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  • #31
    Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
    If can trade Zaitzev and maybe Brown they have plenty of space.

    Chances are getting rid of Zaitzev is going to require taking back just of large of a contract.


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    • #32
      Originally posted by MPlefty View Post
      if the Oilers are willing to pay that much, why not just send an offer sheet?

      They could. But this way they could put conditions on the picks so not top 5 maybe. Puljujarvi not really worth much atm, and Larsson not worth 2 firsts so really still a deal.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
        Chances are getting rid of Zaitzev is going to require taking back just of large of a contract.


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        I know lots of people think so, but apparently Dubas has already had offers for a 2nd round pick straight up. He turned it down. He wants a decent player back. Many teams still value zaitzev apparently (as Babcock does). And realistically if he can play top 4 minutes he’s not badly overpaid.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
          I know lots of people think so, but apparently Dubas has already had offers for a 2nd round pick straight up. He turned it down. He wants a decent player back. Many teams still value zaitzev apparently (as Babcock does). And realistically if he can play top 4 minutes hes not badly overpaid.
          It's not his cap hit it's the term that's the issue.


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          • #35
            Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
            If can trade Zaitzev and maybe Brown they have plenty of space.
            If the Kings are trading Doughty then that would signify a complete rebuild. They would want multiple cost controlled assets, not a RFA due big bucks.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
              If the Kings are trading Doughty then that would signify a complete rebuild. They would want multiple cost controlled assets, not a RFA due big bucks.
              If doing a full rebuild sure...but if they think they have enough young parts to just retool? Unlikely of course, but possible. I actually agree though. I think LA should do a massive rebuild. How about Toronto let’s Marner walk away and gives 3 or 4 of the received 1sts for Doughty and Martinez?
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              • #37
                When does free agency officially open? Or is it already open just not for everyone yet?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cbaker2882 View Post
                  When does free agency officially open? Or is it already open just not for everyone yet?
                  Allowed to talk now. Deals not allowed to be signed until July 1st at noon. In theory not allowed to even discuss term or salary...but everybody does. As evidenced by all the deals sent to the league at 12:01 lol.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
                    If the Kings are trading Doughty then that would signify a complete rebuild. They would want multiple cost controlled assets, not a RFA due big bucks.
                    I mean dude would be your asset that you build around for years. Not talking about a guy who is 26-27.

                    I don't think it will or would happen as the Leafs don't need another $11 million player, no matter who it is.


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                      I mean dude would be your asset that you build around for years. Not talking about a guy who is 26-27.

                      I don't think it will or would happen as the Leafs don't need another $11 million player, no matter who it is.


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                      I agree I don’t think it happens, but I disagree about another superstar. Would have 3 each making ~13.5% of the cap. Plus another 3 guys being vastly underpaid (Reilly/Kadri/and I swear it will become quickly apparent Nylander). Add in goalie and 2 rfa resigns and that is 9 guys in the core. Leaves about 20 million for last dozen guys. With at least 6 on sub 1 million contracts, it basically leaves 8 guys for 14-16 million. Very doable. If can dump brown/Zaitzev.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by oiler3535 View Post
                        I agree I dont think it happens, but I disagree about another superstar. Would have 3 each making ~13.5% of the cap. Plus another 3 guys being vastly underpaid (Reilly/Kadri/and I swear it will become quickly apparent Nylander). Add in goalie and 2 rfa resigns and that is 9 guys in the core. Leaves about 20 million for last dozen guys. With at least 6 on sub 1 million contracts, it basically leaves 8 guys for 14-16 million. Very doable. If can dump brown/Zaitzev.
                        I don't have as many issues with Nylander's contract as some.

                        I just don't see how having 3 guys at $11 mill each would work long term. Again both Rielly and Andersen are due for massive upgrades in 2 and 3 years time.

                        What do you think Kap and Johansson will sign for?

                        Getting rid of Brown only frees up what $2 mill?


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                          I mean dude would be your asset that you build around for years. Not talking about a guy who is 26-27.

                          I don't think it will or would happen as the Leafs don't need another $11 million player, no matter who it is.


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                          It wouldn't make sense to me because he's not a center or defenseman. I'd prefer Doughty was moved for a future stud defenseman or center as they are much more valuable and tougher to trade for.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Quickstrike View Post
                            It wouldn't make sense to me because he's not a center or defenseman. I'd prefer Doughty was moved for a future stud defenseman or center as they are much more valuable and tougher to trade for.
                            I don't disagree and completely agree on the centre aspect. However, not many teams are giving up those guys. I think in this market you have to rebuild through the draft and hope with a top 4 pick you can get a #1 centre.


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                            • #44
                              Im hoping they can sign Marner for under 10 for a good term. I think they will match an offer sheet up to 10.5 if it comes to that, but beyond that I think they take the 4 1sts.

                              It will be interesting to see what they can do with Zaitsev, and I think Brown will be a cap casualty (which I thought he played well in the playoffs).

                              They need to address the D badly though and Im waiting to see if a Kappy/ Mango goes for one. Although apparently deals for both are basically done, just waiting on the Marner contract to finalize.

                              There was supposed to be a big shake up with the leafs, still waiting to see that. They still need a second assistant coach too.


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Golf Ghost View Post
                                What do you think Kap and Johansson will sign for?
                                Getting rid of Brown only frees up what $2 mill?
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                                Reilly Im hoping gets replaced by Sandin. Goalies are voodoo so I don’t even try to guess. Brown frees up 2 yes.
                                Kapanen has resigned for 3x3.2ish and Johnsson has resigned for 4x3.4ish ... apparently the deals are done but they are waiting to announce it for some reason. That’s not rumour, that’s Bob McKenzie. Both are slightly more than I’d like but likely to vastly outperform those deals. Wouldn’t shock me if one gets traded still for a D.
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