Are you a short game wizard? The type of player which demands maximum versatility in order to command the highest level of precision into and around the greens?
The safe bet for most of us mere mortals kicking it around our local courses and muni’s is the answer to that is a pretty quick no. If you are, however, a master of all things short game then feel free to dive into any one of our thousands of other articles as this one may not be for you.
This review is about breaking down walls and preconceptions via the cavity back wedge, and no one has been committed to doing just that as much as Cleveland Golf has. So, when we got the chance to get both versions of their new CBZ wedge design which has evolved the concept inside and out, we naturally wanted to bring all the info and feedback to each and every one of you.

Quick Take
Without a doubt, the best cavity back wedge design yet from Cleveland Golf. Yes, the biggest star is the implementation of Z-Alloy into cavity driven wedge design, but that was simply the start. From a feedback perspective, both the standard and full-face high-toe versions are excellent, providing a feel which flows seamlessly into and with the companies RTZ’s. More importantly though, the emphasis on face design as well as sole grind makes them possibly most versatile cavity back wedge on the market.
Filling the Wedgucational Cavity
Sure, that title is a bit on the campy side of things, but there will be no apologies as it sums up what not only Cleveland, but every single golf manufacturer out there is facing when it comes to getting people to try a more forgiving wedge. Clearly, there is a disconnect when 87% of golfers are playing an iron which emphasizes forgiveness, but most continue to automatically put a set of bladed wedges into the bag without consideration of what one, or more, cavity driven designs could provide for them on the course.
In that battle, however, Cleveland Golf has led the charge in trying to get golfers to think of their wedges in the same way that they do their irons. Sure, it is a shot across the bow at how most of us select our wedges, most of the time just opting for what we do out of habit or fear of change more than anything else. But the goal is to break down barriers, and just as once upon a time cavity back irons were seen as blasphemous to traditionalists for fears of sacrificing versatility and workability, wedges are currently undergoing that same battle.

Although they were not the first to do a cavity back wedge design, Cleveland Golf has certainly been the most committed to not only offering them but continuing to innovate and evolve the concept. The company dipped their toes into the water way back into the CG wedge era, but it was with the CBX in 2017 that they jumped all the way into the deep end. Since then, there have been multiple iterations and evolutions with many receiving extremely positive feedback from golfers everywhere. This year, however, marked the first version of the CBZ wedge.
When Cleveland Golf announced their release of the RTZ bladed wedges driven by an all new base material that they created with Z-Alloy (you can read about that here) we here at THP couldn’t help but think about other prospective applications. Sure, many minds went right to irons, but the potential impact into their cavity back wedges was clear given what the material does in terms of not only feel and durability, but mass savings.

So, the company went to work, redesigning the concept, and creating the CBZ. With a 94% larger Gelback TPU internal insert combined with the benefits of Z-Alloy, these wedges look to bring not just better feel to the table but also increased spin consistency and efficiency as well. As if that wasn’t enough, heavy attention also went into the looks and sole grind options available.
We got each in hand for a closer look and put both the 50V (Standard) and 54C (Full Face) through their paces.
Cleveland CBZ 50V
Visually, the standard groove models of the CBZ’s are check all of the boxed. At setup, it doesn’t look like a cavity back and the overall shaping hides everything incredibly well with the topline, leading edge, as well as hosel transition looking very much like a standard Cleveland wedge. Add in the aggressive face/groove milling, and when you put it down next to a 50 degree RTZ, it was nearly impossible to differentiate.


Beyond that, the performance here was stellar. With it being a gap wedge loft, it was fun to be able to treat it as both a full swing wedge as well as still using it for pitches and chips. The V-Grind takes material from both the leading and trail edges to allow for enough bounce to bring more forgiveness but preventing any digging into and out of the soil on full swings.
The feedback through impact was shockingly good, the slightest bit more muted than the RTZ’s are for this reviewer, but the closest to their flagship wedge line that Cleveland Golf has gotten so far. You do keep a “good” feel across more of the face than the RTZ, which is what should happen.

As you can see in the data below, speed nor launch was an issue, and the overall spin on both full and 50 yard shots made for impressive precision with no issues at all holding greens. Honestly, even if you don’t want to give up the versatility of a bladed wedge in sand and lob lofts, the CBZ in a gap wedge is well worth trying, especially if you ever use that club on full swings.
Cleveland Golf CBZ 54C Full Face
While the company is declaring the Full Face as an additional offering within the core CBZ wedge lineup, it is still a different animal in a few ways. Foremost, visually, the size here is notably bigger, which is expected given the Full Face grooves, but it is the altered High Toe shaping which really shifts things.
Now, that does not mean it is bad, quite the opposite actually as like its sibling, every radius on each clubhead makes for a fantastic visual. Unsurprisingly, if you like the High Toe and Full Face look, you will love this, if you prefer the traditional shaping, then it may not be your cup of tea.


In terms of feel/sound, the Full Face feedback during testing was practically identical to that of the traditional shaping. There is the same dense nature to things across a broader margin of the face that you get in the other model, but here the added groove extension takes it up a notch for those that may visit the toe every now and again.
While the feel is excellent, it is the C-Grind here that shined the most during testing. You see, this is the most evolved and versatile grind that this reviewer has tested on any Cleveland cavity back wedge yet. The softer leading edge helps get into the turf, but that rear crescent provided a lot more greenside versatility than in the past.

While they have always been good from bunkers, it was the tight greenside lies that surprised the most, allowing a shocking amount of versatility in a wildly more forgiving design than the standard RTZ. As was with the 50, you can see in the data here that spin was not an issue, hitting right around 9,000 RPM on average for full swings. From full swings to those 75 yard shots, the ability to take dead aim at targets is certainly all there.
Head to Head – CBZ Wedge vs RTZ Wedge
Of course, we also know that it is natural to be a bit skeptical of big changes, and to some people the idea of a cavity back wedge in their bag is indeed a substantial change. Often times the reasoning for not giving a design like the CBZ wedge a chance comes back to the notion that they will launch too high, spin too little, or not offer the same level of consistency. To put that to the test, during the data collection for this review, numbers on the 50 and 54 degree CBZ’s were also recorded.

When taking a look at the averages above, no doubt that some will hyper-fixate on the spin being lower in the CBZ wedge, but in doing so miss the big picture. What exactly is that? It is that the differences are much more minor than most would ever have believed coming into this comparison. In fact, the variance is so minor it might just surprise you when stepping back to see the overall picture the data is painting. The reality is not as much is being left out there as some want to believe, especially when you then add in the increased playability on shots all across the face with the CBZ’s.
The Details – CBZ Wedge
To be clear, we aren’t sitting here saying that everyone should move to the CBZ wedge, individual fit and needs will always vary based on the golfer as well as skill level. However, it is time for the lack of willingness to try cavity back wedges based on what they used to be, to go away. These are the best iteration yet, and also the most widely playable.
Cleveland Golf offers the CBZ wedge in standard face grooves (44-60 degrees) as well as Full-Face (50-60 degrees) to ensure there is something for everyone. The standard shaft pairing is the KBS Hi Rev 2.0 shaft, though there are graphite KBS options available as well.
The new Cleveland CBZ wedges are priced at $179.99. You can order them directly from Cleveland Golf with full customization options available, and they are also available at retailers worldwide.





[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13768185, member: 3386″]
I didn’t try the CBZs with steel so I can’t directly compare, but I ordered mine with 65g Recoil Darts and love the feel. Very smooth/soft, but feels solid at the same time.
Your observation vs Vokeys seems to be on target – my buddy who tried mine and bought a set the other day has been playing graphite shafted Vokeys for several years and he commented on how plush the CBZs feel.
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And I am not even saying they felt harsh in the steel shaft, they still felt good just with the Graphite shafts, it turns it up to eleven on the feel meter.
What with all the excitement around the Srixon Experience, I figure this could use a solid nudge, some fun data in here.
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] quick question. The cavity on these send rather shallow I’ve looked at them in my clubs pro shop to verify, albeit I’ve not hit them. I know that CBs are more forgiving than MBs can one quantify how much more? In my case, as a rarely full swinger of wedges it makes me wonder.
I guess it wasn’t that quick 🙂
[QUOTE=”JW Smoove, post: 13817981, member: 63219″]
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] quick question. The cavity on these send rather shallow I’ve looked at them in my clubs pro shop to verify, albeit I’ve not hit them. I know that CBs are more forgiving than MBs can one quantify how much more? In my case, as a rarely full swinger of wedges it makes me wonder.
I guess it wasn’t that quick 🙂
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For an am, significantly. Gotta remember, you’re going from no perimeter weighting, to having perimeter weighting (among other tech)
Honestly, probably still my favorite gap wedge I’ve hit in a couple years is this 50 degree CBZ. It’s wild how easy it is to hit.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 13818108, member: 1579″]
Honestly, probably still my favorite gap wedge I’ve hit in a couple years is this 50 degree CBZ. It’s wild how easy it is to hit.
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Man, mine can’t get here quick enough to see how it goes with comments like these . Have a PW and GW coming. Plan is to get these dialed in to be really good from 75-125 yards.
As I said in another thread, these will easily be the most overlooked and underrated wedges of 2026. And it’s a shame because they’re really, really good.
[QUOTE=”JW Smoove, post: 13817981, member: 63219″]
[USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] quick question. The cavity on these send rather shallow I’ve looked at them in my clubs pro shop to verify, albeit I’ve not hit them. I know that CBs are more forgiving than MBs can one quantify how much more? In my case, as a rarely full swinger of wedges it makes me wonder.
I guess it wasn’t that quick 🙂
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I won’t try to put a number to it, but it’s significant and very noticeable, even on less than full swings (chips and pitches). [I]Especially[/I] if you don’t always hit the center of the face on your wedges.
Looking forward to bagging some CBZ this year!
Anyone seeing performance differences going full face vs standard? Or is it mostly just shape preference and subtle grind difference?
[QUOTE=”Tywithay, post: 13824116, member: 14378″]
Looking forward to bagging some CBZ this year!
Anyone seeing performance differences going full face vs standard? Or is it mostly just shape preference and subtle grind difference?
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I like the full face in my highest lofted wedge (58° in my case), for the full face grooves and extra real estate on the toe for those open-faced shots – especially from tall rough. In the 54° slot I’m fine with the standard face, I don’t manipulate the face as much with that wedge.
[QUOTE=”Tywithay, post: 13824116, member: 14378″]
Looking forward to bagging some CBZ this year!
Anyone seeing performance differences going full face vs standard? Or is it mostly just shape preference and subtle grind difference?
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Preference more than anything.
Me, I love FF in a lobber, but that about it. That said, the FF sandy was fun to review too.
Srixon Experience guys, what CBZ lofts/grinds are you putting in your bags?
@Tywithay
@V14_Heels
@JAyer38
@HBH
@baylrballa
You're in for a treat, these are really good wedges. I expect you to actually be surprised at how good they are. I said it before and I'll say it again, they're going to be the most overlooked and underrated wedges of 2026.
CBZ 50*V – Match irons
CBZ 54*C Full Face – KBS Hi Rev 115g
CBZ 58*C Full Face – KBS Hi Rev 115g
I’m not a fancy wedge player by any means but some of the new grinds are nice.
If I ordered today it'd look like this:
46V
50V
54C Full Face
58C Full Face
I'll match the shafts closely to my irons, if not the same.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13835374, member: 3386″]
Srixon Experience guys, what CBZ lofts/grinds are you putting in your bags?
[USER=14378]@Tywithay[/USER]
[USER=53564]@V14_Heels[/USER]
[USER=85336]@JAyer38[/USER]
[USER=85411]@HBH[/USER]
[USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER]
You’re in for a treat, these are really good wedges. I expect you to actually be surprised at how good they are. I said it before and I’ll say it again, they’re going to be the most overlooked and underrated wedges of 2026.
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I’ve always liked Cleveland wedges, can’t wait to see how they perform.
[QUOTE=”JAyer38, post: 13835454, member: 85336″]
CBZ 50*V – Match irons
CBZ 54*C Full Face – KBS Hi Rev 115g
CBZ 58*C Full Face – KBS Hi Rev 115g
I’m not a fancy wedge player by any means but some of the new grinds are nice.
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I want a 58 full face so badly
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 13835743, member: 74252″]
I want a 58 full face so badly
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I thought about full face, but sometimes use the toe to bump and run so I don’t get spin. It’s a shot I’ve been working on for a while.
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 13835743, member: 74252″]
I want a 58 full face so badly
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This is the wedge I’m most excited to get honestly! I want to see the bunker performance it provides with the full face over my current CBX4. My miss on strike is toe side with irons/wedges sooo
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13835374, member: 3386″]
Srixon Experience guys, what CBZ lofts/grinds are you putting in your bags?
[USER=14378]@Tywithay[/USER]
[USER=53564]@V14_Heels[/USER]
[USER=85336]@JAyer38[/USER]
[USER=85411]@HBH[/USER]
[USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER]
You’re in for a treat, these are really good wedges. I expect you to actually be surprised at how good they are. I said it before and I’ll say it again, they’re going to be the most overlooked and underrated wedges of 2026.
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I think I’m leaning
46V
50V
56S bent to 55
60C
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 13836110, member: 52381″]
I think I’m leaning
46V
50V
56S bent to 55
60C
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The S grind description and bounce kinda scares me to be honest.
I’m so used to the SW spot being my do it all club from 100 yards and in. Then specialty LW for greenside bunkers.
Not sure how easy the S grind will want to open up as it sound more suited for square to the ball play. So might have to lean on the LW a bit more. Then see which one works best out of bunkers as well.
[QUOTE=”JAyer38, post: 13836065, member: 85336″]
This is the wedge I’m most excited to get honestly! I want to see the bunker performance it provides with the full face over my current CBX4. My miss on strike is toe side with irons/wedges sooo
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I have the 58° Full Face in my bag, toe side is my miss also so it’s nice to have the grooves and extra real estate on the clubface out there. I also like that the FF is lower bounce (10° on the FF vs 12° on the traditional on the 58).
The combination of the Z-Alloy and Gelback TPU make these the best feeling wedges I’ve ever hit, and I like that the Gelback was designed to look just like the rest of the clubhead so you don’t have a big, rubbery looking, different colored insert in the cavity of the wedge. It flows with the rest of the clubhead design, and if you didn’t know it was there you wouldn’t even notice it.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 13836137, member: 52381″]
The S grind description and bounce kinda scares me to be honest.
I’m so used to the SW spot being my do it all club from 100 yards and in. Then specialty LW for greenside bunkers.
Not sure how easy the S grind will want to open up as it sound more suited for square to the ball play. So might have to lean on the LW a bit more. Then see which one works best out of bunkers as well.
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I like the versatility of the S grind in the 54° because it’s a full swing club for me and I’m a little more comfortable with that bounce/grind for full swings than I am with the C. The S Grind won’t object to you opening up the face a little bit and it’s very forgiving of that when you have a little cushion under the ball (sand, or a little grass).
It wouldn’t be my first choice for hitting high lobs/flop shots off a closely mown fairway lie, but with anything more than that I don’t hesitate to open up the face a bit when I need it. It’s my first choice for bunker shots and does fine there too. I’ve played around with both of them in the practice bunker, hitting them side by side, and the 54S actually works better for me out of sand than the 58C. I’ll use the 58C if I have a tall face to get over or if I’m short sided, but other than that the 54S is what I take into the bunker with me.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13836145, member: 3386″]
I have the 58° Full Face in my bag, toe side is my miss also so it’s nice to have the grooves and extra real estate on the clubface out there. I also like that the FF is lower bounce (10° on the FF vs 12° on the traditional on the 58).
The combination of the Z-Alloy and Gelback TPU make these the best feeling wedges I’ve ever hit, and I like that the Gelback was designed to look just like the rest of the clubhead so you don’t have a big, rubbery looking, different colored insert in the cavity of the wedge. It flows with the rest of the clubhead design, and if you didn’t know it was there you wouldn’t even notice it.
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This is great to hear! I got to warm up with a CBZ a few months back and it was a great feeling wedge compared to my CBX4.
I’m really wondering how the leading edge will sit on the ground. The only complaint I’ve had is the higher bounces on my CBX2’s & CBX4’s make it hard to hit little short chips greenside as the leading edge is off the ground a good bit and if you lean forward it is just raises the possibly of chunks.
[QUOTE=”JAyer38, post: 13836223, member: 85336″]
This is great to hear! I got to warm up with a CBZ a few months back and it was a great feeling wedge compared to my CBX4.
I’m really wondering how the leading edge will sit on the ground. The only complaint I’ve had is the higher bounces on my CBX2’s & CBX4’s make it hard to hit little short chips greenside as the leading edge is off the ground a good bit and if you lean forward it is just raises the possibly of chunks.
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That’s kind of a “can’t have it both ways” situation though, isn’t it? Bounce is designed to keep the leading edge from digging, and it positions it a little bit off the ground. Using shaft lean to get the leading edge closer to the ground raises the possibility of chunks because you’re decreasing the bounce – same as if you were playing a lower bounce wedge.
It’s why I don’t like playing very low bounce wedges. Before I understood anything about grind or bounce, I had a 4° bounce wedge in the bag, and all I could do was dig trenches with that thing. Unless your low point control is precise, really low bounce is very unforgiving.
FWIW, the only problems I’ve had with skulling/thinning these wedges is when my short game’s fatal flaw surfaces – not staying down on the ball and looking up too soon, which lifts the club and causes me to hit it thin. As my buddy often says, “Look up, see bad shot”. 😁
Here’s my virtual fitting from Cleveland:
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[QUOTE=”HBH, post: 13836342, member: 85411″]
Here’s my virtual fitting from Cleveland:
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So which CBZ wedges are you going to choose for your bag?
Standard I'm thinking, still researching. Here's their recommendation:
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Since I was messing around taking pictures at the range today I figured I’d snap a couple for this thread.
CBZ 54°S at address:
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CBZ FF 58°C at address:
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[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13837212, member: 3386″]
Since I was messing around taking pictures at the range today I figured I’d snap a couple for this thread.
CBZ 54°S at address:
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CBZ FF 58°C at address:
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On the standard face wedge, do you have any sense if the micro-grooves are putting spin on the ball that a standard wedge without toe grooves would? I hope I stated that ok.
I played the prior CBX wedges and my miss is on the toe. I found that there was no lack of spin at all out there, whereas with my Current Opus wedges I think I miss a ton of spin when hit out there.
For others that have these: On the high lofted wedges (56-60), what is your experience in opening up the wedge for more “technique” or “touch” driven shots? I know [USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER] needs some feedback here to ease his mind a bit. Im sure others in the Srixon Experience would love to hear the same info.
I can’t provide feedback from the CBX generation as I just don’t have the short game skills (or knowledge) on how to pull off those shots. I’m a straight standard shot guy, only due to lack of knowledge. The CBX and CBX2 wedges were great at distance control, I know that much.
My 54°S is traditional face. I haven't put it on a launch monitor, but just judging from its reaction on the green it has plenty of spin when I hit out towards the toe. I haven't hit one so far out that I've completely missed the grooves (yet, haha), but I do intentionally hit chips out toward the toe side when I do "toe down" chips.
I have the 58° C grind, I hit a lot of open face shots with it. I hit anything from partially open face to what I guess I'd call "mini flops" (partial swing high lobs with the clubface laid very open) on the course, and the CBZs work really well for them. I don't hit *full* flop shots (a la Phil Mickelson) on the course, but I play around with them at the range and in the short game practice area.
When I first got my CBZs I was playing around at the range with them, hitting full swing flop shots off the mat and almost making it rain. 😁 Even on a mat I had no problem getting the leading edge under the ball.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13852863, member: 68067″]
For others that have these: On the high lofted wedges (56-60), what is your experience in opening up the wedge for more “technique” or “touch” driven shots? I know [USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER] needs some feedback here to ease his mind a bit. Im sure others in the Srixon Experience would love to hear the same info.
I can’t provide feedback from the CBX generation as I just don’t have the short game skills (or knowledge) on how to pull off those shots. I’m a straight standard shot guy, only due to lack of knowledge. The CBX and CBX2 wedges were great at distance control, I know that much.
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I can respond in relation to the the CBX4. Not the exact same thing, but they have some very close similarities in sole shaping.
I had the 54/58 in the bag for most of a season. Didn’t really manipulate the face much on the 54, but most certainly did with the 58. I don’t know man, if you feel in your head you can’t open a larger sole wedge you’re just going to let that be a thing with every swing. My suggestion is to trust it and let the club do the work.
The bounce slides nicely under the ball and is super forgiving on slightly heavy misses. I played all over the place with those wedges and they handled zoysia, bent, Bermuda, spring, summer, and fall.
Not to say they are going to hit every possible need. If you are playing straight hardpan trying to flop the ball, well… Maybe you shouldn’t be doing that anyway lol.
Personally, I see a little less spin with the CB wedges and a little more lunch angle. Those two things tend to cancel each other out in my experience.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 13853230, member: 1193″]
I can respond in relation to the the CBX4. Not the exact same thing, but they have some very close similarities in sole shaping.
I had the 54/58 in the bag for most of a season. Didn’t really manipulate the face much on the 54, but most certainly did with the 58. I don’t know man, if you feel in your head you can’t open a larger sole wedge you’re just going to let that be a thing with every swing. My suggestion is to trust it and let the club do the work.
The bounce slides nicely under the ball and is super forgiving on slightly heavy misses. I played all over the place with those wedges and they handled zoysia, bent, Bermuda, spring, summer, and fall.
Not to say they are going to hit every possible need. If you are playing straight hardpan trying to flop the ball, well… Maybe you shouldn’t be doing that anyway lol.
Personally, I see a little less spin with the CB wedges and a little more lunch angle. Those two things tend to cancel each other out in my experience.
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Interesting. In my past experince with the CBX I did hit a super high ball. I think you are right where there may be less spin, but te height and landing angle cancelled it out. The ball hit and stopped as it was coming it so high.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13853355, member: 68067″]
Interesting. In my past experince with the CBX I did hit a super high ball. I think you are right where there may be less spin, but te height and landing angle cancelled it out. The ball hit and stopped as it was coming it so high.
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Yea, it was consistently measurable on a launch monitor for sure. Makes sense when you look at all the mass down low.
When they went to HydraZip there was a big improvement in consistency with any level of moisture from shot to shot that I don’t think people realize the scope of. Big believer in that technology.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 13853364, member: 1193″]
Yea, it was consistently measurable on a launch monitor for sure. Makes sense when you look at all the mass down low.
When they went to HydraZip there was a big improvement in consistency with any level of moisture from shot to shot that I don’t think people realize the scope of. Big believer in that technology.
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The HydraZip comment is interesting. I don’t really play much to test it out, so don’t give that part enough attention as it may deserve. I typically play afternoons where everything has dried out already.
I really miss these wedges. I’ve been playing the Opus wedges well, but I got so used to the CBX I didn’t realize how comfortable I was with them, until you play a more “normal” wedge. It was on Day Two at the Hideaway after straight hozel rocketing a wedge shot, the CBXs popped into mind. They won’t save a bad hozel rocket, but the mass may prevent it with a more consistent impact and swing.
[QUOTE=”AuzzieMatt, post: 13714454, member: 54652″]
I got em, love the looks. I’ll grip them over the Chrissie break and get on the ST+ hopefully Sunday.
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These look great. I entered for the testing but these may be ordered for replacements anyway. Look great. Love me a Cleveland wedge too.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13852863, member: 68067″]
For others that have these: On the high lofted wedges (56-60), what is your experience in opening up the wedge for more “technique” or “touch” driven shots? I know [USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER] needs some feedback here to ease his mind a bit. Im sure others in the Srixon Experience would love to hear the same info.
I can’t provide feedback from the CBX generation as I just don’t have the short game skills (or knowledge) on how to pull off those shots. I’m a straight standard shot guy, only due to lack of knowledge. The CBX and CBX2 wedges were great at distance control, I know that much.
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I can speak to the CBX4 and if I trusted the club, the grind on that worked just fine to open it up. It seems there are a lot of similarities with the CBZ in terms of shaping.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 13854064, member: 62865″]
I can speak to the CBX4 and if I trusted the club, the grind on that worked just fine to open it up. It seems there are a lot of similarities with the CBZ in terms of shaping.
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I expect the shaping should be the same as the prior CBX wedges, or at least hope it is. Those were excellent.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13852953, member: 3386″]
My 54°S is traditional face. I haven’t put it on a launch monitor, but just judging from its reaction on the green it has plenty of spin when I hit out towards the toe. I haven’t hit one so far out that I’ve completely missed the grooves (yet, haha), but I do intentionally hit chips out toward the toe side when I do “toe down” chips.
I have the 58° C grind, I hit a lot of open face shots with it. I hit anything from partially open face to what I guess I’d call “mini flops” (partial swing high lobs with the clubface laid very open) on the course, and the CBZs work really well for them. I don’t hit *full* flop shots (a la Phil Mickelson) on the course, but I play around with them at the range and in the short game practice area.
When I first got my CBZs I was playing around at the range with them, hitting full swing flop shots off the mat and almost making it rain. 😁 Even on a mat I had no problem getting the leading edge under the ball.
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Does the 58° C work well in tight lies? That’s the place where I love my current 60° WL. I want to have one wedge that’s better for softer shots and rough and one that excels in bunkers and tight lies.
[QUOTE=”Inioch, post: 13854083, member: 72219″]
Does the 58° C work well in tight lies? That’s the place where I love my current 60° WL. I want to have one wedge that’s better for softer shots and rough and one that excels in bunkers and tight lies.
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Yes, the 58° C is my preferred wedge on tighter lies, both because of the grind and also the lower (10°) bounce.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 13854113, member: 3386″]
Yes, the 58° C is my preferred wedge on tighter lies, both because of the grind and also the lower (10°) bounce.
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Got it, thanks! I threw my hat into the testing signup, because the CBZ could be a really good fit for me.
They must have got a large shipment in, as my options are now showing in stock on the site. They have been greyed out for at least the prior month and a half.
I hope that means there will be more options available at retail as well. I looked for these two weeks ago and no lefty options were in the store.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13853908, member: 68067″]
The HydraZip comment is interesting. I don’t really play much to test it out, so don’t give that part enough attention as it may deserve. I typically play afternoons where everything has dried out already.
I really miss these wedges. I’ve been playing the Opus wedges well, but I got so used to the CBX I didn’t realize how comfortable I was with them, until you play a more “normal” wedge. It was on Day Two at the Hideaway after straight hozel rocketing a wedge shot, the CBXs popped into mind. They won’t save a bad hozel rocket, but the mass may prevent it with a more consistent impact and swing.
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It comes in handy more than I’d expect. Mid-summer in the afternoons we’ll typically have sprinklers running off and on. It’s a great feature.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 13854442, member: 1193″]
It comes in handy more than I’d expect. Mid-summer in the afternoons we’ll typically have sprinklers running off and on. It’s a great feature.
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I can see that. Around here stuff just bakes in the afternoons. It makes short game work very difficult.
Here’s a face pic of the last CBX2 wedge I played. You can clearly see the impact spot on the toe. These micro grooves out there save my rear routinely.
Yes some are from opening up the club face, but definitely not all. I’m not that guy. I need the forgiveness. This is where I am struggling right now on some wedge shots with the Opus wedges with no grooves on the toe. I’m glad to see the face groove approach is largely unchanged on the CBZ in this regard.
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Tried to find these again locally and completely struck out for anything lefty. The RH versions are plentiful and look great.
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[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 13854442, member: 1193″]
It comes in handy more than I’d expect. Mid-summer in the afternoons we’ll typically have sprinklers running off and on. It’s a great feature.
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I second hydrazip.
My 60 has it and my 56 was an older zip core that didn’t.
I play almost exclusively early mornings. All of a sudden my pitch shots and chips were checking up when I had zero expectation of them doing so. Since then I’m a huge believer in Hydrazip.
[QUOTE=”Chow, post: 13856483, member: 80528″]
I second hydrazip.
My 60 has it and my 56 was an older zip core that didn’t.
I play almost exclusively early mornings. All of a sudden my pitch shots and chips were checking up when I had zero expectation of them doing so. Since then I’m a huge believer in Hydrazip.
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It’s impressive that you can notice it that much.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13856952, member: 68067″]
It’s impressive that you can notice it that much.
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Devil’s advocate would say a 60 degree should stop faster than a 56. But I disgress.
Ping hydro pearl is similar technology. They also get rave reviews.
[QUOTE=”JTinMO, post: 13856952, member: 68067″]
It’s impressive that you can notice it that much.
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Yeah. I don’t notice it at all. But. Don’t play much wet golf either
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 13856976, member: 52381″]
Yeah. I don’t notice it at all. But. Don’t play much wet golf either
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You are going to get to try it out soon on the CBZ’s. You may have to do some hose or lawn sprinkler testing.