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They are certainly stout, and I found them to be lower launching than the PXI or KBS Tour. I liked them alot, the reminded me of the DG S300 in graphite.
Are you sure the guy who has them in the Altitudes doesn't have VS proto's? I remember someone having those in the Altitude thread.
You are correct, my bad! All the more reason for me to trust a fitting and not choose based on my eyes or my heart.