Off Course is back this week with a fantastic show and this is episode 171. Hosted by Dan Edwards, each Friday he gives you a deep look into the world of golf and equipment in a way unlike any other podcast has done before. Today, Zack Oakley from Callaway Golf joins the show and the discussion centers around their latest releases including the 2023 Callaway Apex Pro irons.
It wouldn’t be Off Course without some tangents, but Dan and Zack talk about the Callaway Apex Pro irons and comparing the lineup. This show has a lot going on and is one you will not want to miss as new Callaway irons go Off Course.

Episode 171 is here and Dan and Zack discuss the following topics.
Comparing the Callaway Apex Pro Series
Tour Feedback and Adoption
Apex Pro Sole Re-Imagined
Combo Set Potential
The Callaway Apex UT and UW
And so much more
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THPGolf · Callaway Apex Pro Goes Off Course
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Oh f… yeah!!! I’m ready to tee this up on my run to hear what Zack has to say!!!
Sweet!!!
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#SuperHybrid
Oh man, can’t wait to listen to this one later today!
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Team #SuperHybrid here.
Super excited for this!!!
Also, #TeamUW for sure no questions
I meant to ask and I’m sure it’s been asked already but …..
Can this be found on Spotify?
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I meant to ask and I’m sure it’s been asked already but …..
Can this be found on Spotify?
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Not currently.
Fun listen so far Zack is a great guy. These irons are exciting. I dont think I have ever bought a club day 1 launch like I did these.
Zack has an overall excitement about equipment that is hard to describe, but I love it.
Looking forward to giving this a listen later. And I’m definitely #TeamUW.
Oh heck yes!! Can’t wait to listen to this one!!
Zach! Awesome listening here
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Team UW and it’s not even close. Sadly, I won’t be able to go UW in the 3w spot so may have to be both. I’m thinking Super Hybrid at the 16* turned down to 15* and the UW at 19*.
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#SuperHybrid
It’s very interesting how they focused their R&D efforts on the better players with the Apex Pro line. It completely makes sense and really helps to put the golfer in the spotlight. If they have this kind of focus on the better golfers, I can’t wait to see what they do for golfers like me! Next year is going to be fantastic :love:
The thing that most interests me about the Apex Pro line is the redesigned sole. Johnny Wunder talked about it and with Zack again discussing the emphasis on it, I cannot to experience these first-hand.
I am 100% up in the air as to what my set make up may be.
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#SuperHybrid
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Well that was one freaking exciting Off Course! I was on a run and just kept in running and running until it was over. Ended up going 5.75 miles! I left that podcast so amped right now and listening tomZack talk tech and about the Apex Pro Series line…wow!!!
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712672, member: 19877″]
Well that was one freaking exciting Off Course! I was on a run and just kept in running and running until it was over. Ended up going 5.75 miles! I left that podcast so amped right now and listening tomZack talk tech and about the Apex Pro Series line…wow!!!
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Should have just run to JBs to go hit them :LOL:
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Should have just run to JBs to go hit them :LOL:
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definitely a missed opportunity
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Should have just run to JBs to go hit them :LOL:
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I ran past his bougie development when the topic of dynamic sole design came up and almost made a detour.
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 11712678, member: 10545″]
definitely a missed opportunity
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What if I have already hit them. ????
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712690, member: 19877″]
What if I have already hit them. ????
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you should hit them again
Small flex of the Grandaddy mentioned at the end for those who skim through.
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 11712695, member: 10545″]
you should hit them again
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May happen today.
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[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712696, member: 19877″]
Small flex of the Grandaddy mentioned at the end for those who skim through.
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Nobody skims on THP.
The convo about keeping the looks similar as the line progresses for blending – I hope they keep this for whatever comes next year! If the normal Apex comes, I’d be so interested in a DCB / Standard / Pro (maybe) combo!~
Listening now, love the OEM tech talks.
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The convo about keeping the looks similar as the line progresses for blending – I hope they keep this for whatever comes next year! If the normal Apex comes, I’d be so interested in a DCB / Standard / Pro (maybe) combo!~
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I like the comment this line was focused a player’s profile and I think what we see shows that.
For a brief second I was doubting my want of the players combo. ?
Haven’t made it the whole way through yet but Just dan and zack talking about the new irons makes me wonder if PW will be the highest I will go with the MB… I like a little bit of forgiveness. It gets me hyped for getting fit and really figuring out a good bag set up in December
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712706, member: 19877″]
I like the comment this line was focused a player’s profile and I think what we see shows that.
For a brief second I was doubting my want of the players combo. ?
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oh totally was a player’s profile, I just hope they continue that progression into normal golfers 😉 profile
altering the sole bounce to account for toe droop when the faster players swing. That’s a detail, like ultra low torque putter shafts that blows my mind happens. But clearly night sped cameras prove it’s important. Very cool to heard the design is there to account for it.
[QUOTE=”Briton G, post: 11712708, member: 63796″]
Haven’t made it the whole way through yet but Just dan and zack talking about the new irons makes me wonder if PW will be the highest I will go with the MB… I like a little bit of forgiveness. It gets me hyped for getting fit and really figuring out a good bag set up in December
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I will try to find somewhere to hit the Pro line before December, but won’t make any final decisions until we get the fitting in CA. I could go so many different directions with the setup though.
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[I][B]altering the sole bounce to account for toe droop when the faster players swing[/B][/I]. That’s a detail, like ultra low torque putter shafts that blows my mind happens. But clearly night sped cameras prove it’s important. Very cool to heard the design is there to account for it.
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That comment definitely caught my attention.
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712706, member: 19877″]
I like the comment this line was focused a player’s profile and I think what we see shows that.
For a brief second I was doubting my want of the players combo. ?
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Cap, you’re a baller. i don’t think you can be a baller without being a player.
combo is safe.
It’s things like the discussion about the urethane microspheres and how they differentiate Callaway from other foams with regard to similar feel but better ball speeds – this is the stuff I love and makes so much sense… I can’t wait to dig into all this tech
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It’s things like the discussion about the urethane microspheres and how they differentiate Callaway from other foams with regard to similar feel but better ball speeds – this is the stuff I love and makes so much sense… I can’t wait to dig into all this tech
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There is nothing worse than flyers on good shots. It is awesome hearing Callaway’s focus on eliminating those.
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 11712730, member: 10545″]
I will try to find somewhere to hit the Pro line before December, but won’t make any final decisions until we get the fitting in CA. I could go so many different directions with the setup though.
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I think my buddy is getting the MBs so I may have to go visit him and hit his.
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I think my buddy is getting the MBs so I may have to go visit him and hit his.
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I’ve got a CB/MB combo set now. Not sure if that’s the direction I willl go with this line, but it’s on the table.
Nothing like an unexpected visit and a request to hit brand new clubs.
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oh totally was a player’s profile, I just hope they continue that progression into normal golfers 😉 profile
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Or we just need to get better.
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Or we just need to get better.
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[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 11712741, member: 10545″]
There is nothing worse than flyers on good shots. It is awesome hearing Callaway’s focus on eliminating those.
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Definitely, the consistency will be fantastic for those that consistently deliver the club!
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 11712752, member: 19877″]
Or we just need to get better.
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That’s what I did. There were just too many pretty irons for where my game was ?????
From what Zack was saying… it sounds like you will see a lot of CB’s in the bag. Calling it the workhorse
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From what Zack was saying… it sounds like you will see a lot of CB’s in the bag. Calling it the workhorse
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or at the very least a combo set.
It makes sense considering what the TCB did.
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What if I have already hit them. ????
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Must not want to hit then again
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11712773, member: 2320″]
or at the very least a combo set.
It makes sense considering what the TCB did.
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He may have convinced me to look into a combo with more CBs/Pros and then maybe UW by the way he talked about it along with anyone that gamed the past UW
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#TeamUW
i think I’m going to be team short FW. So that aspect and neutral flight (lessen lefts) has the UW back in let’s fit and see camp.
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if these are the only sides…
#TeamUW
i think I’m going to be team short FW. So that aspect and neutral flight (lessen lefts) has the UW back in let’s fit and see camp.
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From the hybrid side, I think so – Paradym stands alone. It’s U-dub or Super Hybrid.