2k thread views and 150 comments in 24 hours shows me they are doing something right because it got people talking about them.
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The manufacturer is listed as Southern California Design Company. Among their broad array of clients are Cobra and Indi Golf.
Good point.2k thread views and 150 comments in 24 hours shows me they are doing something right because it got people talking about them.
Here is an interesting thought exercise:
Let’s say instead of a tie or golf shirt for Christmas, the wife and kids get you a fresh new set of Kirkland Signature wedges. Are you happy?
The front page of that website had so many buzzwords on it that I no longer have to drink my coffee this morning. My goodness.The manufacturer is listed as Southern California Design Company. Among their broad array of clients are Cobra and Indi Golf.
2k thread views and 150 comments in 24 hours shows me they are doing something right because it got people talking about them.
Post of the day right here.If the COVID thread taught us anything, it is that comments and views don't always translate to a good thing
I was wondering where that went. But then realized, it's probably for the best.Post of the day right here.
I was wondering where that went. But then realized, it's probably for the best.
I get what You are saying but some on here are not going at it quite the same way. Just like "the bomb" golf balls serve their purpose.Right. Just as I would assume that many of the larger well thought out companies have little concern with Costco selling cheap wedges. You mentioned earlier that you took issue with people "labeling" the Costco wedges as "crappy" (or the like), but did the same thing with the analogy.
I dont think too many people have issue with Costco releasing and selling a product. As golfers that take clubs, fitting, and performance to a higher level (being THPers), they would believe (right or wrong) that golfers would want performance. Just as you would prefer, drivers, not go with "crappy" coverage. Make sense?
I get what You are saying but some on here are not going at it quite the same way. Just like "the bomb" golf balls serve their purpose.
As a "golf site" I would think all would be included not just "As golfers that take clubs, fitting, and performance to a higher level (being THPers)".
So are you saying this site is really for "higher level golfers"?
So are you saying this site is really for "higher level golfers"?
Is there any possibility to get an inside scoop on the wedges?That is actually my friend Rob's company.
I'd be willing to play 18 holes with the Kirkland wedges, just to see. I would not keep them in my bag, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued.
No offense to Costco, but I highly doubt that's possible.What if you hit them better than what's in the bag now?
No offense to Costco, but I highly doubt that's possible.
Here's the rub. The OG Ksig ball isn't a copy of the Prov1. It's a Nassau Quattro (if I remember correctly). Which is a legit brand in Europe. Whether it was old stock or a new run labeled as Ksig I don't know. And on that note, every ball manufacturer has spent years trying to chase the Prov1. Now we're at a point where most have a comparable model.So to be clear, my gripe about the K-Sig wedges really isn’t about price or performance (we know little about both, which is perhaps another gripe in itself). My issue is that the K-Sig seems to be unabashedly utilizing something that I loathe, which is taking someone else’s ingenuity and design, having it copied overseas, and then brining it back to market at a discount. To me, that deters innovation.
Take the OG 4-piece for example. Basically a direct copy of Titleist property. Then the K-Sig putter, which is a straight knockoff of the Ping Anser/SC. Now, that wedge in the picture looks an awful like a Vokey SM7 to me on the backside, with the difference being that they milled the small indentation towards the top instead of leaving it smooth. So now, we are basically 3 for 3 with Costco copying a Titleist product. That should not be encouraged.
Their gallery shows Amp Cells and Indi Stingray wedges. Do you know what level of involvement they had in either?That is actually my friend Rob's company.
I understand totally what you are saying, and they are fair points for sure. But we can't ignore that there was a lawsuit pending between Costco and Acushnet that our very own @Molten gave a good bit of detail about in another thread. Certainly, Titleist feels like they are being copied to some degree.Here's the rub. The OG Ksig ball isn't a copy of the Prov1. It's a Nassau Quattro (if I remember correctly). Which is a legit brand in Europe. Whether it was old stock or a new run labeled as Ksig I don't know. And on that note, every ball manufacturer has spent years trying to chase the Prov1. Now we're at a point where most have a comparable model.
In terms of the putter, almost every putter company has an Anser like model. That's been going on for decades. Costco was very late to that party.
I don't know a lot about Vokey wedges. So I cannot speak to that. Most wedges share some design similarities.
Here's the rub. The OG Ksig ball isn't a copy of the Prov1. It's a Nassau Quattro (if I remember correctly). Which is a legit brand in Europe. Whether it was old stock or a new run labeled as Ksig I don't know. And on that note, every ball manufacturer has spent years trying to chase the Prov1. Now we're at a point where most have a comparable model.
In terms of the putter, almost every putter company has an Anser like model. That's been going on for decades. Costco was very late to that party.
I don't know a lot about Vokey wedges. So I cannot speak to that. Most wedges share some design similarities.
I would have to re-read up on the lawsuit. I thought the main issue was their advertising that the ball was better than leading brands. Don't remember the exact wording. But, maybe that was only part of it. I'm no lawyer, but I do know that companies sue one another all the time.I understand totally what you are saying, and they are fair points for sure. But we can't ignore that there was a lawsuit pending between Costco and Acushnet that our very own @Molten gave a good bit of detail about in another thread. Certainly, Titleist feels like they are being copied to some degree.
Historically, as technology gets older it becomes more accessible and prevalent. Just look at iPhones and TVs and cars and a million other products. What irks me a bit with this is that Costco is effectively bringing sand to the beach with these releases, with the only "improvement" being their unique ability to put "Kirkland Signature" on it and leverage their brand loyalty to move the product, where there are still plenty of last-generation options available from traditional golf channels. Costco's entry into the golf market added literally nothing to golf or its evolution, and perhaps even hindered it, albeit in a very small way, thus far.