we were able to achieve a comfortable setup with our preferred head shape in seconds. This alone was worth the price of admission – a true “lightbulb” moment.
The Options and Customization
It seems crazy to say that there are even more ways to customize and dial in an Astral Putter, but there are. The company truly wants their product to be something that will last you a lifetime, and they’ve found ways to future-proof their putters.

First, as part of the fitting and building process, there are both shaft and grip options to pick from. The black KBS CT Tour shaft is available in a no-step or single step option. In addition, there are five grips available from Winn and SuperStroke.
Our favorite piece of customization is on the putter head itself. Astral’s component design goes even deeper than fitting choices. It allows you to swap the face insert and radically alter how the putter sounds and feels. Three base options are available: brass, copper, and carbon steel. Each one is much thicker than the inserts we typically seen on production putters and has unique properties that makes it stand out from the others.

Astral describes the brass as “crisp”, which is another way of saying it’s the firmest feeling insert they offer. Make no mistake – you will notice the firmness and high-pitched “ting” sound of the brass insert right away. There is a small group of enthusiasts out there that love the brass feel, and Astral delivers is nicely with this option.
The copper insert is described as the softest of the three, which proved to be true in terms of tactile feedback. This soft metal is undoubtedly much smoother than brass, though it does still carry with it a slightly higher pitched sound at impact. One thing we loved about the copper insert was its smooth, uniform look when installed. It contrasted nicely with the black head and provided a great visual cue for alignment purposes.
Our favorite of the three stock Astral insert options was the carbon steel. This insert is decidedly the most “modern” of the three in the sense that it is very familiar sounding compared to other current milled putters. Impact produces a soft, low-pitched click that we enjoyed with a variety of golf balls.

Are three insert choices not enough for you? If not, Astral even releases limited edition face inserts throughout the year. We had the pleasure of trying a Damascus steel insert, and it was impossible not to fall in love. The softness, responsiveness, and amazing visuals from the Damascus steel made this a winner in every sense of the word.
Astral offers a full customization program with engraving and color finishes in almost any combination you can imagine. They also utilize their custom program to create limited edition putters throughout the year. A personal favorite of ours was released ahead of the Masters last month. Emblazoned in green and yellow, this Reserve Series Augusta Collection putters from Astral are true standouts.
The Performance – Astral Putters Review
Finally, we come to performance. This was a tricky category to judge Astral putters in – not because they didn’t perform, but because they can (and do) perform so differently with every change that is made.
We felt like it was our duty to build and test as many configurations as possible in the last couple months. First, it was fun, but we also wanted to know if these builds behaved like we expected them to.

So, we had great putting performances, and we had some days better off forgotten. Why? Simply stated, because fitting matters. For example, the flow neck with an upright setting we built produced amazing and repeatable success. A face balanced putter we built did what face balanced putters do. Unfortunately for us, face balanced putters don’t make many putts. The plumber’s neck build delivered ample toe hang and face closure through the stroke. You get the point, which really proves Atral’s entire point – if you take the time to really dive in, whether on your own or with their experts’ help, you can craft a putter that wants to deliver a square face over and over again.
The Details – Astral Putters Review

Base prices for all Astral Putters start at $500. That price can increase if you decide to order extra fitting components like hosels, lie angle adapters, or face inserts. Custom options and Reserve Series putters are obviously priced a bit higher to reflect the additional work put into the product.
We highly encourage you to visit Astral’s social media pages and website, astralputters.com. At the least, you might start to learn just what it is that makes a putter work for you. You might even come away designing your own.





Had a decent round today. Struggled a little on the front but had a much better back nine.
As for putter performance, I was really pleased. It took me a few holes to get the speed down but by whole 4 I was rolling the ball really well. One three putt on the round with a total of 33. Made a 23 foot putt for birdie and was one rotation short of another long birdie putt dropping. I’ve got another round Sunday. I will play around with the settings again tomorrow to see if there is any more improvement to be made. If not, I’ll go back to this current white A2 setting.
I use shot scope. I’m a 20 HC. I had just under one stroke gained putting compared to a 15 HC.
One more thing. There is something to say about knowing the putter is fit for your stroke. It adds some confidence to the putting game. No swing thoughts. Just putt the ball and trust the putter.
Met up with [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] at his club this afternoon to do a 2nd fitting. This time for the mallet head. I did record the entire fitting so hopefully that has come out and I can get edited and uploaded to YouTube in the next few days.
One of the cool things about Astral is it is more than just a putter it’s a platform. You can change form factor, face or general setup in a few minutes. Want a softer or firmer feel a few screws and you can change out the face to get a different look or feel.
So far I haven’t changed anything about the blade putter so far. In today’s fitting we had the steel face in the mallet head and I think that face going into the blade this weekend. Steel is the lightest face material and because of that the insert is milled differently than the copper or brass. To get the weight the same the face and the edges are a bit thicker. Spoiler alert I really liked the feel of the steel face. One difference I noticed between the copper is the steel was when you got away from the center of the face. With the copper the sound difference on a miss hit is pretty dramatic. With the steel the sound was more consistent. You still know that you got away from the sweet spot but it’s a less dramatic change and I think the speed when you get back off center is a little more consistent than the copper. On the sweet spot the copper does feel amazing it also doesn’t hide the fact you miss hit the putt when you get away from the sweet spot.
To the mallet. Compared to the blade the larger footprint of the mallet changes the CG and how fast the face wants to rotate. Moving mass away from the face the head wants to rotate slower.
The component nature of astral design Blake took the blade head off and put the mallet head on. We started in the same setting as the blade. Red B2. This setting is similar to a plumber’s neck. It took a set of 5 balls to adjust to the different visuals of the bigger head. My aim was off. I was hitting the ball exactly where I was aiming. Unfortunately I was aimed directly at the left side of the putting gate.
Moving on we took some of the offset out and things straightened up.
We tried a setting with onset and it worked significantly better with the mallet head than the blade. Hitting it through the gate about a putter length away worked quite well.
Another setup was closer towards a zero torque feel and the short version was it wasn’t good. All of my putts with it hit the side of the gate.
After coming up with a couple of setting options to try I still had some time before I needed to get home to play chauffeur to my 8 year old. So we had a putting contest. I didn’t record the contest. The practice green at the club has a 9 hole putting course setup. We played it twice and I used each setup for 1 round. The first round I had the slight offset setup and won the contest. The 2nd round I had the on set setup and while it works well for shorter putts it was a bit of a disaster on lag putting. The farther into the round the worse my 1st putts became. It turned into a cycle of over correction both ways. The lesson here is you need a putter setup that works on both long lag putts and still make the high percentage short putts you need to make.
So I have the blade and mallet heads for testing. The settings are similar. The blade has more offset and toe hang. The mallet has a little less.
The mid mallet is calling my name.
I have zero need for a new putter and I am quite content with my current putter, but given there are about 5 others on my radar why not add this to the list?
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The mid mallet is calling my name.
I have zero need for a new putter and I am quite content with my current putter, but given there are about 5 others on my radar why not add this to the list?
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Astral really should be on a lot of people’s short list for putters. Being able to really get your setup dialed in to you and your needs is powerful.
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Astral really should be on a lot of people’s short list for putters. Being able to really get your setup dialed in to you and your needs is powerful.
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Honestly just the fact they have lefty options is a plus.
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Honestly just the fact they have lefty options is a plus.
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The lefty curse is seeing an amazing looking putter and then seeing it is right hand only. That’s one of the brilliant things about their design is the difference between the right and left hand versions is where the hole for the neck is milled. The heads are otherwise symmetrical.
I love the individual attention you guys are getting for fittings. Outstanding.
Second round with the Astral mid-mallet in the bag. I had big improvements in speed control compared to the first outing. I did not make any long putts but I’m getting the feel for this brass insert. Left most putts in the 2 foot range with a few around 3 feet.
I had a little trouble reading some of the greens today. Hit my line for the most part. But no plain bad putts. Getting a little more confident with this putter.
Going to run through the rest of the settings tonight and tomorrow to see how they impact results.
I mentioned Astral to my wife this afternoon after another bad putting round. She said, “I don’t know why you’re telling me. You know I’m just an enabler.” ?
So…. ?
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Second round with the Astral mid-mallet in the bag. I had big improvements in speed control compared to the first outing. I did not make any long putts but I’m getting the feel for this brass insert. Left most putts in the 2 foot range with a few around 3 feet.
I had a little trouble reading some of the greens today. Hit my line for the most part. But no plain bad putts. Getting a little more confident with this putter.
Going to run through the rest of the settings tonight and tomorrow to see how they impact results.
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Lag putts are always the last thing to come when I switch putters. Sounds like you’re trending in the right direction.
Does it seem like it gets the ball rolling well? Or do you notice any skidding?
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Lag putts are always the last thing to come when I switch putters. Sounds like you’re trending in the right direction.
Does it seem like it gets the ball rolling well? Or do you notice any skidding?
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It comes off the putter really well no skipping that I can see. It gets rolling end over end really quick.
Tinkered around with more settings tonight. Went from face balanced to crazy toe hang to toe up and anything in between. I noticed the set up of the neck and hosel has a big part of how you align and stand over the ball. I also found myself trying to compensate my putting stroke based on the look of the putter. After several different settings I went back to the white neck and A2 instead of B2 ( the setting I played today). A little less offset in A2. I’m gonna try this one for a little bit. Once the putting gate gets here, I will go through the fitting again.
Being able to try all these settings out for a putter is an interesting process.
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I noticed the set up of the neck and hosel has a big part of how you align and stand over the ball. I also found myself trying to compensate my putting stroke based on the look of the putter.
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During the mallet fitting the hosel changing the optics was something I noticed a lot more than with the blade. I had a series of balls that hit the left post and Blake was watching from behind and said I hit all of them exactly where I was lined up.
Back from camping, hand is better and going to the putting green for tests tomorrow. Let’s see if zero offset is really my thing.
I did it. Contact Us message sent through the Astral site with some questions to get this ball rolling!
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Went to the putting green with MY base Astral setup. Zero offset white hosel down. It is a revelation. Much easier to see the line even when addressing the club. Putts are leaving and staying on intended line and I made 25 to 40% more long putts, even with focusing on just the initial line and a smooth stroke. The balance and feel is great, and the extra weight helps me get to the hole without the need for a ton of extra effort on the backswing. Therefore, I can stay balanced and long putts are even more consistent. I used the copper insert and will start to compare the steel and bronze in next sessions. The copper has a good feel and relatively quiet sound on contact, which I like. Everything about this putter, and particularly the setup I am at now, just feels right and performs. Any suggestions or additional input [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] and [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] ? I might even be joining the internet golfers who are awesome putters [USER=3]@JB[/USER]
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Lag putts are always the last thing to come when I switch putters. Sounds like you’re trending in the right direction.
Does it seem like it gets the ball rolling well? Or do you notice any skidding?
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No skidding whatsoever tonight and that included putts up to 70′ or so. No hopping or jumping either. Putting green is in good shape, but still smooth the entire way.
Spent some time working on my stroke on the putting mat tonight. Really enjoying the feel of the brass insert. It has a nice, higher pitched sound when hitting the center of the face.
I still have it set on white A2. I am seeing good results. With this setting and the 72 degree lie angle I set up much better over the ball.
The putting gate should be delivered tomorrow. I’m going to go back through the self fitting once it gets here.
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Lag putts are always the last thing to come when I switch putters. Sounds like you’re trending in the right direction.
Does it seem like it gets the ball rolling well? Or do you notice any skidding?
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Of the two shaft options which might be closest to an All-In?
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Of the two shaft options which might be closest to an All-In?
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That’s a good question. Might need [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] for that one. I’m not knowledgeable on shafts.
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Went to the putting green with MY base Astral setup. Zero offset white hosel down. It is a revelation. Much easier to see the line even when addressing the club. Putts are leaving and staying on intended line and I made 25 to 40% more long putts, even with focusing on just the initial line and a smooth stroke. The balance and feel is great, and the extra weight helps me get to the hole without the need for a ton of extra effort on the backswing. Therefore, I can stay balanced and long putts are even more consistent. I used the copper insert and will start to compare the steel and bronze in next sessions. The copper has a good feel and relatively quiet sound on contact, which I like. Everything about this putter, and particularly the setup I am at now, just feels right and performs. Any suggestions or additional input [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] and [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] ? I might even be joining the internet golfers who are awesome putters [USER=3]@JB[/USER]
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Nothing we haven’t discussed. Goal is to get you putting unconscious – I.e. no double think standing over the ball, walk up read the line and putt. It sounds like we are well on the way toward that goal!!!
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Of the two shaft options which might be closest to an All-In?
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The One Step is for sure going to be the closest to the All-In. With that said our stock shaft – KBS CT Tour – is really good. A lot went into optimizing the feel of these clubs so I was huge stickler on making sure we picked a stock shaft that gave it justice. The step up from CT Tour to the One Step is incremental in my opinion. Having spent a lot of time with both, for the money, the CT Tour would be my choice. I play the One Step, and yes I can feel the difference, but it’s not hugely noticeable.
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The One Step is for sure going to be the closest to the All-In. With that said our stock shaft – KBS CT Tour – is really good. A lot went into optimizing the feel of these clubs so I was huge stickler on making sure we picked a stock shaft that gave it justice. The step up from CT Tour to the One Step is incremental in my opinion. Having spent a lot of time with both, for the money, the CT Tour would be my choice. I play the One Step, and yes I can feel the difference, but it’s not hugely noticeable.
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Appreciate it. I had no doubt you selected those shafts for a reason and wanted to start there, of course. (y)
Just had a great call with Blake and talked through some options and will have a Mid Mallet coming soon. Let’s go! ?
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Just had a great call with Blake and talked through some options and will have a Mid Mallet coming soon. Let’s go! ?
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I think you’re gonna like it
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I think you’re gonna like it
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I think so. I’ve tried a few different putters and shafts over the last couple of years. Spent far more than the cost of one Astral on all those. Why not try the one I can dial in with a quick change?
Really appreciate [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] taking the time to talk with me and offer his insights into which shaft, grip, and initial hosel settings might work for me. If I had just placed a blind order I would have picked slightly different so I’m glad we got the chance to talk.
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I think so. I’ve tried a few different putters and shafts over the last couple of years. Spent far more than the cost of one Astral on all those. Why not try the one I can dial in with a quick change?
Really appreciate [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] taking the time to talk with me and offer his insights into which shaft, grip, and initial hosel settings might work for me. If I had just placed a blind order I would have picked slightly different so I’m glad we got the chance to talk.
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Yes! Really cool that he’s willing to spend time with us like that.
I hope you find a groove with this putter. Looking forward to see what you think.
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I think so. I’ve tried a few different putters and shafts over the last couple of years. Spent far more than the cost of one Astral on all those. Why not try the one I can dial in with a quick change?
Really appreciate [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] taking the time to talk with me and offer his insights into which shaft, grip, and initial hosel settings might work for me. If I had just placed a blind order I would have picked slightly different so I’m glad we got the chance to talk.
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This is the way they do business. Awesome customer service and shows how much Blake cares about getting you into a putter that fits your style.
If the weather holds, I should be able to get a round in this afternoon. Have the putter still on the white, A2 setting. Will report back on the results.
I think I might know who that Paradise Blue mid is going to… :unsure: 😉
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I am out this afternoon for a round with my wife. More to report later but really excited to test under playing conditions. Have a great week with the fam [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER]
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I think I might know who that Paradise Blue mid is going to… :unsure: 😉
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That light head is so good looking. ?????????? on your choice.
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If the weather holds, I should be able to get a round in this afternoon. Have the putter still on the white, A2 setting. Will report back on the results.
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Looking forward to your thoughts
Well go figure…. I completed my fitting with Blake and was planning on testing the following day and woke up with a really bad cold that would not go away. Woke up this morning feeling much better so the plan is to go to the course tomorrow and do a bunch of testing. Plan is to have testing and my review completed this weekend.
My apologies to Blake and the rest of you for the delays but I will get back on track this weekend. 😎
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Something to highlight because it’s not always obvious in pictures. All the necks are the same height. The only thing the different necks have is the amount of shaft offset.
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This picture is the white and blue neck options. The red is in my putter. You can see top to bottom length is the same.
Depending on the neck configuration geometry might you might need to do. For example [USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] and the flow neck setup moved the head farther away so going more upright moves the head closer. In my fitting we started with a 72° lie angle and pretty quickly went to 70° because I was too toe up. Luckily that is just another component to screw in.
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I’m catching up and reading this thread from start to finish and this is such a cool freaking picture to show the offset differences!
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A few sneak peek pics. 😎
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Damn, this is a spectacular package!
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I think I might know who that Paradise Blue mid is going to… :unsure: 😉
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Oh my god….that’s the exact putter I’d choose with the insert as well. That’s going to be SPECTACULAR!!
Yep, after reading through here, the mid mallet would be the visual choice for me. Looks amazing. Add in that tiffany/powder blue that you got [USER=2635]@PiratePenguin[/USER] , hot damn!!!
It sounds like y’all have been experimenting more with the offset and toe hand part of this. How has that experience been being able to completely change the performance of a putter essentially immediately? I saw Blake say that’s not usually how this goes but since you guys are testing, that’s something they wanted you guys to be able to do. Has anyone dramatically moved away from what was recommended and have they seen success? Or has what was recommended, been the sweet spot?
Also since I didn’t see a ton of comparison to the faces, would anyone want to break down their thoughts on all three if they’ve used all of them yet?
[QUOTE=”Muchmore, post: 13326327, member: 56094″]
Also since I didn’t see a ton of comparison to the faces, would anyone want to break down their thoughts on all three if they’ve used all of them yet?
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I’ve spent time with the copper and steel faces. The steel face feels a little more consistent across the entire insert because steel is the lightest metal which allows the face to be a little thicker. The copper feels really nice. When you get away from the center on the copper face you really know it.
I’m putting the steel in the blade head for Sunday’s round.
[QUOTE=”leftybob, post: 13326402, member: 77429″]
I’ve spent time with the copper and steel faces. The steel face feels a little more consistent across the entire insert because steel is the lightest metal which allows the face to be a little thicker. The copper feels really nice. When you get away from the center on the copper face you really know it.
I’m putting the steel in the blade head for Sunday’s round.
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Yeah I saw your feedback on those two! Have you done any work with the Brass insert yet or just the Steel and Copper?
[QUOTE=”Muchmore, post: 13326425, member: 56094″]
Yeah I saw your feedback on those two! Have you done any work with the Brass insert yet or just the Steel and Copper?
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Haven’t put the brass in yet. At my 1st fitting I did hit a few putts with the brass insert in the mid mallet head. It felt good. The sound is very sharp almost like the old ping ping sound.
[QUOTE=”leftybob, post: 13326452, member: 77429″]
Haven’t put the brass in yet. At my 1st fitting I did hit a few putts with the brass insert in the mid mallet head. It felt good. The sound is very sharp almost like the old ping ping sound.
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Oh I’m not sure I could work with that lol
a video of all three inserts trying to get the sound would be cool!
[QUOTE=”Muchmore, post: 13326327, member: 56094″]
Yep, after reading through here, the mid mallet would be the visual choice for me. Looks amazing. Add in that tiffany/powder blue that you got [USER=2635]@PiratePenguin[/USER] , hot damn!!!
It sounds like y’all have been experimenting more with the offset and toe hand part of this. How has that experience been being able to completely change the performance of a putter essentially immediately? I saw Blake say that’s not usually how this goes but since you guys are testing, that’s something they wanted you guys to be able to do. Has anyone dramatically moved away from what was recommended and have they seen success? Or has what was recommended, been the sweet spot?
Also since I didn’t see a ton of comparison to the faces, would anyone want to break down their thoughts on all three if they’ve used all of them yet?
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I found my testing of the setup that I really am a zero offset guy. I don’t think Blake of I figured that from the beginning (maybe he did) but we went into it open-minded. As far as insert I have been using the copper and am just starting that bit of the testing. I didn’t want to have too many moving parts initially. I have to say I did not expect to like the copper but it has been a pleasant surprise as well, Great feel and consistent roll. I don’t hear much of a sound but the feedback from the feel is great. I will play a round today with the copper and then shift to one of the other inserts. FWIW I thought I would prefer the steel. I am also going to try a shorter shaft in the coming weeks. Brian says that the ultimate goal is to putt “unconciously” and by I translate that to mean we trust the putter and know it will perform in the way that is optimal for our stroke. I really think I am getting there with this setup. Time to bring it on the course and see if I can break it (like the software people say).
[QUOTE=”cmon man, post: 13326660, member: 68593″]
I found my testing of the setup that I really am a zero offset guy. I don’t think Blake of I figured that from the beginning (maybe he did) but we went into it open-minded. As far as insert I have been using the copper and am just starting that bit of the testing. I didn’t want to have too many moving parts initially. I have to say I did not expect to like the copper but it has been a pleasant surprise as well, Great feel and consistent roll. I don’t hear much of a sound but the feedback from the feel is great. I will play a round today with the copper and then shift to one of the other inserts. FWIW I thought I would prefer the steel. I am also going to try a shorter shaft in the coming weeks. Brian says that the ultimate goal is to putt “unconciously” and by I translate that to mean we trust the putter and know it will perform in the way that is optimal for our stroke. I really think I am getting there with this setup. Time to bring it on the course and see if I can break it (like the software people say).
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I read the whole thread so apologies if you did say it and I forgot it (a lot to read), where did you start in regards to offset. I remember your post about changing it slightly until you go to zero, I just cant remember where you started
[QUOTE=”Muchmore, post: 13326698, member: 56094″]
I read the whole thread so apologies if you did say it and I forgot it (a lot to read), where did you start in regards to offset. I remember your post about changing it slightly until you go to zero, I just cant remember where you started
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Yes for sure. I tend to be…..thorough at times haha. On another point when I tried the brass insert very quickly I did not experience a “loud ping” as noted by one of us. I will test out with different ball types when I get to that phase.
A quick two cents on offset and toe hang. IMO, they are the single most important specs of any putter, and I think of them as separate but related toggles. Having the power to manipulate both is really a game changer.
Some respond better to offset changes and others to toe hang, and most do best with a combination of both. I really let the customer’s opinion of what looks good to them drive above everything else. That often has the affect of having them find the offset configuration they like the most and then using different hosels to dial in fit through toe hang.
I’ve suggested an orderly process of progressing through the settings to make it more approachable and give people a manageable number of things to try, but there is no one right way. Philosophically, it’s all about finding what works for the specific golfer, so our fittings often go off script really quickly.
[QUOTE=”BC.Astral, post: 13326771, member: 82993″]
Having the power to manipulate both is really a game changer.
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I think this is the coolest thing ever. I’d been using essentially the same shape of putter this year but in two different neck (and in turn two different offset and toe hang) configurations. One of them was light years ahead of the other in my performance with it. Being able to take the best of both of them sounds like such an insanely cool concept!