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  • #16
    Originally posted by Zbuechner4 View Post
    Great review James. Enjoyed seeing the data comparisons with the charts. Really helps paint a better picture.

    I see you had fairly significant shorter distances with the Prov1 compared to the X in the last chart, yet the numbers showed less spin. I always equated less spin = more distance. Here’s my question: do you think the ProV1 would’ve been longer if the ball speeds were more similar? Or would we only see the distance be further for the Prov1 when using a longer iron like a 7iron? Or maybe neither and this is just a product of your particular swing that shows the X is a better fit?

    My apologies for the long-winded question!


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    Additionally, you can compare the 7i thing in the charts further up the review, though I left the distances out of that, the rest of the data tells the story pretty good IMO.

    Thanks for reading dude.
    WITB:
    TaylorMade
    - M6 9.0 -
    UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
    TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
    PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
    Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
    Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
    SWAG
    - Tour Proto Savage Too -
    Center-Shaft 373g
    Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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    • #17
      James, what a job well done here. Love the very easy to understand comparison. Like you said, the gains aren't huge, but they are there like Titleist claims. I mean it's 1-2mph with the driver which means at least 3-4 yards longer not counting in spin effects, which is pretty substantial. I'm with you that the ProV1x has been the ball for my game that I would grab from the line. I wonder how you'd fare with the AVX and how it'd compare to the others for you. In any event, fantastic stuff here.
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      Rogue Sub Zero 3W (15) Project X Even Flow Blue
      BBA 815 3H (19) Fujikura Speeder 865
      JPX 919 Forged 4-GW ​True Temper DG 120 TI [Thanks to Ultimate Weekend!]
      Mack Daddy 4 54 X / MD3 Milled 58 W True Temper DGTI 120 / Onyx Wedge
      O-Works #7s Black
      Chrome Soft X


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      • #18
        Very well laid out review! As mentioned by everyone else, I too really like the ball to ball comparison. It tells a good story about the improvements a company has made on their ball and where that might come into play for us. I'm a numbers nerd and welcome this format again in the future. Thanks again!!
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        Driver: EPIC FLASH 9* w/ HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.5
        3W: EPIC FLASH w/ HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.5
        5W: EPIC FLASH w/ HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.5
        Hybrid: Apex 23* w/ Catalyst 70 6.0
        Irons: Apex 5-AW w/ Elevate Tour Stiff
        Wedges: MD4 54W 58W DG S200 115
        Stroke Lab Seven S / EXO Stroke Lab Seven S
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        • #19
          Originally posted by tpluff View Post
          James, what a job well done here. Love the very easy to understand comparison. Like you said, the gains aren't huge, but they are there like Titleist claims. I mean it's 1-2mph with the driver which means at least 3-4 yards longer not counting in spin effects, which is pretty substantial. I'm with you that the ProV1x has been the ball for my game that I would grab from the line. I wonder how you'd fare with the AVX and how it'd compare to the others for you. In any event, fantastic stuff here.
          I've played with the AVX a bit at the end of this summer. Too low launch and too low spin for me.

          Thank you!
          WITB:
          TaylorMade
          - M6 9.0 -
          UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
          TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
          PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
          Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
          Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
          SWAG
          - Tour Proto Savage Too -
          Center-Shaft 373g
          Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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          • #20
            I know you're a human and not a robot as stated in the article, but your final chart is super telling in my eyes. That is a rather large gap between ball carry comparing the two. Assuming the average person would see the same results, I would rather have a ball that carries that extra little bit as I have a tendency to come up short.
            In my C130 Cart Bag:

            Driver: Rogue Sub Zero w/ Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff Shaft @ 43.5"
            3W: Big Berth Alpha 816
            5W: Amp Cell
            Irons: F7 One Length 5-G
            Wedge: RTX-3 CB 54*/58* (Also carry CBX in 50*)
            Putter: Huntington Beach #4 34 inch OR
            SWAG Savage Too Proto 34 inch OR
            SWAG Handsome One Vice 34 Inch
            Shoes: ECCO Biom Hybrid 3 BOA (white)

            Rolling around in my Caddytek EZ Fold V1 cart

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ketron10a View Post
              I know you're a human and not a robot as stated in the article, but your final chart is super telling in my eyes. That is a rather large gap between ball carry comparing the two. Assuming the average person would see the same results, I would rather have a ball that carries that extra little bit as I have a tendency to come up short.
              This is part of why I really didn't want to include that chart though. Look at the ball speed differences, those are going to equate more from SS differences than anything else. This is why I would take that one with a grain of salt and the reason I wish I'd had more time to really flesh out that sample size.
              WITB:
              TaylorMade
              - M6 9.0 -
              UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
              TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
              PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
              Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
              Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
              SWAG
              - Tour Proto Savage Too -
              Center-Shaft 373g
              Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jman View Post
                I've played with the AVX a bit at the end of this summer. Too low launch and too low spin for me.

                Thank you!
                Good deal. The V1X looks like it has some really good numbers for you! Appreciate you coming back and responding to questions and comments.
                GBB Epic Sub Zero 9 ​UST Mamiya HeLIUM Prototype
                Rogue Sub Zero 3W (15) Project X Even Flow Blue
                BBA 815 3H (19) Fujikura Speeder 865
                JPX 919 Forged 4-GW ​True Temper DG 120 TI [Thanks to Ultimate Weekend!]
                Mack Daddy 4 54 X / MD3 Milled 58 W True Temper DGTI 120 / Onyx Wedge
                O-Works #7s Black
                Chrome Soft X


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jman View Post
                  Additionally, you can compare the 7i thing in the charts further up the review, though I left the distances out of that, the rest of the data tells the story pretty good IMO.

                  Thanks for reading dude.
                  I did read that part as well. But I think you did a great job with this one. Thanks for the work you put into this one James and I appreciate you answering my question as well!



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                  DRIVER:
                  G410 Plus 9* Fujikura Atmos Black TS 7X
                  3WOOD: TS2 13.5* (B2) PX Even Flow T1100 6.5 (Tipped 1")
                  3 HYBRID: Aeroburner 19* Accra FX-H300
                  4-PW IRONS: Z765 2* Flat KBS Tour X-Flex 130
                  WEDGES: Vokey SM7 Brushed Steel: 50F, 54F, and 60D with TT DG S400 Tour Issue
                  PUTTER: Mullen 2 Brushed Copper 34
                  BALL: ERC Soft

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                  • #24
                    Outstanding job James (as usual!!!)!!! Enjoyed the review!!
                    WITB
                    Callaway Epic 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 Shaft (R)
                    Callaway Rogue 3 Wood Evenflow Blue 65 Shaft (R)
                    Rogue Hybrids (3,4) Evenflow Blue 85 Shafts R
                    Callaway CF 16 Irons 5-AW Recoil Proto 95 Shafts F3
                    Callaway MD Wedges, 54, 58 Recoil Proto 95 Shafts F3
                    Putter: Cameron Newport, 34"

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                    • #25
                      Great comparison. I sounds like they were able to do what they set out to.

                      The 1X has always been a better fit for me with more spin and higher flight, it sounds like I need to give the latest version a try.
                      In my Alpha Convoy 514
                      Epic Flash THCE HZRDUS
                      BB Alpha 816 4W HZRDUS Smoke 80 6.0
                      Apex 20 3h HZRDUS 85 6.5
                      XForged UT 21, 24, 5-PW, MB AW 6.0
                      Vokey SM6 56 M, 60 L
                      Toulon Garage San Diego
                      ChromeSoft X |||
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                      • #26
                        Appreciate the reads, everyone.
                        WITB:
                        TaylorMade
                        - M6 9.0 -
                        UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
                        TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
                        PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
                        Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
                        Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
                        SWAG
                        - Tour Proto Savage Too -
                        Center-Shaft 373g
                        Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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                        • #27
                          AWESOME REVIEW JAMES!

                          Love seeing data being used to "do the talking" about what the balls do (and dont do). It sounds like based on your information provided that Titleist has indeed accomplished what they set out to do when it comes to these offerings.

                          I was initially surprised the X spun less with driver and 7I (I naively thought the X would have more spin across the board) but then I read your next paragraph about making sure not to jeopardize distance and then it all made sense.

                          While Im too cheap to splurge on these as my gamers, I'm hoping to find lots of them on the golf course this year to put in play (specifically the X as I am a low spin player as well).

                          Also 800 more RPM (between the 2 new balls) on little 55 yard wedge shots is huge!
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                          WITB:

                          Driver:
                          G400 MAX 11.5*
                          Woods: Rogue Heavenwood
                          Hybrids: N/A

                          Irons:
                          585 Irons 5-AW with Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap shafts
                          Wedges: RTX4 54/58
                          Putter: Custom
                          Ball:
                          Q-Star Tour

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                          • #28
                            Solid review Jman! I'm going to be giving the ProV1 a shot this weekend so I'm interested to see how it performs.

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                            • #29
                              Now that I have gone back and read the review again, I can say that there is not a better of this type of review found anywhere. It truly is impressive. The comparisons are so good and could really help a lot of people understand which ball might be better for them. Thanks again.
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                              KING F9 SPEEDBACK Driver, 9*
                              KING F9 SPEEDBACK 3-4, 14.5*
                              KING F9 SPEEDBACK Tour 4-5, 17.5*
                              KING F9 SPEEDBACK Irons, 4 - gw
                              KING F9 Black Wedges, 54* and 58*
                              Putter: Piretti Matera Workshop

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                              • #30
                                Awesome review JMan! I was waiting for a review to come up, it was just a matter of time. This is great comparison of the two balls to help us average 'hackers' decide which to game. I can't wait to try the ProV1 in the upcoming season with the TS2. More ball speed with the ball & the driver .... what an awesome combination!
                                Driver: TS2 HZRDUS Smoke 6.0
                                Fairways: TS2 13.5* & TS2 19* HZRDUS Smoke
                                Irons: 718 T-MB 4-iron & AP3 5-PW Pxi 5.5 MCC Align
                                Wedges: Vokeys SM6 48*, 52*, 56*
                                Putter: Newport
                                Ball: ProV1

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                                2019 ????


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