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  • Do you have an arch nemesis hole?

    I have two, at least at the courses I have played a bunch.

    One is the second hole at our local 9 hole muni. Itís a short Par 3 that has a green the size of a postage stamp, itís an absurd size for a local course that would challenge anyone. Itís literally crested in the center, and the design is simply a factor of the amount of space on the course.

    The other is a hole we play at our yearly scramble. Itís a long par 4 on the side of a hill, the left is tall grass, hit it there itís gone. The right is essentially a cliff/hill tall grass there too and at the bottom is the fairway on the 17th. Top it off with raised middle of the fairway that makes it a blind shot off the tee.

    Both get me every time.
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    Yes. 2 on the same course that I am hoping to bogey them both.
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    • #3
      The Ocean Course at Hokuala (Kauai) always gives me fits. I have lost close to 10 balls over 4 rounds on this hole. It can play between 425-450 (Par 4) into some wind. If I have a path, I ALWAYS go for it in two and I have had my fair share of Tin Cup moments where I have plunked multiple balls into the water. Sure I could go ahead and drop up by the water after the first one but hey what would Roy McAvoy do?


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      • #4
        The 16th at my home course,. It's a shortish par 4 (350ish) with a slight dogleg left. Green is elevated (upside down bowl) and no easy putts.

        I cannot figure it out. If I go driver I can get far enough up to leave an easy wedge in, but too straight or right and I'm dead.

        Playing shorter if you leave it left side you get blocked out on the approach.

        To top it off the trees both sides mean I often forget the wind and get my approach wrong.

        I've made a few birdies but too many times I've wiped it for no reason other than numpty shots

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SlightDraw View Post
          The Ocean Course at Hokuala (Kauai) always gives me fits. I have lost close to 10 balls over 4 rounds on this hole. It can play between 425-450 (Par 4) into some wind. If I have a path, I ALWAYS go for it in two and I have had my fair share of Tin Cup moments where I have plunked multiple balls into the water. Sure I could go ahead and drop up by the water after the first one but hey what would Roy McAvoy do?


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          • #6
            #8 on my home course is a Par 3 that can play from 175 to 210 depending on tee box and pin placement. bunkers on both sides of the green. I have a habit of hitting a snap hook off the tee.
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            • #7
              At my home course I have between 16 and 18 nemesis holes.

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              • #8
                The next one.
                You ain't bonafide.


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                • #9
                  The 5th at Apple Mountain, a pretty long double dogleg par-5 (Whites - 530 yds, Blues - 550 yds), and the only hole on the course that I've never made par. Tee shot is less than driver, out a chute, to a generous landing area (as long as you don't go through the fairway). Second shot cut as much of the corner on the right as you can, but a miss right puts you on a steep hillside above the fairway. Third shot is uphill to a small green. Even on my good days I'll either miss my approach with a money club in hand, or three putt for bogie. We won't talk about the bad days on this one.

                  The flyover video really doesn't do this one justice, as you don't get the feel of how steep the hillside is along the whole right side after the first dogleg, or how deep the grass is on that hillside.

                  Par 5 - Hdcp 3 - 413-571 yds: A true three shot, double dogleg par 5. Tee shot of 180-200 yards
                  is ideal. Best to keep your second shot simple, a 200 yard shot played just to the right of the 150 pole
                  is preferred. Uphill shot to the green plays one club longer.



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                  • #10
                    I have three in a row at maybe the toughest local course I play about once a month.

                    Holes 16, 17, and 18 wreck my rounds almost every time.

                    16 is a par 5 that forces me to lay up or else end up in a watery ditch. The second shot has water all down the left side with a fairway that funnels in that direction.

                    The green is surrounded by water on three sides, and is notoriously fast. Above it on the right are several bunkers. Very easy to roll into the water from one of these.

                    17 is a par short par three with water in front and a green that can just be ridiculous with certain pin placement.

                    18 is a short par 4 with an approach with water on 3 sides and again a slanted green with bunkers above.

                    This stretch is just above my current abilities.

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                    • #11
                      #11 at Morgan Creek is one where I just can't seem to find a good place off the tee 9 times out of 10. Even my good shots seem to find a bunker, a tree, or rough on a sidehill. Par is hard, bogey is likely.
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                      • #12
                        Mine is the third hole at a place I play quite a bit, since it's only five minutes from home. Also, the guy that runs the course often lets the local high school kids play for free, so my son and I can take a cart out for a quick 9 and it's only $18 total for the two of us. This hole just eats me alive. I'm just not accurate enough at all. I've played this hole well over a hundred times over the years and I don't think I've ever made par. Plenty of triples and worse though. One of these years I'll finally get smart and hit 9-iron 3 times in a row then hope to make the putt.

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                        Hole #3 420/360 yard Par4

                        This hole is and has been rated as one of the hardest holes in WNY!!! Play it once and you will not forget this place. The tee shot requires absolute precision w/ distance (and lots of time, LUCK!). Driver isnít always the wisest play here, as you want to get the ball down the left center of the fairway to have any chance of an ďeasyĒ second shot to a green thatís rarely hit in regulation. Take your medicine on this hole and be proud of a bogey!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OldeDude View Post
                          The 5th at Apple Mountain, a pretty long double dogleg par-5 (Whites - 530 yds, Blues - 550 yds), and the only hole on the course that I've never made par. Tee shot is less than driver, out a chute, to a generous landing area (as long as you don't go through the fairway). Second shot cut as much of the corner on the right as you can, but a miss right puts you on a steep hillside above the fairway. Third shot is uphill to a small green. Even on my good days I'll either miss my approach with a money club in hand, or three putt for bogie. We won't talk about the bad days on this one.

                          The flyover video really doesn't do this one justice, as you don't get the feel of how steep the hillside is along the whole right side after the first dogleg, or how deep the grass is on that hillside.

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                          Par 5 - Hdcp 3 - 413-571 yds: A true three shot, double dogleg par 5. Tee shot of 180-200 yards
                          is ideal. Best to keep your second shot simple, a 200 yard shot played just to the right of the 150 pole
                          is preferred. Uphill shot to the green plays one club longer.


                          I might not come back to that course based on that hole alone. Otherwise, put me down for an ESC 7 and let's get on with our day.
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                          • #14
                            Holes 1 and 3 at my home course always mess me up. I've let them get to me mentally and can't get over it. I'm such a mental case .
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                            • #15



                              my answer to the thread topic is yes, and one exists on pretty much every course i play. but this one in particular has my number.

                              itís long enough to require driver or a well-hit fairway wood. there is a big tree on the right, so you have to hit it perfectly straight or fade it. but about 70 yards ahead there is a big tree on the left. the street runs down the right, as well as some houses. to say there is a premium on accuracy is an understatement.

                              but as many fits as i have with the tee shot, the approach is just as bad. this is one of the bigger greens on the course, and there is very little trouble around it. long or right are dead. but for some reason, i have shanked and lost more balls ob right on this hole than any other i can remember. something about it is in my head, and i rarely ever hit a good approach shot.


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