Earlier this year, we introduced you to Astral Putters, a company that is approaching putter design like nobody else. If you haven’t read our brand story on Astral, we highly encourage you to do so before going any further. The company’s journey from dream to reality is a compelling example of the power of the entrepreneurial spirit. Today, we dive into Astral Putters themselves. From the components to the fitting approach, we’ll cover it all.
The Astral Story
We aren’t going to rehash Astral’s entire brand story here since we covered it so thoroughly in the article linked above. However, if you’ve already read that it’s worth a quick summary.

Astral’s founder, Blake Callaway, was formerly an attorney with a passion for putter refinishing. Through all his experience working with putters and experimenting on the putting green he came to realize that fitting options available from mass-market equipment manufacturers were not meeting his needs. While he was able to go to the golf store and try dozens of different options, most of these options fit inside a very narrow window and didn’t offer the customization needed for him to maximize his performance.
Blake came to believe that toe hang and shaft offset were the two primary factors in delivering a repeatable square face at impact. However, the particular combination of those two factors that worked best for him, slight toe-hang and minimal offset, was almost impossible to find.
Thus, the idea behind Astral Putters was born; highly customizable putters built from components and a fitting system that allows each person to precisely dial in a putter to their individual stroke. Through consultation with the company’s experts, consumers can put together a putter that not only matches their needs but can be adjusted in the future if anything changes.
The Heads – Astral Putters
We’ll dive into Astra’s fitting system in a moment, but we have to start with the part that most of us look at before anything else – the putter head. Astral offers three different choices, and each one can be dialed in. In other words, consumers can pick the head they desire without any strings attached. Yes, since they are shaped differently, they will offer varying levels of stability and MOI, but the moment of truth (impact) will be the same.

The Blade is the most traditional of the three Astral offerings. This slim and compact head is a classic for a reason. It’s nimble, responsive, and gives the golfer the most opportunity to control the club head through the stroke. Astral’s blade features a moderate toe-to-heel length, square lines, and rounded bumpers that step down from the top line into the flange.
The Mid-Mallet is better known by golfers as a “double-wide blade”. It’s shorter than the Blade from heel to toe and is deeper from face to tail. This design will provide a bit more MOI (resistance to twisting) and a more modern looking option that should be popular with a wide variety of golfers.
The Mallet is a shape unique to Astral and is our favorite of the three. It’s a take on the fanged mallet we’ve all come to love but has its own unique look to set it apart. In some ways it almost reminds us of Batman, with the edges of the flange diagonally reaching out from the center to the tips of the fangs. As far as mallets go, we consider it to be on the smaller side. It’s relatively compact, but you still get the stability benefits this design typically offers.
The System – Astral Putters

The centerpiece of the Astral fitting system is the hosel. There are three “Z” shaped hosels of different lengths to choose from, and each one produces a different starting point when it comes to how much toe hang is available. The shortest encourages the most toe hang, the longest works best for face-balanced configurations, and the middle length bridges the gap with its versatility.

That’s not all though. These hosels can be oriented in any way the user wants in a 360 degree circle, producing wildly different results. What do we mean? Look close at the end of the hosel in the picture below. See the notches? Each one represents a clock position and there are 10 of them to choose from. Better yet – each hosel is reversible and the other end has another 10 notches to offer 10 more clock positions. Having a hard time imagining this? Let’s look at the picture of the three heads below, each with the hosel in a different place.

The Blade (far left) shows something similar to the type of offset we’d see with a plumber’s neck hosel. The Mid-Mallet in the center shows no offset at all. Finally, the Mallet shows a configuration similar to a flow neck hosel. All three of these settings are fairly common in production putters, but there are some wildly unique choices available. Want to try some onset? How about approximating a Zero Torque putters? You can do it with Astral. Better yet, you use the different hosel lengths to balance your desired amount of toe hang with the offset look you prefer at address. The options are almost limitless.
Fitting
It’s easy to see that there’s a level of complexity to the Astral fitting system. The execution is quite easy though. Each component attaches with a screw that tightly secures it. In fact, you’d be hard pressed to know that these putters are combinations of components when they are fully assembled. The company takes great pride in the tight tolerances they are able to produce.

Where to start though?
First, if you’re not a devout putter nerd that knows exactly what works for you, we highly recommend taking the path of least resistance. Reach out to the company. You can meet with their experts at no additional cost, and they will guide you to the right fit via email and eventually a video conference. They will discuss your aesthetic preferences and common misses in pre-consultation. Once you have their putter in hand, they’ll watch you take putts and guide you through the necessary adjustments to really dial things in.

What fun is that though?
We’re joking of course, but the fact remains that there is a group of us out there that has both the knowledge and desire to tinker, and Astral is the tinkerer’s dream come true. For those of you like us, we still suggest reaching out to the company to talk options, but from there we’ll point you to their fitting page. There you will find a full explanation and diagrams of the Astral system, along with a number of suggested starting points to build common putter configurations.
Throughout the review process we built flow necks, plumber’s necks, face-balanced putters, a zero-torque style design, and some we aren’t even sure have a name yet. The process takes a few minutes at most and is incredibly gratifying, as you can almost instantly see the results from your changes. As adventurous as we were, we still found that the old-fashioned flow neck worked best for us. Old habits are hard to break.

Of course, putter fitting has considerations other than offset and toe-hang. Length and lie angle are vitally important as well. Astral provides guidance on both of these things, and their method of choosing a lie angle was particularly helpful at home. As you likely know, lie angle impacts how upright or flat the putter and the shaft come up from the ground. Most companies default to 70 degrees. Improper lie angle can trick you into standing too far from or too close to the ball. It can force changes in your setup that negatively impact your natural stroke.
In addition, we learned that our desired lie angle could even change with the style of putter we were using! For example, the flow neck design by nature tricks the eyes into wanting to stand further from the ball. By adjusting it more upright with one of the five spuds Astral offers we were able to achieve a comfortable setup with our preferred head shape in seconds. This alone was worth the price of admission – a true “lightbulb” moment.
The Options and Customization
It seems crazy to say that there are even more ways to customize and dial in an Astral Putter, but there are. The company truly wants their product to be something that will last you a lifetime, and they’ve found ways to future-proof their putters.

First, as part of the fitting and building process, there are both shaft and grip options to pick from. The black KBS CT Tour shaft is available in a no-step or single step option. In addition, there are five grips available from Winn and SuperStroke.
Our favorite piece of customization is on the putter head itself. Astral’s component design goes even deeper than fitting choices. It allows you to swap the face insert and radically alter how the putter sounds and feels. Three base options are available: brass, copper, and carbon steel. Each one is much thicker than the inserts we typically seen on production putters and has unique properties that makes it stand out from the others.

Astral describes the brass as “crisp”, which is another way of saying it’s the firmest feeling insert they offer. Make no mistake – you will notice the firmness and high-pitched “ting” sound of the brass insert right away. There is a small group of enthusiasts out there that love the brass feel, and Astral delivers is nicely with this option.
The copper insert is described as the softest of the three, which proved to be true in terms of tactile feedback. This soft metal is undoubtedly much smoother than brass, though it does still carry with it a slightly higher pitched sound at impact. One thing we loved about the copper insert was its smooth, uniform look when installed. It contrasted nicely with the black head and provided a great visual cue for alignment purposes.
Our favorite of the three stock Astral insert options was the carbon steel. This insert is decidedly the most “modern” of the three in the sense that it is very familiar sounding compared to other current milled putters. Impact produces a soft, low-pitched click that we enjoyed with a variety of golf balls.

Are three insert choices not enough for you? If not, Astral even releases limited edition face inserts throughout the year. We had the pleasure of trying a Damascus steel insert, and it was impossible not to fall in love. The softness, responsiveness, and amazing visuals from the Damascus steel made this a winner in every sense of the word.
Astral offers a full customization program with engraving and color finishes in almost any combination you can imagine. They also utilize their custom program to create limited edition putters throughout the year. A personal favorite of ours was released ahead of the Masters last month. Emblazoned in green and yellow, this Reserve Series Augusta Collection putters from Astral are true standouts.
The Performance – Astral Putters Review
Finally, we come to performance. This was a tricky category to judge Astral putters in – not because they didn’t perform, but because they can (and do) perform so differently with every change that is made.
We felt like it was our duty to build and test as many configurations as possible in the last couple months. First, it was fun, but we also wanted to know if these builds behaved like we expected them to.

So, we had great putting performances, and we had some days better off forgotten. Why? Simply stated, because fitting matters. For example, the flow neck with an upright setting we built produced amazing and repeatable success. A face balanced putter we built did what face balanced putters do. Unfortunately for us, face balanced putters don’t make many putts. The plumber’s neck build delivered ample toe hang and face closure through the stroke. You get the point, which really proves Atral’s entire point – if you take the time to really dive in, whether on your own or with their experts’ help, you can craft a putter that wants to deliver a square face over and over again.
The Details – Astral Putters Review

Base prices for all Astral Putters start at $500. That price can increase if you decide to order extra fitting components like hosels, lie angle adapters, or face inserts. Custom options and Reserve Series putters are obviously priced a bit higher to reflect the additional work put into the product.
We highly encourage you to visit Astral’s social media pages and website, astralputters.com. At the least, you might start to learn just what it is that makes a putter work for you. You might even come away designing your own.





I’ll try to get some more pics of how different hosel settings impact putter hang.
I can’t remember which one it was, but I had one set up where the putter was basically an inverted face balance. Putter was almost level but the face was down, not up.
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I’ll try to get some more pics of how different hosel settings impact putter hang.
I can’t remember which one it was, but I had one set up where the putter was basically an inverted face balance. Putter was almost level but the face was down, not up.
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Sounds like that one would need therapy, for being unbalanced. :p
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Sounds like that one would need therapy, for being unbalanced. :p
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If there are any crazy settings you want to see I’ll try to re-create.
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I’m curious what type of stroke this is ideal for.
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Assuming you are asking about the Blue B10 position specifically.
– The blue hosel has the largest potential offset. The different offsets helps control where the shaft axis is relative to the head.
– the hosel has notches on both the top and bottom so A or B is which side is up or down.
– 10 is the position which notch in the hosel you are using. On a circle 1 would be top dead center and the numbers go up as you move clockwise around the circle. It’s not quite a clock face but 10 is going to be top left so a little bit of offset.
Combining all those factors if I’m remembering this correctly moving the shaft axis to the center of the face will make it fairly close to face balanced and having a little offset will help the face rotate a bit.
Because you can manipulate several parameters you can get a look and feel dialed in to make yourself happy.
Here is the full and uncut 28 minute video of my astral mallet fitting.
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Sorry the audio is so bad. I forgot the external microphone so the audio is pure iPhone.
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Red hosel in various positions
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Thanks for letting us take a peek at that beauty! No need to bring two putters if your unsure what you want to roll that day with Astral. Just swap out the head and tweak it to the right settings.
Love that color combo!
Did more putting practice tonight on the mat. Going to give Red A3 a run for a while.
So far so good. I really like the feel of the brass insert. The sound isn’t much different than the putter I had in the bag. There is a little feedback in off center hits with a more muted sound. I’ve had good results with distance control. Enjoying this set up for now and will resist the urge to tinker until after my round this weekend.
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Red hosel in various positions
A1 (no offset, toe hang)
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Hosel setting chart
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It’s crazy the level of customization and the drastic change being able to achieve.
If I were to buy the full kit at home, how do I determine which is best for me? Do I need specific additional equipment? Is it just based on feel and personal feedback on what you think is best for you?
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If I were to buy the full kit at home, how do I determine which is best for me? Do I need specific additional equipment? Is it just based on feel and personal feedback on what you think is best for you?
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I think it would be trial and error until you find what gives you the best results. I think face insert is mostly personal preference as all three are the same weight.
As far as shaft, grip, head type, a quick call with [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] would get you pointed in the right direction.
Once you get the putter in hand, it’s a matter of going through the settings and seeing what works. A consistent miss is easiest to remedy as you can make changes to steer yourself back to center.
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I think it would be trial and error until you find what gives you the best results. I think face insert is mostly personal preference as all three are the same weight.
As far as shaft, grip, head type, a quick call with [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] would get you pointed in the right direction.
Once you get the putter in hand, it’s a matter of going through the settings and seeing what works. A consistent miss is easiest to remedy as you can make changes to steer yourself back to center.
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How easy would you say is the process? Can everyone do it (all handicaps) or do you need to have already some understanding of putters?
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How easy would you say is the process? Can everyone do it (all handicaps) or do you need to have already some understanding of putters?
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I think anyone can do it. I’m a 19 HC and had no putter knowledge before being selected as a tester. Prior to this, my only requirement for a putter was that I can scoop the ball up with the back of the blade when leaving the green ?
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I think anyone can do it. I’m a 19 HC and had no putter knowledge before being selected as a tester. Prior to this, my only requirement for a putter was that I can scoop the ball up with the back of the blade when leaving the green ?
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That’s great to know because I’m sure it can be a hurdle and a bit scary for some people to think about buying it and not being able to make the proper fitting adjustments
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That’s great to know because I’m sure it can be a hurdle and a bit scary for some people to think about buying it and not being able to make the proper fitting adjustments
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I get that. It could take a while. I’ve been self fitting so far. Found a few settings I really like but I think “the one” is still out there.
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I get that. It could take a while. I’ve been self fitting so far. Found a few settings I really like but I think “the one” is still out there.
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Is that something that Astral team can help with through some type of remote fitting?
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Is that something that Astral team can help with through some type of remote fitting?
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I think that is possible
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Is that something that Astral team can help with through some type of remote fitting?
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My experience: I had a phone call with Blake and one of the other guys (Ryan) and we talked through the options and which might work best for me. I went in thinking one thing and came out of the call with almost a completely different setup after hearing Blake explain things and make recommendations. (Nothing crazy, but if I had just blindly ordered I would have been in a different shaft and grip.)
I later got an email from Blake with a detailed list of starting point and some nearby settings to try:
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So it isn’t just blindly fitting yourself. I view it kind of like the Cobra FF33 adapter – nobody is going to use or need all 33 settings, but EVERYONE will find 1-3 settings that work for them and those 1-3 setting may be completely different from the next guy, but having the adapter options make it versatile and help you fine tune in a way a static hosel just can’t do.
On the good news front, UPS has my putter out for delivery today, it just didn’t get scanned somewhere in CO before showing up here yesterday afternoon. ?
Great explanation. Not all trial and error. Blake does provide a guideline on how to work through the hosel settings. This is trying to get you close and then fine tune by manipulating toe hang and offset.
For me, the first self fitting I really liked white A3 and B3 which has a good bit of offset and medium toe hang. After a few days and a couple rounds of golf I still had a few right side misses due to a push. Since I liked the offset look and feel, I tried the A3 and B3 in the red hosel which has more toe hang and should help steer more left to eliminate the push. So far so good. Going to go with Red A3 for a bit to see if I get better results on the course.
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My experience: I had a phone call with Blake and one of the other guys (Ryan) and we talked through the options and which might work best for me. I went in thinking one thing and came out of the call with almost a completely different setup after hearing Blake explain things and make recommendations. (Nothing crazy, but if I had just blindly ordered I would have been in a different shaft and grip.)
I later got an email from Blake with a detailed list of starting point and some nearby settings to try:
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So it isn’t just blindly fitting yourself. I view it kind of like the Cobra FF33 adapter – nobody is going to use or need all 33 settings, but EVERYONE will find 1-3 settings that work for them and those 1-3 setting may be completely different from the next guy, but having the adapter options make it versatile and help you fine tune in a way a static hosel just can’t do.
On the good news front, UPS has my putter out for delivery today, it just didn’t get scanned somewhere in CO before showing up here yesterday afternoon. ?
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Thanks for sharing the steps process. I personally feel that I would need a fitter to tell me due to so many options which is best suited for me. Saame thought I have for the Cobra FF33 adapter. If I were to buy that club, I would for sure go to a fitter to tell me which setting is the correct one for me.
[USER=2635]@PiratePenguin[/USER] Oh and congrats on the putter arriving! Looking forward to hear your feedbacks
[QUOTE=”cringjr, post: 13335887, member: 70243″]
I kinda started over from scratch today just to see if I would end up with a different setting. I just got the putting gate and did not have it when I self fit the first time.
I started with my current gamer, Cleveland HB Soft #8. A wide blade, slight toe hang and a little offset. Pics below compare the HB to the Astral mid-mallet. You can see in the pics, the heads are the same width, but the HB is longer from heel to toe. Even though the HB is a little longer, the Astral feels a little heavier.
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I think this pic of the mid mallet proves that this is absolutely the one I would go with. What a spectacular shape!
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I had my virtual fitting with Blake last weekend and then caught a really bad cold and was not able to do any testing until yesterday. At the end of the fitting, I told Blake that the putter felt amazing and I didn’t think we would need to make any more changes. He replied with “You never know. The putter could feel right in the moment and not feel right the next time out” and sure enough, he was right. I’ll get into that more in a bit but first, I want to share the fitting experience with you.
Our Virtual Fitting was setup with Microsoft Teams. Fortunately, I use Teams at work so it went without any glitches. We started the fitting with Blake sharing why he decided to create his own line of adjustable putters and what he felt was necessary in terms of adjustability to be able to dial in his putters to just about any golfer. The amount of adjustability in his line of putters is amazing. Sure you could make loft and lie adjustments to standard putters by bending the hosel but that’s about as far as you can go and only a limited amount of times because eventually the hosel would weaken and break.
The Astral putters can be adjusted for loft, lie and offset plus you have the ability to adjust the balance of the face by adding or taking out toe hang. If that’s not enough, these putters can be adjusted an unlimited amount of times.
Blake also explained how to change the face balance or toe hang and offset or no offset to match my putting stroke. After testing several different setups, we started to fine tune the putter for best and consistent results. What I ended up with was a face balanced putter with zero offset. I’ve gone through my fair share of putters over the years and the only putter I ever had that didn’t have offset was the old Bullseye putter from the 70’s. I absolutely love the look of zero offset and at the time of the fitting, I was certain that would be the setup I stay with.
Fast forward to this weekend…. I was able to play a round using the Astral Blade putter with the setup we ended up with during the fitting. I got to the course early and hit the putting green. The greens were faster than normal and it took a bit for me to get comfortable with the putter. As mentioned by the others, the first thing I noticed was the putter feels heavy and distance control was a challenge for me early on. Once I was warmed up, we hit the course to start the round. First couple of holes I blew my putts long and by the 3rd, I had settled down and started getting the distance right. That’s when I started pushing my putts right and when I tried to correct the push, it would end up in a pull. I thought about what Blake said about offset and toe hang and decided to make 1 small adjustment at the turn. For the back nine, I added some offset which also added a little bit of toe hang to the putter. I immediately saw an improvement and started draining putts. Gone was the push and over-compensated pull misses and the only putts that missed were mis-reads.
After the round, I went back to the putting green to do some testing. I put the zero offset, face balance setup back on the putter and was pushing putts again. Went back to the offset, slight toe hang and started draining putts again. I plan on calling Blake this week to pick his brain on a couple of things but for now, I am very happy with the putter and can’t wait to get back out again.
Here’s a few short clips of how each insert sounds.
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Slight sound difference. Shockingly, the steel SEEMED the loudest in the videos!
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Hosel setting chart
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Thank you for this! Was hard to totally understand the settings being mentioned. Not anymore!
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Thank you for this! Was hard to totally understand the settings being mentioned. Not anymore!
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When I get home this evening I’ll post pictures of the hosel in the club head. That might make it easier to see
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I’m curious what type of stroke this is ideal for.
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It could be just about anyone and whatever their type of stroke may be. It could even be one of us and we will never know unless we try. With 60 different positions and the systematic way or going through the process, there is great opportunity to learn something about how you putt. Maybe [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] can provide further illumination. Personally that setting and some similar are those I intend to try after getting through the different inserts.
[QUOTE=”Baron1, post: 13338837, member: 72694″]
If I were to buy the full kit at home, how do I determine which is best for me? Do I need specific additional equipment? Is it just based on feel and personal feedback on what you think is best for you?
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You would have an initial online discussion with Astral and they would then make suggestions as to what might work, and maybe modify the fitting trials. Then you will have another fitting session (online for most as well) where the process is explained and where you can putt with Blake watching. Astral provide a putting “gate” that is pretty diagnostic to determine if you are pushing or pulling with each setting. There is or can be a bit of tinkering because even when we get to a great setting we wonder if something is a touch better right? So you try and then decide what fits your stroke and eye. Blake is available for consultation at all points of the process.
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I think this pic of the mid mallet proves that this is absolutely the one I would go with. What a spectacular shape!
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Yes, the mid mallet is pretty awesome.
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Slight sound difference. Shockingly, the steel SEEMED the loudest in the videos!
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That’s the conclusion I came to as well.
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Blake is available for consultation at all points of the process.
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The personal touch is great. Wonder as they scale up if they can continue doing that for everyone
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I think this pic of the mid mallet proves that this is absolutely the one I would go with. What a spectacular shape!
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I really like the look. It’s a very confidence inspiring putter.
Presenting… “Derek”
(10 points if you can think of why I would name it Derek.)
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34”
74* lie
KBS no step shaft
Winn Excel NTP grip
Copper face
Mid-mallet
In bright light it is quite blue, in shadow more navy/teal. Pretty cool.
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Presenting… “Derek”
(10 points if you can think of why I would name it Derek.)
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34”
74* lie
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Winn Excel NTP grip
Copper face
Mid-mallet
In bright light it is quite blue, in shadow more navy/teal. Pretty cool.
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Holy sweet mother mary ???
[QUOTE=”PiratePenguin, post: 13340457, member: 2635″]
Presenting… “Derek”
(10 points if you can think of why I would name it Derek.)
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34”
74* lie
KBS no step shaft
Winn Excel NTP grip
Copper face
Mid-mallet
In bright light it is quite blue, in shadow more navy/teal. Pretty cool.
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That looks awesome
[QUOTE=”PiratePenguin, post: 13340457, member: 2635″]
Presenting… “Derek”
(10 points if you can think of why I would name it Derek.)
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34”
74* lie
KBS no step shaft
Winn Excel NTP grip
Copper face
Mid-mallet
In bright light it is quite blue, in shadow more navy/teal. Pretty cool.
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Nice looking putter! I admit I don’t get the reference to Derek
Derek for Derek Zoolander. Because it is made from… blue steel :p
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[QUOTE=”PiratePenguin, post: 13340477, member: 2635″]
Derek for Derek Zoolander. Because it is made from… blue steel :p
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You spoiled the guessing lol. But I was thinking of more like an oil field or Billy Bob reference.
[QUOTE=”Boosted, post: 13339799, member: 84260″]
That’s the conclusion I came to as well.
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I am on to the sound test next. I have tried only the copper and bronze to-date. The copper is really quiet and the bronze sounded similar to my old steel face putter. I have not noticed a real difference in audio cues for different ball types thus far.
[QUOTE=”Baron1, post: 13339953, member: 72694″]
The personal touch is great. Wonder as they scale up if they can continue doing that for everyone
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In my first fitting Blake did tell me they are working on a guide for self fitting to help people get dialed in and be able to refit themselves when they change things in their putting stroke. I had an ongoing wrist injury that caused me to at least temporarily has stopped me from putting cross handed. So if I go change back to cross handed it will change the way the face rotates during my putting stroke and might require some changes to my current settings.
[QUOTE=”leftybob, post: 13340732, member: 77429″]
In my first fitting Blake did tell me they are working on a guide for self fitting to help people get dialed in and be able to refit themselves when they change things in their putting stroke. I had an ongoing wrist injury that caused me to at least temporarily has stopped me from putting cross handed. So if I go change back to cross handed it will change the way the face rotates during my putting stroke and might require some changes to my current settings.
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Hope your wrist is ok now. That’s actually a great point for Astral… being able to change/adapt without having to purchase a new club
[QUOTE=”PiratePenguin, post: 13340477, member: 2635″]
Derek for Derek Zoolander. Because it is made from… blue steel :p
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I was going to say the same but because it’s “really really ridiculously good looking”
Fun color putters are fun.
[QUOTE=”Baron1, post: 13340741, member: 72694″]
Hope your wrist is ok now. That’s actually a great point for Astral… being able to change/adapt without having to purchase a new club
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The wrist is better now. I’ll try cross handed putting in a couple of weeks. Mechanics the putter is dialed so I don’t feel a huge need to change back. With past putters the cross handed grip slowed my face rotation and helped me start on shorter putts on my intended line. Longer putts I grip normally to get more flow in the stroke. There is potentially situation where having a little more toe hang might increase the flow on longer putts and offsetting that extra rotation on shorter putts with the cross handed grip.
One of the things with the fitting process and hitting balls through the gates is you will probably find a couple of settings that work on the short putts. You need to take those settings and see how they work on long lag putts. After my mallet fitting [USER=82993]@BC.Astral[/USER] and I had a putting contest on the putting course the club had on the practice green. We did 2 rounds 1 with each of the 2 best settings from the fitting. I won the 1st round. Lost the second round because my lag putting managed to get worse as the round went on. Part of the fitting process is finding the setting that works for all the parts of your putting.
[USER=56094]@Muchmore[/USER] hope this helps. This is some of the “A” positions. The “B” positions fall in between A.
A1
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A2
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I’ve been doing a lot of testing at home on the simulator and now I am looking forward to going to the course and do some comparative testing on the practice greens.
Received my 31″ shaft (easy…putter shaft) and reconfigured everything for more testing and on course tomorrow. I like the shorter putter but reserve judgement as to optimal length. This shaft has a Sure Shot grip and I already miss the Winn NTP grip. The Winn is a size that fits my style better and is firmer to the touch. I went to the Blue hosel and it is not as appealing to the eye so I may change back to the red quickly. I do like the steel insert and it also feels good with good feedback. Audio cues are subdues which I prefer. At this point I think I am deciding between steel and copper on the insert. I will capture some vids on the insert sound for a second opinion, and add photos in my next post.
I followed the above instructions to test all the closest settings that might work for me based on the email.
Red A1 looked great but I kept pushing putts a bit
White A1 also looked great and seemed to take away the right miss almost immediately
Blue A1 was ok, but didn’t feel quite as accurate as White A1 did
Adding some offset by flipping them and going 1 click of offset back was ok, but I just really don’t like looking at much offset and I was having more misses with any of the hosels in B1, so I went back to White A1 (zero offset, lots of toe hang) and immediately felt like I was hitting my line again and finding the cup on my practice mat.
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So I’m going to leave it in White A1 for now and use that for some more practice the rest of this week and my round on Saturday. It’s a course I am familiar with and have plenty of stats from with my old putter, and they keep the greens in nice shape so it should be a good indicator of how I feel rolling it on an actual course vs the 14 foot mat in my garage. We’ve all had the experience of liking a putter on the mat at the store only to stand over it on a course and dislike it / find it really doesn’t fit you, I’m sure.
Rotating through all of those 6 settings took maybe 30 minutes – time for the changes and hitting putts. Swapping the hosel around is quite easy, especially after the first one. A couple of minutes tops, mostly from trying to be careful about the tiny screws, but the tool is magnetized so they stay on well – didn’t drop one at all.
Did some indoor putting on my putting mat last night. Bouncing between the A3/B3 setting on the red hosel. Just looking for some consistency. Need to get out to the practice green and off the mat.
The more I put with this the more I like it. Ive said it before but I really like the brass insert and the weight of the putter is perfect. I really look forward to getting on the green and rolling puts with this putter.
[QUOTE=”PiratePenguin, post: 13343207, member: 2635″]
I followed the above instructions to test all the closest settings that might work for me based on the email.
Red A1 looked great but I kept pushing putts a bit
White A1 also looked great and seemed to take away the right miss almost immediately
Blue A1 was ok, but didn’t feel quite as accurate as White A1 did
Adding some offset by flipping them and going 1 click of offset back was ok, but I just really don’t like looking at much offset and I was having more misses with any of the hosels in B1, so I went back to White A1 (zero offset, lots of toe hang) and immediately felt like I was hitting my line again and finding the cup on my practice mat.
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So I’m going to leave it in White A1 for now and use that for some more practice the rest of this week and my round on Saturday. It’s a course I am familiar with and have plenty of stats from with my old putter, and they keep the greens in nice shape so it should be a good indicator of how I feel rolling it on an actual course vs the 14 foot mat in my garage. We’ve all had the experience of liking a putter on the mat at the store only to stand over it on a course and dislike it / find it really doesn’t fit you, I’m sure.
Rotating through all of those 6 settings took maybe 30 minutes – time for the changes and hitting putts. Swapping the hosel around is quite easy, especially after the first one. A couple of minutes tops, mostly from trying to be careful about the tiny screws, but the tool is magnetized so they stay on well – didn’t drop one at all.
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How does this set up compare to the putter you had in the bag before testing? Is it similar or significantly different? What was your typical miss with that putter?
The putter I had in the bag was very similar to the white B1 setting (slight toe hang, slight offset). My typical miss was a push. I’m rolling with the red hosel (more toe hang) and settings A3/B3 (more offset) to help steer left and stop with the push miss to the right.
[QUOTE=”cringjr, post: 13343255, member: 70243″]
How does this set up compare to the putter you had in the bag before testing? Is it similar or significantly different? What was your typical miss with that putter?
The putter I had in the bag was very similar to the white B1 setting (slight toe hang, slight offset). My typical miss was a push. I’m rolling with the red hosel (more toe hang) and settings A3/B3 (more offset) to help steer left and stop with the push miss to the right.
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I’ve mostly been gaming a 2022 Toulon Las Vegas H4.5 black with a 3/4 shaft offset and 45* toe hang.
Biggest difference will be back to more blade style and zero offset. Curious how it impacts my aim on course, but seems good so far.