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  • What a great thread! I just bought a 2013 Mustang Convertible this last week and I think I am going to have to take it in to a professional detailer. The day I purchased it it had been raining so I didn't get a great idea of what the paint looked like. Well, I learned my lesson. I brought it home, washed it up and low and behold there were terrible water spots etched in to the paint. I did my best to work them out: started with Meguiar's clay bar, followed with a round of Meguiar's Scratch X 2.0 and ended with Meguiar's NXT wax. It does look better and the spots are less noticeable, but they are definitely still there. I'm going to have to find a good detailer in my area to see if they can get these out. I am pretty meticulous with my vehicles and this is driving me nuts!
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    • Going to need something powered to take those out. Be it a rotary or random orbital. If you do not know how to use one, definitely take it to a professional.
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      • Like JB said, I would take it to a competent detailer to machine polish/buff the water spots off and properly protect the paint from further issues.
        I actually have been so lax this year with protecting my personal vehicles, before the winter hits I have to re-buff my S2000 and seal it with my 22ple products. Also my Fusion needs some winter protection love before the snow flies!
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        • I detail my SS every 4-5 days. And every 4th wash I apply paint sealant. Spray paint won't even stick to my paint. It's awesome stuff. Plus bugs just spray off with a hose.

          Paint sealant stops water spots. Just wash car and chamois dry. Works perfect.
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          • Originally posted by kvarilek View Post
            What a great thread! I just bought a 2013 Mustang Convertible this last week and I think I am going to have to take it in to a professional detailer. The day I purchased it it had been raining so I didn't get a great idea of what the paint looked like. Well, I learned my lesson. I brought it home, washed it up and low and behold there were terrible water spots etched in to the paint. I did my best to work them out: started with Meguiar's clay bar, followed with a round of Meguiar's Scratch X 2.0 and ended with Meguiar's NXT wax. It does look better and the spots are less noticeable, but they are definitely still there. I'm going to have to find a good detailer in my area to see if they can get these out. I am pretty meticulous with my vehicles and this is driving me nuts!
            Many water spots can be taken out with a acid based wheel cleaner but you have to be super careful to mask off all the glass on the vehicle because any acid hitting the glass will etch the glass. Water spots that are really etched into the paint will come out quickly with a 2000 or 3000 grit sanding disc on a 3/16" or 5/16" DA sander. My preferred method is a 3000 grit disc followed by a 5000 grit disc and 2 polishing steps. As others have said, etched water spots are best left to a professional.

            If anyone is interested in how a professional would use 5000 grit in the paint finishing process, here's a couple of videos.





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            • Originally posted by JB View Post
              Going to need something powered to take those out. Be it a rotary or random orbital. If you do not know how to use one, definitely take it to a professional.
              for someone that doesn't know what they are doing, you can burn through the paint pretty quickly. So, get help if needed. Paint fixes aren't cheap. Plus they never blend exactly right.
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              • Originally posted by JB View Post
                Going to need something powered to take those out. Be it a rotary or random orbital. If you do not know how to use one, definitely take it to a professional.
                I had actually used a buffer when I was going through the process but I am definitely not a professional. It's definitely going to take someone that is much more skilled than myself to handle this project. Now I just have to figure out who is good in town. I appreciate the responses everyone!
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                • Originally posted by kvarilek View Post
                  I had actually used a buffer when I was going through the process but I am definitely not a professional. It's definitely going to take someone that is much more skilled than myself to handle this project. Now I just have to figure out who is good in town. I appreciate the responses everyone!
                  And depending on power it might not have been enough. Then add that for strong spots you will need a cutting type material like a compound rather than just a chemical cleaner like what you were using.

                  Pro will get it fixed in no time.
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                  • Originally posted by kvarilek View Post
                    I had actually used a buffer when I was going through the process but I am definitely not a professional. It's definitely going to take someone that is much more skilled than myself to handle this project. Now I just have to figure out who is good in town. I appreciate the responses everyone!
                    I would ask around for a recommended detailer in your area or check Yelp or Angie's list - at least that might filter out the bad detailers. Many body shops would be willing to do water spot removal but most will charge $350-$500 to do an entire car.
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                    • I just picked up a Meguiar's Heavy Duty Headlight repair kit, time to buff out those lenses. Got me thinking about a similar repair method for my windshields. With the road salt and sand in my region, it doesn't take long for a windshield to get pitted. I see that such repair kits exist, anyone here try one?
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                      • Originally posted by gr8dryv View Post
                        I just picked up a Meguiar's Heavy Duty Headlight repair kit, time to buff out those lenses. Got me thinking about a similar repair method for my windshields. With the road salt and sand in my region, it doesn't take long for a windshield to get pitted. I see that such repair kits exist, anyone here try one?
                        Plastic headlights are worlds different than a glass windshield. You can't really wet sand or remove a layer from glass like you can plastic or paint.
                        I would be pretty weary about those windshield repair kits. Also when you use any type of headlight repair kit, make sure it comes with some type of sealant or coating. Without that, your headlights will just fog back up and turn yellow in no time.
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                        • Originally posted by choppstixxx View Post
                          Plastic headlights are worlds different than a glass windshield. You can't really wet sand or remove a layer from glass like you can plastic or paint.
                          I would be pretty weary about those windshield repair kits. Also when you use any type of headlight repair kit, make sure it comes with some type of sealant or coating. Without that, your headlights will just fog back up and turn yellow in no time.
                          I forget which one I used, but I've used it twice and both times the headlights have gone back to being fogged. It came with a sealer but it didn't seem to matter.

                          When I worked for Saturn, I'd wash and quick wax my car at least once a week. Might as well take advantage of what available to you. One of the nice perks when I worked there.

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                          • Originally posted by choppstixxx View Post
                            Plastic headlights are worlds different than a glass windshield. You can't really wet sand or remove a layer from glass like you can plastic or paint.
                            I would be pretty weary about those windshield repair kits. Also when you use any type of headlight repair kit, make sure it comes with some type of sealant or coating. Without that, your headlights will just fog back up and turn yellow in no time.
                            Yup, thanks! I got the Meguiar's Heavy Duty kit which comes with a UV protective sealant.
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                            • I would disagree about burning through paint easily, if you purchase a DA polisher you can stand on those things and they wont burn through paint, you would really have to do something awful to do it. Rotary polishers are most likely to do it but with proper practice they aren't dangerous. I use one most of the time to be honest, I love it. Only drawback is really some holograms you can leave behind. For most DIY guys a dual action such as a porter cable or rupes (pricey) are fine.

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                              • Originally posted by choppstixxx View Post
                                Plastic headlights are worlds different than a glass windshield. You can't really wet sand or remove a layer from glass like you can plastic or paint.
                                I would be pretty weary about those windshield repair kits. Also when you use any type of headlight repair kit, make sure it comes with some type of sealant or coating. Without that, your headlights will just fog back up and turn yellow in no time.
                                Windshields are pretty simple to polish as well. A rayon buffer pad and ceriglass polish will take wiper grooves out in a few minutes with the proper technique.
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