I have used both these balls recently and I have yet to find much difference in them. I have a 105 SS and driver distance was pretty much the same around 275 The gamer felt just a tad harder off irons and putter. As for as short game I cannot tell much difference in the spin and im a high spin player. chips check up bout the same. just trying to pick just one ball to play all the time and I like both of these. Has any of you compared the two and if so which you like better and why? Thanks!