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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mr Boof View Post
    JMan, would you go 54/58 or just go 54 and keep the 60? I'm almost thinking that just a 54 would work as I don't full swing the 60 ever.

    Totally agree on the bounce for that spot if I use that as my bunker club. however, if I went 54/58, could always go higher bounce on the 58 and use that instead? So many options :(
    I’m a little different than some of the comments you will get and have gotten here. I’m not part of the ‘constant loft gap’ army.

    I play 47, 53, 60. I never full swing my 60, so staying 60 gives me more versatility than a 58 does.
    WITB:
    TaylorMade
    - M6 9.0 -
    UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
    TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
    PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
    Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
    Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
    SWAG
    - Tour Proto Savage Too -
    Center-Shaft 373g
    Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jman View Post
      60 gives me more versatility than a 58 does.
      So what is it that a 60 does for you that a 58 can't? I take it's not a distance thing?

      The 2 degrees for me going from 56 to 54 is so i can play to a distance.

      I'm curious as you play to a much better handicap than i do!

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      WITB
      Driver: Ping G400 LST, Tour Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
      3 Wood: Cobra Amp 3 wood, Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
      3 Hybrid: Titleist H818 H2, Project X Evenflow Blue 6.5, MCC+4
      Irons 4-7: Srixon 765, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
      Irons 8-PA: Srixon 965, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
      Gap Wedge: Cobra Tour Trusty Rusty 50*, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
      Sand Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 54* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
      Lob Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 58* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
      Putter: TaylorMade Spider Blade

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mr Boof View Post
        So what is it that a 60 does for you that a 58 can't? I take it's not a distance thing?

        The 2 degrees for me going from 56 to 54 is so i can play to a distance.

        I'm curious as you play to a much better handicap than i do!

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        Height.

        Since it’s a partial and touch shot only club, I want the most playable loft I can put into that spot.
        WITB:
        TaylorMade
        - M6 9.0 -
        UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
        TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
        PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
        Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
        Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
        SWAG
        - Tour Proto Savage Too -
        Center-Shaft 373g
        Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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        • #19
          I know personally if I was you I would keep the current set up and add a 53 degree wedge, giving you 50-53-56-60. If you have a 25 yard gap between two clubs, it means you need to stick another one in there, so just do that! Don’t worry about the loft. If your full swing on your 50 carries 115 yards, and your full swing on 56 carries 90, then go get fit for a wedge that carries 100-105 on average, regardless of what number is on it! That might be anything from a 52 to a 54 degree club, might be any length any manufacturer, but it doesn’t matter. Remember you’re trying to fill gaps, and in my opinion having tight and explicitly known gaps in your clubs under 150 yards is critical to everyone’s game.
          Driver: Epic 9* with Aldila Rogue Silver 60x Shaft
          3 Wood: Epic 15* with Aldila Rogue Silver 70x Shaft
          Irons: 20-44* PTX with Dynamic Gold S300 Shaft
          Wedges: 48-60* TK-15 with Dynamic Gold S300 Shaft
          Putter: Works 2017 V-Line Fang CH

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jman View Post
            I’d err on the side of the higher bounce option, in that spot of the bag, bounce is your friend.
            How about Cobra’s WideLow offering in that slot?
            "I'm kind of amazed that people actually toast their PopTarts. They're perfect, right out of the wrapper. Except the unfrosted ones, they're never perfect and always a slap in the face to America." - blugold

            Bag: 3.5
            Driver: Z565
            Fairway: Rocketballz Stage 2 3w
            Utility: Exotics 2 Ironwood
            Irons: JGR HF2 4-P
            Wedges: CBX 48, 52, 58
            Putter: Tyne H
            Ball: AVX

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            • #21
              Thanks all for your replies.

              If you had to choose one of the below manufacturers who would you choose and why?
              Callaway
              Cleveland
              Cobra
              Taylor Made
              Titleist

              Note this is for a non high toe style wedge preferably in black.

              Cheers.


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              WITB
              Driver: Ping G400 LST, Tour Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
              3 Wood: Cobra Amp 3 wood, Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
              3 Hybrid: Titleist H818 H2, Project X Evenflow Blue 6.5, MCC+4
              Irons 4-7: Srixon 765, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
              Irons 8-PA: Srixon 965, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
              Gap Wedge: Cobra Tour Trusty Rusty 50*, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
              Sand Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 54* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
              Lob Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 58* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
              Putter: TaylorMade Spider Blade

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mr Boof View Post
                Thanks all for your replies.

                If you had to choose one of the below manufacturers who would you choose and why?
                Callaway
                Cleveland
                Cobra
                Taylor Made
                Titleist

                Note this is for a non high toe style wedge preferably in black.

                Cheers.


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                IMO I think the Cleveland rtx4's are the best wedge out right now. I'm able to play any shot from every lie.. tight lie, soft, bunkers. Lots of spin!!!... Plenty of bounce and sole options. I played vokeys for years and finally realized I was paying for the name and not performance.

                They have a black finish also, although I love my raw version
                Hogan GS53 10.5* UST Mamiya LIN-Q 6F5
                TM M6 3w 15* UST Mamiya LIN-Q 7F5
                TM M6 5w 19* GD AD IZ 7tx
                New Level 4995 UT 2i LA Golf Altus Black Tie 105x
                Sub 70 639 CB 4 - 6 Project X 6.5
                Sub 70 639 MB 7 - P Project X 6.5
                Cleveland RTX 4 52*, 58* PX 7.0 Black
                2019 Bettinardi Queen B#6

                1) Bridgestone B XS 2) Bridgestone B X

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mr Boof View Post
                  Thanks all for your replies.

                  If you had to choose one of the below manufacturers who would you choose and why?
                  Callaway
                  Cleveland
                  Cobra
                  Taylor Made
                  Titleist

                  Note this is for a non high toe style wedge preferably in black.

                  Cheers.


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                  I’ve owned/played all of those and I’d rank them:

                  Cleveland
                  Taylormade
                  Titleist
                  Cobra
                  Callaway
                  WITB:
                  TaylorMade
                  - M6 9.0 -
                  UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 77F5
                  TaylorMade - Original One 13.5 - Fujikura Evolution V X
                  PING - G410 19.0/22.0 - Alta CB 70S
                  Callaway - Apex CF19 Combo 5-PW - True Temper Elevate X100
                  Cleveland - RTX4 Raw 48M/54M/60XL - DG TI S400
                  SWAG
                  - Tour Proto Savage Too -
                  Center-Shaft 373g
                  Taylormade - 2019 TP5x


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                  • #24
                    Personally I go 46* PW to 50* AW to 54*SW to 58* LW. The gapping there is usually pretty good as long as I do my part.
                    King F9 Tour Length Driver Prototype Stiff Shaft
                    King F8 3/4W Pro Green 7/8W NVS
                    Steelhead XR 3H Stiff Shaft
                    King Forged TEC Black 5i-PW Recoil 780 F3 Black SW
                    CBX Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* Rotex Shafts
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                    • #25
                      I've made up my mind to go 54 and 58 in the RTX4. Thought that'd be the case but multiple comments suggest the RTX4.

                      Now to decide on bounce options!

                      If I'm going to use the 54 for full shots so was thinking Full grind and fairly high bounce for bunker shots.

                      Local shop rep was suggesting full grind but low bounce for the 58. Having not had great experience from these guys previously what are your thoughts on full grind low bounce on a 58degree wedge?

                      Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
                      WITB
                      Driver: Ping G400 LST, Tour Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                      3 Wood: Cobra Amp 3 wood, Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                      3 Hybrid: Titleist H818 H2, Project X Evenflow Blue 6.5, MCC+4
                      Irons 4-7: Srixon 765, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                      Irons 8-PA: Srixon 965, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                      Gap Wedge: Cobra Tour Trusty Rusty 50*, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                      Sand Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 54* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                      Lob Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 58* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                      Putter: TaylorMade Spider Blade

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                      • #26
                        Id go with a 54/50 setup. That will leave you with a 50/54/58 setup and would give you good gapping with your your PW. As for bounce, it really just depends upon what you need and what conditions you play in. I wouldnt say that bounce is really dependent on loft. I personally prefer more bounce because it makes the club less resistant to digging and more forgiving but if youre a sweeper and dont take much of a divot, less bounce might help you.
                        Whats in my C130 cart bag?
                        Woods: Bazooka 10.5 driver, 906F4 16.5* and Tommy Armour Atomic 18*
                        Irons: AP1 4-AW
                        Wedges: Tommy Armour VCG 54* and Gamer 60*
                        Putter: Scotty Cameron Detour
                        Ball: Velocity

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                        • #27
                          I would go 50/54/58 and that should gap the way you need/want.

                          in terms of what wedges/brands that is so personal IMO and you just need to get each in hand and see how you like them at address. Personally i really like the RTX wedges for their versatility, but i can't get over their longer hosel length. Also if you like the looks the PM grind would be my choice for the 58* spot. It makes bunker play so much easier than a standard wedge imo.
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                          Callaway Epic Flash 10.5° | UST Elements Chrome F4
                          Callaway Epic Flash 3+ 15.5° | Project X Even Flow Green 6.0
                          Callaway Epic Flash Heavenwood 20° | Project X Even Flow Green 6.0
                          Callaway CF-19 Apex Smoke Combo 5-AW | TT Elevate Tour Black S
                          Callaway PM Grind 19 Tour Grey 54°/14 | 58°/12 | TT Elevate Tour Black S
                          Toulon Stroke Lab Las Vegas | Chrome Soft **


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mr Boof View Post
                            I've made up my mind to go 54 and 58 in the RTX4. Thought that'd be the case but multiple comments suggest the RTX4.

                            Now to decide on bounce options!

                            If I'm going to use the 54 for full shots so was thinking Full grind and fairly high bounce for bunker shots.

                            Local shop rep was suggesting full grind but low bounce for the 58. Having not had great experience from these guys previously what are your thoughts on full grind low bounce on a 58degree wedge?

                            Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
                            I really think you will like the RTX 4’s. They have been my favorite wedges that I have owned.
                            WITB
                            Srixon Z785 Driver 9.5* W/Aldila Rogue Silver Stiff
                            Srixon F85 3W 15* W/ Aldila Rogue Black Stiff
                            Srixon H85 Hybrid 16*
                            Srixon U85 22*
                            Srixon Z785 5-PW W/C-Taper Lites
                            Cleveland RTX 4 Raw Mid 50, 54 & 58 C Taper Lites
                            Odyssey SL Double Wide 34.5”
                            Srixon Z-Star

                            2019 Distance Powered by Srixon & Cleveland Golf #TeamNoelle

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                            • #29
                              Thank you all. Its been fun throwing ideas around!

                              Looks like I'll be placing tee order on the following.

                              RTX 4 in Black Satin. 54 Mid 10degrees of bounce (only option available in 54 degrees) with Nippon Tour 120s

                              RTX 4 in Black Satin. 58 Mid 9 degrees of bounce with Nippon Tour 120s. Chose mid as i do like to open the wedge face a bit. Could have gone low but unsure if that'd have too much of a negative impact on greenside bunker splash shots.

                              Will order soon. Waiting on prices to come back.

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                              WITB
                              Driver: Ping G400 LST, Tour Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                              3 Wood: Cobra Amp 3 wood, Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                              3 Hybrid: Titleist H818 H2, Project X Evenflow Blue 6.5, MCC+4
                              Irons 4-7: Srixon 765, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                              Irons 8-PA: Srixon 965, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                              Gap Wedge: Cobra Tour Trusty Rusty 50*, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                              Sand Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 54* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                              Lob Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 58* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                              Putter: TaylorMade Spider Blade

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                              • #30
                                New wedges are in and first round in the bag! Didn't bother with a gapping session, just straight out to test them and see what happens!
                                Results are good. I was absolutely shocked to see how much spin these things create!
                                Had an 84 metre approach to a mid-back pin with a green that slopes back to front. Hit the 54 degree wedge so pure, pitched 10cm's from the hole, but sucked back down the hill close to 10 metres! Lesson learnt. Full shots will spin like crazy!

                                So far loving the shaft combo, it allows me to swing freely unlike the S400 shafts in the Cobra Wedges I replaced. Not sure why, but just prefer the lighter weight of the shaft in these wedges. I now see why people rave about these wedges as they are superb.
                                WITB
                                Driver: Ping G400 LST, Tour Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                                3 Wood: Cobra Amp 3 wood, Stiff Shaft, MCC+4 grip
                                3 Hybrid: Titleist H818 H2, Project X Evenflow Blue 6.5, MCC+4
                                Irons 4-7: Srixon 765, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                                Irons 8-PA: Srixon 965, Nippon Modus Tour 120S, MCC+4
                                Gap Wedge: Cobra Tour Trusty Rusty 50*, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                                Sand Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 54* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                                Lob Wedge: Cleveland RTX4, 58* 2DOT, Nippon Modus 120S, MCC+4
                                Putter: TaylorMade Spider Blade

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