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  • Has anyone gone to graphite shafts and then went back to steel?

    Just a curious question.

    I went graphite a couple of years ago due to being diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. In the last year and a half since Iíve been on medication Iíve gotten it under control and pain and stiffness have not plagued me for quite a while. Iím debating about potentially moving back to steel shafts. Iím an R flex guy and Iíve picked up some demo clubs on occasion when I find them in LH sitting out for a swing and Iíve generally like the feel of the Nippons Iíve hit in a couple of iron heads.

    Iím thinking Iíd like to get less spin as well. Even in heads be owned that were considered distance irons I had no problems getting what would be considered normal spin numbers. I could still spin a big Bertha os 7 iron around 7000 rpm with a recoil shaft. Iím not a long hitter so Iím assuming less spin will help grab some extra yards since graphite tends to spin more from what Iíve seen.

    If others made the switch back to steel, what was you experience?


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    Rogue Driver 10.5
    Epic Flash 3w
    Rogue X 3h
    G410 4h
    G700 5-UW
    CBX 54
    RTX-3 CB 58
    GOLO 5


  • #2
    Has anyone gone to graphite shafts and then went back to steel?

    Graphite doesnít spin more than a steel. One area graphite excels is its ability to be weight independent, rather than dependent as steel is.

    One can go graphite or steel and find just about any spin profile they want.
    In my 2018 #TheGrandaddy THP Event Bag

    Driver:
    Epic Flash w/ Helium Shaft 45"
    Driver 2: XXIO Prime w/
    Custom THP HZRDUS Shaft 43.5"
    Fairway Wood:
    5 Wood
    Hybrids: Launcher HB
    Irons: Apex 19 w/ Recoil Proto 95
    Wedges:
    CBX 50* and RTX-4 56* & 60* PM Grind 19
    Putter: EXO Stroke Lab Marxman
    Balls:
    Chrome Soft X

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    • #3
      You'd have to test against your own clubs to see if you got less spin. I would be careful though as spin is not a bad thing with irons. It gives you a lot of control and reduction will drop the amount of control.you have on the ball.
      Epic Flash 10.5* EvenFlow Black 65g 6.0
      917 F2 16.5* HZRDUS EvenFlow White 75g 6.0
      CBX 119 20* hybrid with EvenFlow Blue 70g 6.0
      JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 R
      Vokey SM7 54.08 M Dynamic Gold Wedge
      Hi Toe 60 KBS Wedge 2.0
      Precision Milled BHB02 Super Stroke Slim 3.0

      Proud member of TEEm in 2019!!

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      • #4
        I've played graphite off and on for years. I currently have a set of Titleist AP1's with Tensei red graphite shafts and a set of Maltby TS-2's with the new TT Elevate 95 light weight steel. For me and my low speed swing, I find the principle difference in graphite and steel comes down to shock absorption, given similar weights and bend profiles. These days you can get both graphite and steel shafts in a wide range of weights and bend profiles. If you want low spin graphite, you can get it. If you want high spin steel, you can get it. As far as your RA, I have an autoimmune connective tissue disease (lupus) and have found I can tolerate steel for a while, but invariably have to go back to graphite.

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        • #5
          Have been playing graphite for about 4.5 years. Tried steel again about 3 years ago for 2 rounds and almost immediately realized why I switched in the first place. Won't make that mistake again. It is all about the significant vibration dampening of graphite for me and my upper arms / shoulders.
          Driver: GS53 10.5 w/ Accra TZ6
          FWs: GS53 3W & 5W w/ Helium 5F4
          Hybrid:
          VKTR 22* w/ iRoD 75
          Irons: PTx Pro 5 - PW w/ Recoil 780 ES SW
          Wedges: Equalizer 50, 54, 58 w/ Recoil 780 ES SW
          Putter: BHB03
          Ball: B330-RX / Tour B RX

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          • #6
            Iíve contemplated throwing the set of graphite irons into an old set of clubs, but never got around to it. The shafts are sitting here collecting dust. Maybe one day.


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            Driver: J715 9.5* HZRDUS Black
            Fairway: J40 3+ Tour AD-Di 7s
            Hybrid: 3H 6.5
            Irons: J15DF 4-PW DG PRO S300
            Wedges: NewLevel M50, 54, 58 120S
            Putter: CX1
            Ball: B330-RX

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gmiller598 View Post
              Just a curious question.

              I went graphite a couple of years ago due to being diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. In the last year and a half since I’ve been on medication I’ve gotten it under control and pain and stiffness have not plagued me for quite a while. I’m debating about potentially moving back to steel shafts. I’m an R flex guy and I’ve picked up some demo clubs on occasion when I find them in LH sitting out for a swing and I’ve generally like the feel of the Nippons I’ve hit in a couple of iron heads.

              I’m thinking I’d like to get less spin as well. Even in heads be owned that were considered distance irons I had no problems getting what would be considered normal spin numbers. I could still spin a big Bertha os 7 iron around 7000 rpm with a recoil shaft. I’m not a long hitter so I’m assuming less spin will help grab some extra yards since graphite tends to spin more from what I’ve seen.

              If others made the switch back to steel, what was you experience?


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              Lots of players try graphite shafted irons but then eventually switch back to steel. I guess one primary reason is that the relative light weight of graphite causes some players to have swing tempo problems.
              It's true that graphite iron shafts are available in heavier weights, such as more than 100 grams, but when graphite gets that heavy it tends to "feel" heavy-sluggish-rigid, lacking the active-dynamic sensation
              of steel.
              Driver: Ping G400 LST Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6S
              Fairway metals: Cleveland Launcher HB 15* Miyazaki C.Kua 5S
              Hybrid: Cleveland Launcher HB 19* Miyazaki C.Kua 6S
              Irons: Ping G700 4-SW Project X LZ 5.5
              Wedge: Ping G400 58* LW Project X LZ 5.5
              Putter: Byron Morgan DH89 w/ putter grip

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DG_1234 View Post
                Lots of players try graphite shafted irons but then eventually switch back to steel. I guess one primary reason is that the relative light weight of graphite causes some players to have swing tempo problems.
                It's true that graphite iron shafts are available in heavier weights, such as more than 100 grams, but when graphite gets that heavy it tends to "feel" heavy-sluggish-rigid, lacking the active-dynamic sensation
                of steel.
                That hasn't been my experience at all. Maybe at one point it was, but I have 110 recoils and they don't feel anything close to heavy sluggish or rigid.
                Callaway: Epic 9*
                Callaway: Rouge SZ 13.5*
                Callaway: XR 16 pro 18*
                Callaway: X-forged UT 21*
                Srixon: Z765 5-PW
                Vokey: SM6 48 SM5 54/58
                Toulon: Garage Atlanta

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cbaker2882 View Post
                  That hasn't been my experience at all. Maybe at one point it was, but I have 110 recoils and they don't feel anything close to heavy sluggish or rigid.
                  My Recoil 125's seem to have enough weight in 'em.

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                  • #10
                    I tried recoils a few years ago, but went back to steel when I was fit prior to going to the Grandaddy. Originally tried graphite because I was getting some elbow pain, which definitely went away with the graphite. After being fit into the Modus steel shafts I've had zero pain issues. That said, I'd happily game graphite again if it was properly fit for me.
                    WITB:
                    Epic Flash 9.5˚
                    Epic Flash 3W
                    Rogue 3H, 4H
                    Apex CF19 5-PW

                    MD4 48S/54S
                    PM Grind 58˚
                    Toulon SL Las Vegas

                    Grandaddy Alumni Team PRESTIGE 2017

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                    • #11
                      I switched from graphite to steel when I was fit for my MC 17 clubs, but had to go back to graphite thanks to wrist/elbow pain. Since going back to graphite, I haven't had a wrist/elbow issue at all.
                      WITB
                      Driver: F9 SPEEDBACK 10.5* (+1*)
                      Fairway: F9 SPEEDBACK 3/4 (15.5*)
                      Hybrids: Rogue 3 & 4
                      Irons: Rogue 5-AW
                      Wedges: CBX 54*, 58*
                      Putter: Stroke Lab Seven S
                      Ball: ERC Soft


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                      • #12
                        I went from Recoils for a few years back to Elevate 95ís this year. Simply because they felt just as good to me as the Recoils and Catalyst shafts I tried. The price difference was what kept me in the elevates this time around. Would go back to graphite again no problems though in the future.
                        WITB: In My 2015 #TeamRedemption Grandaddy Bag

                        Driver: GBB Epic with ProForce V2 Tour
                        FW: Great Big Bertha 3W with Fuji Speeder 665 Evo II
                        Hybrids: Apex 3H, 4H, with Kuro Kage
                        Irons: Apex CF19 5-A with True Temper Elevate 95
                        Wedges: PM Grind 2.0 54ļ, 58ļ with KBS High Rev 2.0
                        Putter: Red Ball
                        Ball: ChromeSoft Truvis

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                        • #13
                          I went back to steel for a really short time when I chosen to test the M4 irons. I just couldn't get comfortable and starting noticing a little more joint pain after a few months. Too me graphite just feels more fluid and smooth, but all of this said - if I actually got fit someday and I would definitely switch back to steel if someone truly believed it would help my game.
                          In my Grom Stand Bag
                          ST190 Driver with Accra TZ6
                          ST180 3 Wood/5 Wood with Tensei Blue
                          Sub70 939X Hybrid 4
                          M4 (5-PW with Recoil SMACWRAP 780 shafts)
                          54 Milled Grind & 58 Milled Grind Hi Toe
                          Spider X
                          Current ball: TP5X & Velocity

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                          • #14
                            It would be hard for me to back to steel. I have hit a few clubs with steel shafts in them and the feel for me just isn't the same.....
                            Brian
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                            In my - LUX 2.0 Black / White 14 Way Cart Bag:
                            Driver - F9 9.5* HeLium Proto F5 49g 4X stiff 45"
                            3W - CBX 119 15* HZRDUS Smoke 65 6.0 S
                            2 Hy - CBX 119 20* EvenFlow Black 85 6.0 S
                            4I - ZU85 23* Recoil 95 F4
                            5I-PW - Z765 Recoil 110 F4
                            GW - RTX-4 50* Mid Recoil 110 F4
                            SW - RTX-4 54* Mid Recoil 125 F4
                            LW - RTX-4 58* Full Recoil 125 F4 Proto
                            Grips - MCC +4 Midsize Grey Color
                            Putter - DB2x 34" Pro X 1.32
                            Ball - Q Star Tour


                            2017 THP Regional Rivalry - ILL/MO vs MN/WI Champions sponsored by @ Tournament Club of Iowa Des Moines
                            2018 The Game Changer by with World Long Drive Champion & Tour Pro Jamie Sadlowski @ Talking Stick Resort Scottsdale
                            2018 Shaft Up #3 by @ Olympia Fields Country Club Chicago
                            2018 Shaft Up Finale by @ Mission Inn Club Orlando
                            2019 TEEm Tour Edge Participant
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                            • #15
                              The VSS in the Elevates is enough to bring me back to steel shafts. They feel really, really good.
                              Proud member of Team THP in the 2018 Granddaddy with

                              Driver: Epic Flash With Custom HZRDUS Smoke
                              Fairway: Epic Flash with Tensei Blue 75
                              Hybrids: '19 Apex 3h and 4h with Catalyst 70
                              Irons: Apex Forged 5-PW w/ Elevate 95
                              Wedges: MD4 48-54-58 w/ Modus 105
                              Putter: Stroke Lab Three
                              Ball: Chrome Soft X

                              Thanks to PX and THP for an incredible Handcrafted Experience!

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