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  • #31
    Originally posted by PhillyV View Post
    Thats also just one person's experience with it. Either way you go, Im sure youll be happy, but dont get hung up on one persons thoughts, no matter who it is or what the product is. Shiels may see something wonky with the new Callaway driver too, doesnt mean its not good product.
    Oh, I know. I have been needlessly replacing drivers on a yearly basis for far too long. I am not trying to say it's not a good product. TM makes damn fine drivers. My thought was that if he saw a 2-3 mph increase in ball speed due to the new face being right at the limit where previous models were not able to get there due to manufacturing tolerances, it would have told me that the tech and all the marketing hype around it was huge. While there is no doubt this driver will perform admirably, at first glance, it doesn't appear that this new tech actually guarantees any additional speed. Of course, there is always the conspiracy theory that the reviewers are getting heads right at the limit to help push clubs. If that were the case, it would explain why he wouldn't see any gains vs. the other reviewed heads he has done.

    My decision to go Callaway is mostly due to the fact that I have shafts that I like with Callaway tips already. Also to the fact that Callaway drivers have consistently worked well for me in the past. I have strayed to other drivers but they always seem to pull me back in. I am sure there are those with the same thought on the TM side of the fence.
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    • #32
      I really like the looks. Big upgrades at address and at the sole. Also like the T track over the Y (just makes more sense to me). The M6 has more of a tech story in my eyes with the low and deep CG like the Cobra F9.

      I am a little underwhelmed at stock shaft options (not the Pro version of the CK or the TS on the Atmos) and think others have passed TM by there, but they may be a good fit for a wide portion of the population. It takes a little bit away from the value proposition, especially when raising prices.

      Lastly, I think the speed story may be a bit of a risk. If the heads aren't any faster than prior generation TM drivers, it will make it feel like they have maxed out their tech in terms of ball speed. Any word on if stock shaft lengths are longer? That would lessen the risk for them.

      Overall, more positive than negative with this release for me. I like the look enough, and had an overall positive experience with the 17 TM M1. Just thought that it lacked a bit of speed. If their new face technology solves that it could be a very good performer for me.
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      Driver: Epic Flash
      Fairway: V-Series Heavenwood, 915 F2 16.5
      Hybrid: G400 Crossover
      Irons: Callaway Apex CF16 5-PW
      Wedges: Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60
      Putter: Oworks Red Jailbird Mini

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JB View Post
        From a true sense I would say the screws are there to remind and show people that resin is in place. Visual tech works. Similar to the way jailbreak is shown on the sole.
        Provides shelf appeal. I didn't watch the DVD2 season, but from what I hear, that was a big topic of discussion.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by radiman View Post
          Provides shelf appeal. I didn't watch the DVD2 season, but from what I hear, that was a big topic of discussion.
          Yep, the prez mentioned it pretty much every single episode. It matters.
          WITB:
          TaylorMade
          - M6 9.0 -
          UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
          TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
          PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
          Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
          Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
          SWAG
          - Tour Proto Savage Too -
          Center-Shaft 373g
          Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jman View Post
            Man, 435cc is calling me.
            as a lower launch, lower spin player, wouldn't this model work against you?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by McLovin View Post
              as a lower launch, lower spin player, wouldn't this model work against you?
              Possibly, possibly not. The fun is in the trying and finding out.

              Sooooo much fun.
              WITB:
              TaylorMade
              - M6 9.0 -
              UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
              TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
              PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
              Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
              Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
              SWAG
              - Tour Proto Savage Too -
              Center-Shaft 373g
              Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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              • #37
                Originally posted by McLovin View Post
                that m6 sole looks very similar to the speedback sole. and holy reduction in weight in the m6! 46g lighter sounds like a real challenge in swingweighting.

                between the two, i think m6 is more my speed so i would be curious to try it.

                is it just me, or is there little to no copy discussing the fact that there are freaking SCREWS on the face of the driver?! why are they there?

                i hadn't heard of the atmos orange shaft before. i'd be curious to learn more about it as an option in the m6.
                Similar to the irons or UDi that have screws out on the toe, they are there to allow TaylorMade to inject a varying amount of resin into each location to tune the driver right near the legal limit. I should have a bit more information on it in a bit to really dive into the value.
                In my Team Hackers Vessel/Cobra Arnold Palmer Stand Bag

                KING F9 Speedback 9* Driver
                KING F9 Speedback 13.5* Tour Fairway
                Z U85 18* Utility Iron
                KING F9 Speedback 4/5 Irons
                KING Forged TEC Black 6-G Irons
                RTX4 Black 50/54/58 Wedges
                Super Rat

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                • #38
                  TaylorMade M5 and M6 Drivers

                  As with all drivers, go through a fitting, but it is funny that TM’s marketing line of “everyone gets faster” was immediately dispelled by Rick Shiels showing no higher ball speeds vs M3/M4. When they say “everyone”, it should mean everyone... With the launch and spin he was getting, looks like TM should’ve marketed toward their holy grail of 17* launch, and 1700 spin....
                  Lord knows, it’s impossible for “everyone” to be faster these days, so why they went that route, I have NO idea.


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                  In my ​Callaway stand bag:

                  Driver: VC-460, Atmos Black Tour Spec 6X
                  Fairway: XR 15*, D+ 82X
                  Hybrids: X2 Hot Pro 19*,Tour AD-DI 85X
                  Irons: Edel "Driver" 3-PW, KBS C-Taper Lite stiff
                  Wedges: Edel 50/54/58
                  Putter: Edel E2

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pkielwa View Post
                    As with all drivers, go through a fitting, but it is funny that TM’s marketing line of “everyone gets faster” was immediately dispelled by Rick Shiels showing no higher ball speeds vs M3/M4. When they say “everyone”, it should mean everyone... With the launch and spin he was getting, looks like TM should’ve marketed toward their holy grail of 17* launch, and 1700 spin....
                    Lord knows, it’s impossible for “everyone” to be faster these days, so why they went that route, I have NO idea.


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                    Because good, bad, indifferent...it gets people TALKING and that’s a win for any company.
                    WITB:
                    TaylorMade
                    - M6 9.0 -
                    UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
                    TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
                    PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
                    Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
                    Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
                    SWAG
                    - Tour Proto Savage Too -
                    Center-Shaft 373g
                    Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Canadan View Post
                      Similar to the irons or UDi that have screws out on the toe, they are there to allow TaylorMade to inject a varying amount of resin into each location to tune the driver right near the legal limit. I should have a bit more information on it in a bit to really dive into the value.
                      So are the holes simply an elite could into the driver head? I would really love to see a deconstructed head to see what it's all about under the hood.
                      REPRESENTING THP IN THE 2019 GRANDADDY!!!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by radiman View Post
                        So are the holes simply an elite could into the driver head? I would really love to see a deconstructed head to see what it's all about under the hood.
                        There’s a couple of the vids out there that have some shots of the head cut open to see. It’s pretty cool.
                        WITB:
                        TaylorMade
                        - M6 9.0 -
                        UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
                        TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
                        PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
                        Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
                        Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
                        SWAG
                        - Tour Proto Savage Too -
                        Center-Shaft 373g
                        Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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                        • #42
                          I had an absolute blast hitting the M5 and M6 at the Kingdom a few weeks ago. I'll start in here with a few stories, first being my actual fitting with the driver of choice.

                          After fighting the elements for a while, I got a chance to spend time with some great fitters from the UK, Sweden, and France (so cool). We started with the M5 and after a while, and my swing catching up with me, we noticed the ball speed slowly improving... 163.. 164... 165... 166... Dan, the primary fitter, decided we should start to chase 170, and of course I was fully down for it.

                          A couple of tunes later, and a move to the 435cc head, we finished at 168.5mph which is very impressive for me. I did find it weird that Trackman had my swing speed at around 113, while the GCQuad had it at 116-117. I wish I'd spent the majority of the time on the Quad because calculations rarely favor my swing. Either way, it was a blast. Chasing that number has always been something I've wanted to do, and if i can get there, will really maximize my distance. We all agreed that with my swing, the benefits of 435cc with the way I square at impact seem to outweigh the need for extra CCs in forgiveness. I tend to agree, as my contact doesn't stray too far -- But golfers who have contact that strays from a certain location will benefit greatly from the 460 profile.
                          In my Team Hackers Vessel/Cobra Arnold Palmer Stand Bag

                          KING F9 Speedback 9* Driver
                          KING F9 Speedback 13.5* Tour Fairway
                          Z U85 18* Utility Iron
                          KING F9 Speedback 4/5 Irons
                          KING Forged TEC Black 6-G Irons
                          RTX4 Black 50/54/58 Wedges
                          Super Rat

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pkielwa View Post
                            As with all drivers, go through a fitting, but it is funny that TM’s marketing line of “everyone gets faster” was immediately dispelled by Rick Shiels showing no higher ball speeds vs M3/M4. When they say “everyone”, it should mean everyone... With the launch and spin he was getting, looks like TM should’ve marketed toward their holy grail of 17* launch, and 1700 spin....
                            Lord knows, it’s impossible for “everyone” to be faster these days, so why they went that route, I have NO idea.

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
                            DISCLAIMER - I haven't watched the Rick Shiels video or read the TM website blurb

                            Based on what little I have read, are they hinting that the 'everyone gets faster' line implies to people who don't hit the centre of the driver on every shot?
                            From what I understand, the sweetspot on every driver these days is pretty much at the limit, and it is off-centre hits where the loss in ball speed is now less and less?
                            Bag - Tech Lock

                            Driver - Epic Flash Subzero 9* - Evenflow Green 6.0
                            Fairway - Epic Flash Subzero 3W 15* - Evenflow Green 6.0

                            Utility - ZU85 18* - Recoil 95 F4

                            Irons - Z785 4i - 6i, Z-Forged 7i - PW NS Pro Modus3 Tour 105

                            Wedges - RTX4 50/54/58 Tour Satin - DG S400

                            Putter - O-Works 1W
                            Ball - Chrome Soft X

                            He who hesitates is not only lost, but miles from the next exit

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                            • #44
                              TaylorMade M5 and M6 Drivers

                              Originally posted by radiman View Post
                              So are the holes simply an elite could into the driver head? I would really love to see a deconstructed head to see what it's all about under the hood.
                              Glad you asked, as I just got confirmation that I could share a photo.

                              Basically, each location has a cavity that is filled with a certain amount of resin. No two heads are the same, and as these photos show, the difference between the two can be great or small. It's all about tuning to that number using their algorithm. It is then sealed and glued with these screws, which have no genuine impact on flight according to their data.



                              In my Team Hackers Vessel/Cobra Arnold Palmer Stand Bag

                              KING F9 Speedback 9* Driver
                              KING F9 Speedback 13.5* Tour Fairway
                              Z U85 18* Utility Iron
                              KING F9 Speedback 4/5 Irons
                              KING Forged TEC Black 6-G Irons
                              RTX4 Black 50/54/58 Wedges
                              Super Rat

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Jman View Post
                                There’s a couple of the vids out there that have some shots of the head cut open to see. It’s pretty cool.
                                I'll have to check them out this evening. It's too hard to look like I'm working when watching videos. Reading a forum is much easier to get away with :)
                                REPRESENTING THP IN THE 2019 GRANDADDY!!!!!

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