Since their re-launch in 2017, Cleveland Golf has traditionally been on a 2-year release cycle with their drivers. In 2017, we saw the “re-birth” of the Launcher HB, followed by the Launcher HB Turbo in 2019. 2021 brought a trio of Launcher XL drivers, and finally, last year the Launcher XL2 proved to be a sneaky good option for those looking for no-nonsense forgiving driver. What’s the reason for this brief trip down memory lane? Because Cleveland Golf is so excited about their latest driver creation, they have seemingly altered their typical release strategy and are announcing the new HiBore XL and HiBore XL Lite drivers today.
Let’s start our discussion on the history of the Cleveland HiBore by looking back at the original model released in 2006. Known for its scoop-backed crown design, the HiBore is recognized as a driver that significantly influenced the conversation around how club shaping can enhance design and benefit golfers. It’s important to revisit the original HiBore, not only because of its name similarity to the new HiBore XL but also because Cleveland is once again pushing the boundaries of design in ways that will capture attention.
The new Cleveland HiBore XL driver models are the most forgiving in the brand’s history, and they have achieved this through several innovative features. First, the overall size of the face has been increased by 19% compared to the Launcher XL2. A larger face offers several advantages for golfers, including a more prominent sweet spot and more surface area to counteract extreme off-center strikes. If you’ve ever felt nervous standing over the ball, that extra 19% can help ease those first tee jitters. I know which tee box I would want that larger face and extra confidence for.
Behind this larger face is Cleveland’s MainFrame XL, which incorporates a variable thickness pattern designed to enhance ball speed on off-center hits. MainFrame XL has been meticulously designed based on thousands of A.I. simulations to optimize the sweet spot.??The benefit is that the result can still be favorable even if your contact isn’t perfect.
To accommodate the larger face design, Cleveland needed to ensure that the driver remained within the USGA legal limit of 460cc, which required a new shape. After all, no one wants to upset the USGA. With the assistance of artificial intelligence, the research and development team devised a solution by tapering the sides to create a triangular shape. This design not only meets the compliance requirements but also allows for a lower and deeper center of gravity within the clubhead. It may look different from every driver on the market, but the performance benefits could be worth it.
For those who remember the original HiBore driver, another notable aspect beyond its unique crown design was the sound, which some might consider an acquired taste. Cleveland aimed to ensure that the sound profile would provide a pleasing experience even with its unconventional shape. As a byproduct of the triangular body design, both the sole and crown were able to be stiffened, which helps reduce vibrations. According to Cleveland, this not only improves the impact sound but also could make it “music to your ears.”
As our R&D research has developed hand in hand with advancements of our A.I. simulation capabilities, the realization came that removing the constraints of a ‘traditional’ looking Driver shape would allow for new and exciting performance opportunities. By taking advantage of the unique HiBore philosophy of a performance first design, we were able to unlock levels of forgiveness and distance that weren’t possible before. But there is one key difference with the new model compared to that of the past…it also sounds great!”
Casey Shultz, Senior Product Manager at Cleveland Golf
Over the years, Cleveland has successfully integrated technologies from Srixon, one of its sister brands. This time, Cleveland has incorporated a feature called ActivWing, which initially debuted on XXIO metalwoods. ActivWing is located on the heel side of the crown and enhances aerodynamics. Unlike many discussions about aerodynamics focusing solely on increasing swing speed, ActivWing improves stability during the downswing. This stability helps ensure a more consistent delivery of the clubhead at impact. As a result, players can expect improved performance in distance and forgiveness, along with better downrange dispersion.
When it comes to fine-tuning the HiBore XL driver, there are two main options available. Both the HiBore XL and HiBore XL Lite models feature Cleveland’s adjustable hosel, which allows for 12 different loft and lie settings in 0.5° increments. Additionally, the back of the XL model contains a 12-gram stainless steel weight. Extra weights will also be available for purchase in 2 grams, 8 grams, and 16 grams. It’s important to mention that golfers can custom order their HiBore XL and have their preferred sole weight pre-installed.
It’s important to note that the Hibore XL Lite head lacks an adjustable sole weight. However, the Lite model targets a slightly different demographic of golfers. The Hibore XL is designed for golfers with average to above-average swing speeds who prefer a more neutral flight path. In contrast, the Hibore XL Lite is aimed at golfers with moderate swing speeds who require additional spin and can benefit from some internal draw weighting. Both models are available in lofts ranging from 9° to 12°.
Cleveland has chosen a Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 55 shaft for the Hibore XL, which provides a mid-launch and mid-spin profile. For the Hibore XL Lite, the stock shaft is the Aldila Ascent PL 40, designed to enhance weight savings and produce a higher launch compared to the Tensei AV Blue. Regardless of which model you choose, both feature an 8-gram weight positioned at the butt end of the shaft to counterbalance the club. Cleveland refers to this as Action Mass CB, promoting it to help golfers improve their control. If control is your top priority, remember that Cleveland offers an accurate build. This build is 1/2″ shorter than the standard 46″ length and removes the 8-gram weight for counterbalancing.
I’ve always believed that if Cleveland were to bring back the HiBore name, they would need to do it with a driver that breaks the mold. Just like the original model from 2006, and they have accomplished exactly that. The new HiBore XL and HiBore XL Lite drivers feature a larger face and a triangular shape, designed to provide an extremely forgiving experience that can help golfers enjoy the game even more. Assuming you’ve read this far, what do you think about the new hope? Is it something you could see yourself trying or adding to your bag? Be sure to visit the THP Forum and share your thoughts!
The Details – Cleveland HiBore XL Driver
Release: December 6, 2024
Price: $399.99
Models: HiBore XL, HiBore XL Lite
Shafts: XL – Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 55 (R, S)
XL Lite – Aldila Ascent PL 40 (L, A, R, S)
Dexterity: HiBore XL – RH Only and HiBore XL Lite – RH/LH
More information is available at us.dunlopsports.com/cleveland-golf
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Is anyone out there finding much on this driver? I’m kind of struggling to find some things. To the point that I found this youtube guy talking about it, have never seen this dude before in my life. No clue if he knows what he’s talking about or not…but after a few minutes in I struggle with him
Anyway…check out the 2 minute mark when he posts a video of the driver head. I know it looks familiar to THPers and to my iPhone haha
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Alex Elliott. I’ve seen some of his instruction videos.
[QUOTE=”Bernoulli, post: 12758401, member: 42734″]
Alex Elliott. I’ve seen some of his instruction videos.
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well now he supports the Town of Colonie course lol
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12758379, member: 782″]
Is anyone out there finding much on this driver? I’m kind of struggling to find some things. To the point that I found this youtube guy talking about it, have never seen this dude before in my life. No clue if he knows what he’s talking about or not…but after a few minutes in I struggle with him
Anyway…check out the 2 minute mark when he posts a video of the driver head. I know it looks familiar to THPers and to my iPhone haha
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Did you just end up in a reaction video?
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12758407, member: 782″]
well now he supports the Town of Colonie course lol
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It took me a minute but I got it.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12758446, member: 1193″]
Did you just end up in a reaction video?
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just trying to make it big.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12758462, member: 782″]
just trying to make it big.
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He should join the forum and come talk to us.
I just played 9 holes in chilly New York with my new hi bore xl lite. Proved to be a really nice driver, I’m in my sixties and the lighter weight helped considerably. Finally found something to replace my original hi bore. Very straight and 10-20 yards longer.
[QUOTE=”rowbeartow, post: 12758895, member: 82907″]
I just played 9 holes in chilly New York with my new hi bore xl lite. Proved to be a really nice driver, I’m in my sixties and the lighter weight helped considerably. Finally found something to replace my original hi bore. Very straight and 10-20 yards longer.
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That’s fun. Enjoy it. Let us know how it continues to work for you.
[QUOTE=”rowbeartow, post: 12758895, member: 82907″]
I just played 9 holes in chilly New York with my new hi bore xl lite. Proved to be a really nice driver, I’m in my sixties and the lighter weight helped considerably. Finally found something to replace my original hi bore. Very straight and 10-20 yards longer.
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I love hearing that. I’m going to get some swings in with mine this afternoon, albeit inside.
Is this out yet? I thought article said Dec 6th. I’ll head out to PGASS after the holiday and look for it.
In a time where the cost of a new driver is usually $600, it’s refreshing to see these at $400.
Thank you for the review, [USER=782]@ddec[/USER].
Took a couple of swipes yesterdays. 10.5 set to 10.5. Normally play a 12*
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Pretty solid for my 90 mph swing speed. [ATTACH=full]9310263[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]9310264[/ATTACH]
Agree but with prior year models from other pens being discounted at $400 or even less, which is a consumer going to choose?
Hibore or G430 Max/Cobra Darkspeed for the same cost $399??
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12759292, member: 7797″]
Agree but with prior year models from other pens being discounted at $400 or even less, which is a consumer going to choose?
Hibore or G430 Max/Cobra Darkspeed for the same cost $399??
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Hopefully, the driver that fits them best.
I demo’d most of the 2023 drivers in February- Cobra included – and wasn’t impressed with any of them, even the one I ended up buying.
If new clubs are going to be a crap shoot, I’ll take this year’s tech geared toward hi cappers and reasonably priced. I suppose that would be the HiBore XL Lite. Plus, I already have 6 other Cleveland clubs in the bag (could easily be 10). They have been the best wedges and irons I’ve ever played. The Cleveland brand has actually earned my consideration, unlike any of the other OEMs.
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Pretty solid for my 90 mph swing speed. [ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_1628.jpeg”]9310263[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_1624.jpeg”]9310264[/ATTACH]
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I think the numbers from 12 would be fun to see. What did you think of the driver overall?
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Pretty solid for my 90 mph swing speed. [ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_1628.jpeg”]9310263[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_1624.jpeg”]9310264[/ATTACH]
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Where do those launch and spin numbers compare to what you normally see?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12759373, member: 1193″]
I think the numbers from 12 would be fun to see. What did you think of the driver overall?
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Not following, what do you mean by “numbers from 12”?
The shape wasn’t my cup of tea to be honest. When I saw the renderings online I wasn’t expecting the back portion to be so sharp when it came to the angles but man its a triangle for sure. I thought the sound and feel were fine. To be fair though, I didn’t spend much time with it. only a handful of swings. I grabbed the Lite model they had which was set to 12* and the spin did kick up substantially, high 2k’s and low 3k’s. So it was easy to hit but lost a fair amount of yardage over the std model.
I hit the Hibore in the store on a GC Hawk. So I don’t have any comparable numbers on the same monitor.
But today and yesterday I hit my Qi10 Max 12* set to 12* on a GC Quad and without throwing out any drives over 20 swings my averages were:
212 carry
231 total
130 ball
84 peak
2089 spin
36* land
92 mph
7.5 up AoA (range was 6.1 up to 9.7* up)
1.42 smash
Unfortunately I haven’t been jotting down launch angle when gathering that data set.
This was with a Chrome Tour X ball
I feel like on the course I spin my driver a little more than these numbers indicate.
Over the course of the season, Shot Scope showed an avg all shots of 224 yds, 243 P avg, 64% FIR (283 total drives).
The 1800 spin of the Hibore would scare me. I would definitely need more loft to bring that number up. But from what I seen it seems like a pretty quick driver.
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Not following, what do you mean by “numbers from 12”?
The shape wasn’t my cup of tea to be honest. When I saw the renderings online I wasn’t expecting the back portion to be so sharp when it came to the angles but man its a triangle for sure. I thought the sound and feel were fine. To be fair though, I didn’t spend much time with it. only a handful of swings. I grabbed the Lite model they had which was set to 12* and the spin did kick up substantially, high 2k’s and low 3k’s. So it was easy to hit but lost a fair amount of yardage over the std model.
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I think he means you said you tested at 10.5, was think the 12 might be some fun numbers to see based on what you posted.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12759521, member: 782″]
I think he means you said you tested at 10.5, was think the 12 might be some fun numbers to see based on what you posted.
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Got it. yeah would like to see what the 12* head would do.
Speaking of that, is Cleveland just doing only a 10.5 adjustable head in these? The fitting cart at my local shop had 1 core model head and 1 Lite head and both just said 9*-12* on the hosel label.
Everything okay? ??
That’s solid. What’s the dispersion look like on it?
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 12760095, member: 74252″]
That’s solid. What’s the dispersion look like on it?
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No idea. Only hit 4-5 shots with it
They’ll set it to what loft you prefer if it’s a custom order, otherwise it comes stock at 10.5. Several settings from neutral, draw , to 2.5 flat. I played the XL2 . View attachment 9310963
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They’ll set it to what loft you prefer if it’s a custom order, otherwise it comes stock at 10.5. Several settings from neutral, draw , to 2.5 flat. I played the XL2 . [ATTACH type=”full”]9310963[/ATTACH]
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That’s an interesting take to only offer a 10.5* head.
Not everyone playing a 12* likes a closed face and 9* an open face.
Seems like a way to just save money on less sku’s.
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12766029, member: 7797″]
That’s an interesting take to only offer a 10.5* head.
Not everyone playing a 12* likes a closed face and 9* an open face.
Seems like a way to just save money on less sku’s.
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I don’t believe they only offer a single loft. Yes, you can adjust through that range, but they still list three heads for RH.
At 11* the XL2 too closed even for my eye. I ordered it and eventually left it at 10.5*. For the $399, I may order the new HiBore blind like I did the XL2. The XL2 was a very under the radar driver in my book.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12766232, member: 1193″]
I don’t believe they only offer a single loft. Yes, you can adjust through that range, but they still list three heads for RH.
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That’s good and was my understanding. But the wording was confusing on the site and many launch review articles said 10.5 adj head only.
Got to see and hit this a few weeks back. Those that give it a fair trial will be pleasantly surprised.
I think Cleveland hits the mark with this one. It’s easy to hit and it costs less. Still going to be something to get over in terms of looks, but the forgiveness helps.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12768012, member: 782″]
I think Cleveland hits the mark with this one. It’s easy to hit and it costs less. Still going to be something to get over in terms of looks, but the forgiveness helps.
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How’s it sit for you? Neutral or a little bit open/closed. Any issues with how the face sets up to the ball?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12770391, member: 1193″]
How’s it sit for you? Neutral or a little bit open/closed. Any issues with how the face sets up to the ball?
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It’s more neutral to slightly closed for me. I actually like it at setup, I’ve gotten over the shape. My problem is I’m just not closing the face and rotating on my way through. I don’t think that’s exclusive to this one.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12770675, member: 782″]
It’s more neutral to slightly closed for me. I actually like it at setup, I’ve gotten over the shape. My problem is I’m just not closing the face and rotating on my way through. I don’t think that’s exclusive to this one.
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That’s a big face to close. I’d suggest closing that face, but you don’t really need any more loft imo.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12770724, member: 1193″]
That’s a big face to close. I’d suggest closing that face, but you don’t really need any more loft imo.
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oh I definitely don’t. If I knew I was actually rotating through, I would crank that face open because then I can work on kind of slamming it shut.