I just read that my kids school district had been giving out about 300 lunches a day for families that depend on those meals. And they have also loaned out 2000 chrome books for those who need them for online learning.
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Can't help you yet.... If you happened to glance at the next paragraph the authors basically state then need to collect more data, more specifics, but your point is well taken with me because COVID19 becomes a tipping point for many who have comorbidities and for many the cause of death is ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome, aka, pneumonia, fluid on the lungs etc.,) which smoking obviously compromises.... but not all deaths reported in those 99 subjects confirmed smoking as part of patient demographics.... Age too is a factor.....I guess I should go deeper, how many that ended up hospitalized were smokers or had previous respiratory issues.
Can't help you yet.... If you happened to glance at the next paragraph the authors basically state then need to collect more data, more specifics, but your point is well taken with me because COVID19 becomes a tipping point for many who have comorbidities and for many the cause of death is ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome, aka, pneumonia, fluid on the lungs etc.,) which smoking obviously compromises.... but not all deaths reported in those 99 subjects confirmed smoking as part of patient demographics.... Age too is a factor.....
These are certainly unprecedented times and the decisions are not easy.
Korea has tested over 250,000 and has 8,000 confirmed cases or about 3% of those tested. It would be nice to know what percentage of the general population has contracted Covid 19 and right now no country has that data. One big question is how long can we practice shelter in place before the fabric of our society breaks down. How long can we keep schools closed? 6 months? One year? Tens of thousands of small businesses will go out of business and millions of jobs wiped out. One of my buddies already laid off 20% of his workers and it’s likely those jobs won’t come back in the next 6 months. How will people react when they don’t have money for rent or food? How many suicides will result from the despair caused by the shelter in place? If this turns out to kill at a rate and number (35,000 U.S. deaths per year) similar to the season flu, is it worth it to shut down schools and businesses each year when this virus pops up?
A quote from the article.
One of the bottom lines is that we don’t know how long social distancing measures and lockdowns can be maintained without major consequences to the economy, society, and mental health. Unpredictable evolutions may ensue, including financial crisis, unrest, civil strife, war, and a meltdown of the social fabric. At a minimum, we need unbiased prevalence and incidence data for the evolving infectious load to guide decision-making.
For those of you living where it's warm enough to golf. Are courses closing or making changes due to the virus?
For those of you living where it's warm enough to golf. Are courses closing or making changes due to the virus?
He said it COULD reach 25 million if we don't shelter in place. California has over 40 million residents. There were already at least 10 counties with shelter in place directives. I live in California and welcome the new directive. I don't want this virus, do you?
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My district is doing the same, although there were a lot fewer people that borrowed the chromebooks. I volunteered to help distribute them the other day. We had basically a drive through setup along the edge of the parking lots. Parents (or the older kids) would pull up, tell us what packets or books they needed, and the volunteers passed them through the car window. It was pretty crazy at first with about 200 cars in line, backed up out onto the road. But everyone was very patient and in the end it went somewhat smoothly.I just read that my kids school district had been giving out about 300 lunches a day for families that depend on those meals. And they have also loaned out 2000 chrome books for those who need them for online learning.
I just can’t get there with whole Italy angle ...
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The math just doesn’t support it, even when you take into the fact that Italy is 7-10 days ahead of the US in the curve.
Yes in the number of total cases the Italy v. US charts appear on the same trajectory, however the death rate is very different when comparing day by day. With the US continuing to drop as more people are tested and cases confirmed.
Of the 177 reported deaths in the US, 74 are in Washington State (41.8%), if you agree that Washington State is an outlier, then the death rate here is in line with South Korea so far.
But what about folks that can’t work from home, highly likely will lose their job. These folks are taking chances that they can get sick, but economic hardship with mouths to feed .... their choices ain’t as easy as your.
I would really be interested to see the modeling he’s relying on. CA currently has @ 1k cases. They had @50 new cases yesterday. The numbers are going to jump as we get more test kits in the system, but getting from 1k to 25M is a curious thing.Saw a news report saying CA's governor is estimating 25 million cases...
Just got an email we are going to universal masking precautions... But we don't have any masks
Probably bad gif example, touching of the face
This is the part that is really tough to watch for me. I have been getting at least two calls a day from small businesses that I represent asking about how to handle the layoffs from a legal standpoint. My suggestion has been to reduce everyone's hours or pay uniformly for the next pay period or two as opposed to letting some people go, if possible. Its really heart wrenching to see., and certainly makes me appreciate what I have.
Totally agree. We also have 5.7 times the population of Italy so our number would have to be larger by a corresponding amount to be on the same trajectory as Italy.
Its ridiculous. Normally I would't care and just write it off as a placebo effect, but its actively preventing the people who need them in the healthcare and related fields from being protected. How stupid is that? Its like having a great fire department and giving them a dozen super soakers. Give your masks to the people who need to to, you know, do things like trying to stop the spread of the f#$&@! virus that you are wearing the mask for int he first place?Unless I losing my mind, quite possible I know, hasn’t it already been proven a mask will not help at all?
Just got an email we are going to universal masking precautions... But we don't have any masks
Probably bad gif example, touching of the face
I heard something about an initial report out of China. Male smokers, but I don’t remember the details. Also saw an initial study out of China showing a potential correlation between blood type and indicence rates (A more likley, O less likley)When this is all over I would love to know how many were smokers compared to non-smokers.
I heard something about an initial report out of China. Male smokers, but I don’t remember the details. Also saw an initial study out of China showing a potential correlation between blood type and indicence rates (A more likley, O less likley)
I'm on JB's side, I have no idea. I should probably figure that out.I saw that blood type article too, but there were so many holes in their logic. As a person with Type O negative blood I liked the idea of it, but the study was greatly lacking.
I also then learned that @JB doesn't know his blood type. Is that a common thing? I thought most people knew their blood type.
Unless I losing my mind, quite possible I know, hasn’t it already been proven a mask will not help at all?
Its ridiculous. Normally I would't care and just write it off as a placebo effect, but its actively preventing the people who need them in the healthcare and related fields from being protected. How stupid is that? Its like having a great fire department and giving them a dozen super soakers. Give your masks to the people who need to to, you know, do things like trying to stop the spread of the f#$&@! virus that you are wearing the mask for int he first place?
If there is another form of life somewhere in the universe, this is not our best reflection of the intelligence of humanity.
I also then learned that @JB doesn't know his blood type. Is that a common thing? I thought most people knew their blood type.