Are you a short game wizard? The type of player which demands maximum versatility in order to command the highest level of precision into and around the greens?
The safe bet for most of us mere mortals kicking it around our local courses and muni’s is the answer to that is a pretty quick no. If you are, however, a master of all things short game then feel free to dive into any one of our thousands of other articles as this one may not be for you.
This review is about breaking down walls and preconceptions via the cavity back wedge, and no one has been committed to doing just that as much as Cleveland Golf has. So, when we got the chance to get both versions of their new CBZ wedge design which has evolved the concept inside and out, we naturally wanted to bring all the info and feedback to each and every one of you.

Quick Take
Without a doubt, the best cavity back wedge design yet from Cleveland Golf. Yes, the biggest star is the implementation of Z-Alloy into cavity driven wedge design, but that was simply the start. From a feedback perspective, both the standard and full-face high-toe versions are excellent, providing a feel which flows seamlessly into and with the companies RTZ’s. More importantly though, the emphasis on face design as well as sole grind makes them possibly most versatile cavity back wedge on the market.
Filling the Wedgucational Cavity
Sure, that title is a bit on the campy side of things, but there will be no apologies as it sums up what not only Cleveland, but every single golf manufacturer out there is facing when it comes to getting people to try a more forgiving wedge. Clearly, there is a disconnect when 87% of golfers are playing an iron which emphasizes forgiveness, but most continue to automatically put a set of bladed wedges into the bag without consideration of what one, or more, cavity driven designs could provide for them on the course.
In that battle, however, Cleveland Golf has led the charge in trying to get golfers to think of their wedges in the same way that they do their irons. Sure, it is a shot across the bow at how most of us select our wedges, most of the time just opting for what we do out of habit or fear of change more than anything else. But the goal is to break down barriers, and just as once upon a time cavity back irons were seen as blasphemous to traditionalists for fears of sacrificing versatility and workability, wedges are currently undergoing that same battle.

Although they were not the first to do a cavity back wedge design, Cleveland Golf has certainly been the most committed to not only offering them but continuing to innovate and evolve the concept. The company dipped their toes into the water way back into the CG wedge era, but it was with the CBX in 2017 that they jumped all the way into the deep end. Since then, there have been multiple iterations and evolutions with many receiving extremely positive feedback from golfers everywhere. This year, however, marked the first version of the CBZ wedge.
When Cleveland Golf announced their release of the RTZ bladed wedges driven by an all new base material that they created with Z-Alloy (you can read about that here) we here at THP couldn’t help but think about other prospective applications. Sure, many minds went right to irons, but the potential impact into their cavity back wedges was clear given what the material does in terms of not only feel and durability, but mass savings.

So, the company went to work, redesigning the concept, and creating the CBZ. With a 94% larger Gelback TPU internal insert combined with the benefits of Z-Alloy, these wedges look to bring not just better feel to the table but also increased spin consistency and efficiency as well. As if that wasn’t enough, heavy attention also went into the looks and sole grind options available.
We got each in hand for a closer look and put both the 50V (Standard) and 54C (Full Face) through their paces.
Cleveland CBZ 50V
Visually, the standard groove models of the CBZ’s are check all of the boxed. At setup, it doesn’t look like a cavity back and the overall shaping hides everything incredibly well with the topline, leading edge, as well as hosel transition looking very much like a standard Cleveland wedge. Add in the aggressive face/groove milling, and when you put it down next to a 50 degree RTZ, it was nearly impossible to differentiate.


Beyond that, the performance here was stellar. With it being a gap wedge loft, it was fun to be able to treat it as both a full swing wedge as well as still using it for pitches and chips. The V-Grind takes material from both the leading and trail edges to allow for enough bounce to bring more forgiveness but preventing any digging into and out of the soil on full swings.
The feedback through impact was shockingly good, the slightest bit more muted than the RTZ’s are for this reviewer, but the closest to their flagship wedge line that Cleveland Golf has gotten so far. You do keep a “good” feel across more of the face than the RTZ, which is what should happen.

As you can see in the data below, speed nor launch was an issue, and the overall spin on both full and 50 yard shots made for impressive precision with no issues at all holding greens. Honestly, even if you don’t want to give up the versatility of a bladed wedge in sand and lob lofts, the CBZ in a gap wedge is well worth trying, especially if you ever use that club on full swings.
Cleveland Golf CBZ 54C Full Face
While the company is declaring the Full Face as an additional offering within the core CBZ wedge lineup, it is still a different animal in a few ways. Foremost, visually, the size here is notably bigger, which is expected given the Full Face grooves, but it is the altered High Toe shaping which really shifts things.
Now, that does not mean it is bad, quite the opposite actually as like its sibling, every radius on each clubhead makes for a fantastic visual. Unsurprisingly, if you like the High Toe and Full Face look, you will love this, if you prefer the traditional shaping, then it may not be your cup of tea.


In terms of feel/sound, the Full Face feedback during testing was practically identical to that of the traditional shaping. There is the same dense nature to things across a broader margin of the face that you get in the other model, but here the added groove extension takes it up a notch for those that may visit the toe every now and again.
While the feel is excellent, it is the C-Grind here that shined the most during testing. You see, this is the most evolved and versatile grind that this reviewer has tested on any Cleveland cavity back wedge yet. The softer leading edge helps get into the turf, but that rear crescent provided a lot more greenside versatility than in the past.

While they have always been good from bunkers, it was the tight greenside lies that surprised the most, allowing a shocking amount of versatility in a wildly more forgiving design than the standard RTZ. As was with the 50, you can see in the data here that spin was not an issue, hitting right around 9,000 RPM on average for full swings. From full swings to those 75 yard shots, the ability to take dead aim at targets is certainly all there.
Head to Head – CBZ Wedge vs RTZ Wedge
Of course, we also know that it is natural to be a bit skeptical of big changes, and to some people the idea of a cavity back wedge in their bag is indeed a substantial change. Often times the reasoning for not giving a design like the CBZ wedge a chance comes back to the notion that they will launch too high, spin too little, or not offer the same level of consistency. To put that to the test, during the data collection for this review, numbers on the 50 and 54 degree CBZ’s were also recorded.

When taking a look at the averages above, no doubt that some will hyper-fixate on the spin being lower in the CBZ wedge, but in doing so miss the big picture. What exactly is that? It is that the differences are much more minor than most would ever have believed coming into this comparison. In fact, the variance is so minor it might just surprise you when stepping back to see the overall picture the data is painting. The reality is not as much is being left out there as some want to believe, especially when you then add in the increased playability on shots all across the face with the CBZ’s.
The Details – CBZ Wedge
To be clear, we aren’t sitting here saying that everyone should move to the CBZ wedge, individual fit and needs will always vary based on the golfer as well as skill level. However, it is time for the lack of willingness to try cavity back wedges based on what they used to be, to go away. These are the best iteration yet, and also the most widely playable.
Cleveland Golf offers the CBZ wedge in standard face grooves (44-60 degrees) as well as Full-Face (50-60 degrees) to ensure there is something for everyone. The standard shaft pairing is the KBS Hi Rev 2.0 shaft, though there are graphite KBS options available as well.
The new Cleveland CBZ wedges are priced at $179.99. You can order them directly from Cleveland Golf with full customization options available, and they are also available at retailers worldwide.





Nice writeup [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER], the CBZ wedges look really nice.
I was looking at the RTZ yesterday at Carls. On the next rack were the CBZ. It would appear from casual observation that in both lines the soles are narrower and more versatile than they were a couple generations ago. I play Srixon irons and am familiar with the V Sole, and it works very well for my high spin, steep, ditch digging swing. I dont recall my RTX’s having a V sole, but may well be mistaken. But the sole was so wide and cumbersome they ended up on the rack. Ill have to look tonight. I still have a set of first gen CBX’s, and the sole sure looks better to me now…
Great write-up, [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER].
I’ve been a Cleveland CB loyalist for about two years now, and it would take a small army to get me to give up my Cleveland CB wedges.
After some initial conversations about these, I couldn’t resist comparing the new CBZ line to the CBX ZipCores I had been using, and the CBZ definitely doesn’t let the line down. Shot consistency and feel both saw noticeable gains with the Z-Alloy upgrade, and forgiveness, as always, is unparalleled.
I’ve been running a fairly standard setup with a 50° and 54°, along with a full-face 60°. I normally avoid full swings with my 60°, but over the last couple of weeks, I’ve been experimenting more, and the CBZ forgiveness makes even full 60° swings come off with ease.
To me, the Cleveland CB line—and specifically the CBZ—is basically a cheat code for wedges. I plan to continue testing the new CBZ this winter and have some plans for a more direct head-to-head comparison against my CBX wedges in the coming weeks. I’ve got some Project X Catalyst Spinner 80 shaft pulls on the way in the new year, which should make it an even fight between the two wedge sets.
If you are looking for a more forgiving wedge game, especially if you are a slower swing speed player who needs to take full swings with your wedges, make sure to give the CBZ line a try.
These are sooooo clean!
And the spin loss is negligible, really great stuff from Cleveland!
CB wedges are always something I consider when looking at building out a wedge setup, mostly because I don’t use my GW and SW around the green – they are almost exclusively used for full and flighted approach shots – so why wouldn’t I want that little touch of added forgiveness?
Cleveland has sort of blazed the trail on this over the last several years, with Mizuno and Cobra being the only other two I can think of who currently offer great CB wedges.
Great article, [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER]
[QUOTE=”Coulter, post: 13708242, member: 84628″]
These are sooooo clean!
And the spin loss is negligible, really great stuff from Cleveland!
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Yes, if you struggle with wedge play, this is the move. It simplifies things but still gives you room to grow, and you have a comparable feel in the RTZ to transtion too if you “outgrow” the CB line
[QUOTE=”GolfSquatch, post: 13708258, member: 85082″]
Yes, if you struggle with wedge play, this is the move. It simplifies things but still gives you room to grow, and you have a comparable feel in the RTZ to transtion too if you “outgrow” the CB line
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Do you really outgrow them though? I mean what shots can you take with the RTZ that you can’t with the CBZ?
The CBZ looks really good at address! I love having a CB wedge at the gap spot, and it looks like this would be an excellent option
[QUOTE=”Coulter, post: 13708261, member: 84628″]
Do you really outgrow them though? I mean what shots can you take with the RTZ that you can’t with the CBZ?
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To me its when you stop taking full swings. The funny thing is I was getting there with the 60 and had stopped using it full swing regularly, but with the full face and with the new CBZ I find the 60 for 80 yard as a full swing for me is being a bit more realizable then a 3/4 54 or 1/2 50 which are my other options for that.
I always see the full benefit of CB tech coming in the full swing
Good article [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] ! I appreciate the data table inclusion and comparison.
While I haven’t jumped into trying the CBZ wedges, I do have 5 CBX wedges in the backup stash. I expect the CBZ are better, to be honest. I really want to give these a try in 2026.
Cleveland does not miss here. You give up very little going to these wedges, unless you need some super specific grind or bounce. These wedges were as close to automatic as I’ve ever been with dispersion.
Great write up and some clean looking wedges!
Great review [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] I’ve games the Smart Sole wedges in the past and although I love the Mizuno T-22s I have in the bag I’m excited for my 2 CBZ wedges to arrive tomorrow. I need the help and with my past experience with Cleveland wedges and this review I believe these will work extremely well.
The world needs more forgiving (and full face) wedge options. Happy to see these.
Glad everyone is enjoying the review!
They stand out enough that it’s one I knew really needed to be written, the evolution of Cleveland’s CB line has been really fun to not just see, but to hit each model over the years as well.
It’s a great article [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] and the wedge is very exciting. Z Alloy in a cavity back should garner a lot of attention.
But how has no one commented on “Wedgucational” yet???
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 13708669, member: 75272″]
It’s a great article [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] and the wedge is very exciting. Z Alloy in a cavity back should garner a lot of attention.
But how has no one commented on “Wedgucational” yet???
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Some just like to look at the pictures hahahaha
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13708679, member: 1579″]
Some just like to look at the pictures hahahaha
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It was even in big bold letters!
You mention feel blending seamlessly to RTZ in the article. Is that something you think Cleveland recommends? I know a lot of golfers could benefit from a cb style wedge in full swing, but is wedge set blending something Cleveland is designing for? Kinda cool if so.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13708652, member: 1579″]
Glad everyone is enjoying the review!
They stand out enough that it’s one I knew really needed to be written, the evolution of Cleveland’s CB line has been really fun to not just see, but to hit each model over the years as well.
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Thanks for giving them props the cb wedges are too often overlooked
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 13708713, member: 75272″]
It was even in big bold letters!
You mention feel blending seamlessly to RTZ in the article. Is that something you think Cleveland recommends? I know a lot of golfers could benefit from a cb style wedge in full swing, but is wedge set blending something Cleveland is designing for? Kinda cool if so.
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I think it’s something they’ve considered.
One of the points I think people lose is that you don’t have to play a CB Wedge everywhere. But, what if you played one in the spot(s) where you full swing your wedges? Why not blend the two?
We as golfers when it comes to wedges are far too all or nothing.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13709045, member: 1579″]
I think it’s something they’ve considered.
One of the points I think people lose is that you don’t have to play a CB Wedge everywhere. But, what if you played one in the spot(s) where you full swing your wedges? Why not blend the two?
We as golfers when it comes to wedges are far too all or nothing.
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Yes, this is something I was really thinking about for next season and I still might experiment with it. That said, since I went full-face with the 60°, I’ve actually enjoyed it quite a bit—at least indoors. Hitting it full swing, it’s been a very consistent club for me.
I still need to see how it reacts on real grass, but right now it’s a spot-on 80-yard club for me with a full swing.
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] any comparisons from the CBZ Full face to the RTZ adapt? I’m curious how the bounce numbers / grind change across these two.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13709045, member: 1579″]
I think it’s something they’ve considered.
One of the points I think people lose is that you don’t have to play a CB Wedge everywhere. But, what if you played one in the spot(s) where you full swing your wedges? Why not blend the two?
We as golfers when it comes to wedges are far too all or nothing.
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I have a follow up question but I think it warrants a larger discussion so give me a moment to start a new thread.
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] very fortuitous timing on this article!!! I had just posted on the RTZ thread that I am probably going that direction on my 54°, but was looking for some guidance on why I might consider a CBZ for the 50°…then whammo. This article drops.
Get out of my head!!!! ?
Most definitely that 50° slot is almost large majority full swing for me with a few partials. Not a whole lot of instances where I would open up that face and need that versatility (just go to my 54 for that).
So this pretty much makes all the sense in the world.
[QUOTE=”Papa 3-Putts, post: 13708257, member: 83388″]
CB wedges are always something I consider when looking at building out a wedge setup, mostly because I don’t use my GW and SW around the green – they are almost exclusively used for full and flighted approach shots – so why wouldn’t I want that little touch of added forgiveness?
Cleveland has sort of blazed the trail on this over the last several years, with Mizuno and Cobra being the only other two I can think of who currently offer great CB wedges.
Great article, [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER]
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Callaway offers one as well. Nice wedges but they launch too high for my game.
[QUOTE=”1860VS, post: 13709176, member: 71354″]
Callaway offers one as well. Nice wedges but they launch too high for my game.
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I need to get some swings on the new one. I did have one of the older versions that I gave an extended trial, and preferred the CBX, but it was a very nice wedge for sure
[QUOTE=”1860VS, post: 13709176, member: 71354″]
Callaway offers one as well. Nice wedges but they launch too high for my game.
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I tried the prior iteration of their CB wedges a few years ago, and I didn’t really like them.
Maybe it would be different if I just had them at the GW/SW slots and not in the LW like I did then.
[QUOTE=”amarkabove, post: 13708669, member: 75272″]
It’s a great article [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] and the wedge is very exciting. Z Alloy in a cavity back should garner a lot of attention.
But how has no one commented on “Wedgucational” yet???
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I am feeling thoroughly wedgucated! I really want to try these. I’ve been thinking about going back to a CB 54 for a while. I use it as a full swing club and for runners around the green so the added forgiveness seems worth it to me. These look fantastic to boot
[QUOTE=”1860VS, post: 13709176, member: 71354″]
Callaway offers one as well. Nice wedges but they launch too high for my game.
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Very different than these imo. These are really working to bridge the gap of nuance between CB and bladed wedge, where Callaway’s are entirely about forgiveness and launch above all.
[QUOTE=”E.Appleton, post: 13709198, member: 80462″]
I am feeling thoroughly wedgucated! I really want to try these. I’ve been thinking about going back to a CB 54 for a while. I use it as a full swing club and for runners around the green so the added forgiveness seems worth it to me. These look fantastic to boot
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Yeah these look tremendous at address and look very good next to the RTZ. It’s not until I hooded the face a bit when it becomes evident which is the CBZ vs the RTZ.
Well I know what just shot up to the top of my “must try in 2026” list.
[QUOTE=”russtopher, post: 13709229, member: 14253″]
Well I know what just shot up to the top of my “must try in 2026” list.
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They’re really fun, let us know what you think when you do get to give them a go!
so hopefully this will be an appropriate place to ask these things..
1) you talk about gap wedge loft being able to be used in not full swing. It never even occurred to me that some wedges could not be used for partial swings. When/how is the divide? What do I not know about wedges that I should that would show this to be a bad question?
2) My last fitting for wedges they put me in a different brand and at that they put me in the high toes. The 50 degree worked great, the 54 degree produces an incredible number of shanks. You talk about the high toe…for an equipment imbecile such as myself. what is the point of the high toe? is it something in how I should swing or something in turf interaction? I hear the phrase and honestly don’t know what it means.
an aside here…your comment on people getting lost in the spin I think is undersold. I catch myself doing that sometimes, getting lost in certain numbers instead of results. So thank you for that.
3) While I am not currently looking for wedges, it is not impossible I will go stir crazy this winter and decide wedges would be a great place to change things in the bag. With the wide variety of fitter skill that seems imputed by the conversation at large, what questions should I have for my fitter to ensure I am getting the most help I can in a fitting, specifically a wedge fitting?
thank you for the time and effort in the article and hopefully these questions aren’t things people are shocked I am ignorant of. I have always just let the fitters do their job and gone in just knowing what result I wanted so I know shockingly little about equipment and will be the first to admit that.
I’ve been a fan of Cleveland’s CBX design since I first saw it and really like what they’ve done here with the CBZ. Long been a believer that the grind they do to the sole helps give these more playability than people initially think and I like that they are mixing up the soles a bit here. That C on the full face could be pretty deadly in the right hands.
Oh and to answer the first question, no I am not a short game wizard.
Signed,
Dean DeHufflepuff
[QUOTE=”darthweasel, post: 13709330, member: 32906″]
so hopefully this will be an appropriate place to ask these things..
1) you talk about gap wedge loft being able to be used in not full swing. It never even occurred to me that some wedges could not be used for partial swings. When/how is the divide? What do I not know about wedges that I should that would show this to be a bad question?
2) My last fitting for wedges they put me in a different brand and at that they put me in the high toes. The 50 degree worked great, the 54 degree produces an incredible number of shanks. You talk about the high toe…for an equipment imbecile such as myself. what is the point of the high toe? is it something in how I should swing or something in turf interaction? I hear the phrase and honestly don’t know what it means.
an aside here…your comment on people getting lost in the spin I think is undersold. I catch myself doing that sometimes, getting lost in certain numbers instead of results. So thank you for that.
3) While I am not currently looking for wedges, it is not impossible I will go stir crazy this winter and decide wedges would be a great place to change things in the bag. With the wide variety of fitter skill that seems imputed by the conversation at large, what questions should I have for my fitter to ensure I am getting the most help I can in a fitting, specifically a wedge fitting?
thank you for the time and effort in the article and hopefully these questions aren’t things people are shocked I am ignorant of. I have always just let the fitters do their job and gone in just knowing what result I wanted so I know shockingly little about equipment and will be the first to admit that.
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Not bad questions at all! There’s no such thing!
Let me feed these crazy kids of mine and I’ll get on my laptop and give you a thorough reply
[QUOTE=”Coulter, post: 13708242, member: 84628″]
These are sooooo clean!
And the spin loss is negligible, really great stuff from Cleveland!
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yeah man that spin retention is really strong isn’t it?
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 13709344, member: 782″]
I’ve been a fan of Cleveland’s CBX design since I first saw it and really like what they’ve done here with the CBZ. Long been a believer that the grind they do to the sole helps give these more playability than people initially think and I like that they are mixing up the soles a bit here. That C on the full face could be pretty deadly in the right hands.
Oh and to answer the first question, no I am not a short game wizard.
Signed,
Dean DeHufflepuff
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Me debating between the RTZ Adapt and the CBZ Full Face but scared of the 10 vs 8 bounce. o_O
[QUOTE=”Chow, post: 13709399, member: 80528″]
Me debating between the RTZ Adapt and the CBZ Full Face but scared of the 10 vs 8 bounce. o_O
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What’s scary there for you specifically?
I’m not sure actually. Looking at pictures of both they appear similar enough. Wondering if anyone has real life experience with both.
I really need to get 1 of these asap
[QUOTE=”Chow, post: 13709399, member: 80528″]
Me debating between the RTZ Adapt and the CBZ Full Face but scared of the 10 vs 8 bounce. o_O
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Nothing to be afraid of with that Adapt grind. 8 is just a number, it’s so playable and versatile. But if you are worried, that CBZ might give a little extra comfort.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 13709494, member: 782″]
Nothing to be afraid of with that Adapt grind. 8 is just a number, it’s so playable and versatile. But if you are worried, that CBZ might give a little extra comfort.
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Haha more reverse. I’m used to my 60 Low Bounce. Scared of going too high.
[QUOTE=”Chow, post: 13709498, member: 80528″]
Haha more reverse. I’m used to my 60 Low Bounce. Scared of going too high.
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ok then scratch that and reverse it.
Debating over 2 degrees of bounce seems pretty trivial the more I think on it.
The grinds are indeed similar. The shapes are similar. So I think it really is up to what technology package I want.
Nice review [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER]. I’ve been playing the CBZ wedges for a couple months (54°S Conventional and 58°C Full Face) and am pretty enamored with them. The Z-Alloy imparts great feel and the added forgiveness is a big plus, especially for full swings.
I was playing Jaws Raw before these (54°S and 58°J Full Toe), and there’s no shot I could pull off with them that I can’t pull off with the CBZs. I was pretty impressed the first time I took them to the range and was having an absolute blast hitting full swing flop shots off of mats – even on such a tight lie, the grind/bounce combination allowed me to get under the ball and pop them way up in the air. If anything, the CBZs are [I]more[/I] versatile for me because I’m a lot more confident full swinging them. In the past I would almost never use my 58° as a full swing club, but I don’t even think twice about full swinging the CBZ 58 Full Face.
Maybe the thing I’m most impressed with is the consistency in distance. My dispersion isn’t great (mid handicap, lol), but I can stand on the range and hit the same yardage over and over again – no surprises where I “accidentally” catch the sweet spot and it flies 10 yards further, and they do a good job of covering for me even when I don’t hit them perfectly.
I don’t feel that I’ve given up anything by switching to the CBZs, from full swing to short game, but I gained more forgiveness and great feel so they’re easily a net positive for me.
[QUOTE=”Chow, post: 13709508, member: 80528″]
Debating over 2 degrees of bounce seems pretty trivial the more I think on it.
The grinds are indeed similar. The shapes are similar. So I think it really is up to what technology package I want.
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You are correct, that really is what it comes down to. The nice thing is with Cleveland, you can’t really go wrong.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13709202, member: 1579″]
Very different than these imo. These are really working to bridge the gap of nuance between CB and bladed wedge, where Callaway’s are entirely about forgiveness and launch above all.
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I’d strongly agree that they’re very different. I tried the original version of the Callaway CB and was not a fan at all. To me the Callaway CBs are like having a higher lofted set wedge, whereas the CBZs are a true specialty wedge, just with a cavity back. More grind/bounce options, Full Face (and high toe) versions, much better versatility and feel.
I’m a Callaway homer and they always get first shot at my bag, but their CB wedges were a miss for me.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13709577, member: 3386″]
I’d strongly agree that they’re very different. I tried the original version of the Callaway CB and was not a fan at all. To me the Callaway CBs are like having a higher lofted set wedge, whereas the CBZs are a true specialty wedge, just with a cavity back. More grind/bounce options, Full Face (and high toe) versions, much better versatility and feel.
I’m a Callaway homer and they always get first shot at my bag, but their CB wedges were a miss for me.
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It’s funny isn’t it? They are somewhat a similar style, but just go about it a bit differently and that comes across when you try them. In that CB Wedge space, Cleveland still reigns IMO. Now I’ll fully admit that I have not been a big Callaway wedge fan, but they’ve made some really good strides over the past several releases.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 13709662, member: 782″]
It’s funny isn’t it? They are somewhat a similar style, but just go about it a bit differently and that comes across when you try them. In that CB Wedge space, Cleveland still reigns IMO. Now I’ll fully admit that I have not been a big Callaway wedge fan, but they’ve made some really good strides over the past several releases.
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Cleveland has made huge strides in the CB wedge space. The last ones I had in the bag were the 588 RTX CB back around 2013 or so, and I wasn’t much of a fan of those. I thought the feel was pretty hard and didn’t see a lot in the way of forgiveness. The CBZ are light years beyond them in every way, they very well might be the best feeling wedges I’ve ever hit.
[QUOTE=”darthweasel, post: 13709330, member: 32906″]
so hopefully this will be an appropriate place to ask these things..
1) you talk about gap wedge loft being able to be used in not full swing. It never even occurred to me that some wedges could not be used for partial swings. When/how is the divide? What do I not know about wedges that I should that would show this to be a bad question?
2) My last fitting for wedges they put me in a different brand and at that they put me in the high toes. The 50 degree worked great, the 54 degree produces an incredible number of shanks. You talk about the high toe…for an equipment imbecile such as myself. what is the point of the high toe? is it something in how I should swing or something in turf interaction? I hear the phrase and honestly don’t know what it means.
an aside here…your comment on people getting lost in the spin I think is undersold. I catch myself doing that sometimes, getting lost in certain numbers instead of results. So thank you for that.
3) While I am not currently looking for wedges, it is not impossible I will go stir crazy this winter and decide wedges would be a great place to change things in the bag. With the wide variety of fitter skill that seems imputed by the conversation at large, what questions should I have for my fitter to ensure I am getting the most help I can in a fitting, specifically a wedge fitting?
thank you for the time and effort in the article and hopefully these questions aren’t things people are shocked I am ignorant of. I have always just let the fitters do their job and gone in just knowing what result I wanted so I know shockingly little about equipment and will be the first to admit that.
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1) I’m not saying that they can’t be used for partials, it’s more that in that spot specifically the club is usually much more a full swing club for amateurs compared to sand and lob wedges.
Likewise though, some CB wedges have been extremely limited in versatility through wider soles with very straight forward designs and grinds, I think that’s still stuck in the head of some people when reviews of these types of wedges come up. Cleveland has gone all in on improving versatility each and every iteration, and it’s paid off.
2) It’s primarily a visual preference for some imo with the shaping being different than traditional teardrop looks. Add in the full face grooves and it’s more visual surface area for comfort, in the hands of the right player. There’s no impact on delivery/shanks though, that’s a user thing.
3) Biggest thing imo is being honest with how you choose to play your wedge game with what shots you like to hit, as well as where you struggle. Course conditions matter to talk about too, especially if you’re going to an indoor fitting.
I hope that all helps? If not, please don’t hesitate to expound more, I’m here to help!
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It’s funny isn’t it? They are somewhat a similar style, but just go about it a bit differently and that comes across when you try them. In that CB Wedge space, Cleveland still reigns IMO. Now I’ll fully admit that I have not been a big Callaway wedge fan, but they’ve made some really good strides over the past several releases.
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Agree.
I think Cobra has actually gotten closest, but Cleveland is still by far the leader in the CB wedge designs.