Win oneLooks like a low CG monster... Can’t wait to hit one.
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Win oneLooks like a low CG monster... Can’t wait to hit one.
Maybe I misunderstand this. Let's say we have two identical drivers in every way except CG placement. If we hold CG the same distance from face to heel in both but raise the CG higher, wouldn't that create more spin relative to the lower CG placement head?In my opinion, in general speaking that would be correct. Another way to look at it is those with a need for spin reduction the GS53 makes sense. Those that need or want an easier initial launch, the Max makes sense. Weight forward and a bit higher will lead to lower spin, but also a loss in forgiveness through MOI.
Maybe I misunderstand this. Let's say we have two identical drivers in every way except CG placement. If we hold CG the same distance from face to heel in both but raise the CG higher, wouldn't that create more spin relative to the lower CG placement head?
Spin and launch are often interchanged. Higher CG can cause the ball to launch lower and spin more.
Right, I guess I was referring to the general rule of thumb for weight placement... but yeah I get that moving weight can change club delivery, etc. Thanks for clarifying!
I agree, as I like to move weights to optimize everything as well. However, arguably the best driver on the market right now is Mavrik, and it's not littered with weights or slides and what not. As long as it performs, the bells and whistles may not be necessary.Sharp looks and likely high quality. They should though IMO play around with some more adjustable weighting. These days all the top manufacturers have relatively hot faces and loft flexibility to me being able to move weight for draw and fade bias and or > MOI as important. They say you can change face angle but I would rather not go that way. Also no A flex on current site and seniors need that option.
I agree, as I like to move weights to optimize everything as well. However, arguably the best driver on the market right now is Mavrik, and it's not littered with weights or slides and what not. As long as it performs, the bells and whistles may not be necessary.
Aha. That makes a ton of sense in wedges!No problem. In that post you originally quoted, generally I was speaking of forward vs back. Which can bring a reduction. Low vs high, generally speaking does exactly what you posted. If nothing else changes in delivery.
It is why we are seeing that more and more in modern wedges.
Totally disagree hit that club many times and major disappointment and fact cannot tweak for hundreds of dollars make me not even consider it; but adaptability and being able to shots most important to me. Found at least ten yard loss with the highly touted CM with 3 shafts with Trackman on fitting versus Ping, Titleist, Cobra etc. I went ultimately with a fitted 9 weight PXG proto but was very close call with Titleist S3 which son, a 3 hdcp, now bags.I agree, as I like to move weights to optimize everything as well. However, arguably the best driver on the market right now is Mavrik, and it's not littered with weights or slides and what not. As long as it performs, the bells and whistles may not be necessary.
Fair point but for a higher price point (although with a Veterans sale even cheaper) you can have drivers can adjust at least to a lessor degree both ways (I have a PXG on way that is low spin but can move weights to slightly increased spin while > MOI at least to an extent but I may still get one of these as a backup. Great look and I am sure feel. Seriously considering for the holidays and would not of actively considered without THP - thanks!It wouldn't make a ton of sense to having sliding weights in a driver designed specifically for high MOI and extreme stability like this Max is.
While I am for tech and fitting, some drivers it makes sense and others not so much. It's why many companies offer multiple options.
Fair point but for a higher price point (although with a Veterans sale even cheaper) you can have drivers can adjust at least to a lessor degree both ways (I have a PXG on way that is low spin but can move weights to slightly increased spin while > MOI at least to an extent but I may still get one of these as a backup. Great look and I am sure feel. Seriously considering for the holidays and would not of actively considered without THP - thanks!
Totally get it I built clubs for years and played at advanced level including state ams - my point is that I feel personally any driver $400 or more should be fully adjustable as rest pretty cosmetic. Most importantly get fit and get what works for you but at the high end it should come down in my opinion to being able to tweak a club to get maximum performance. I honestly feel some of the industry is moving to providing a one size fits all product at a very high price point. Many are not offering enough shaft offerings at decent price points and some don’t even offer all shaft flexes unless a custom order. That being said this model Hogan if launched under $400 likely works well most players and I may buy one as a travel or backup driver. I am not wedded to any brand and played various Hogan’s and other clubs for years. Great Respect!I understand you love PXG, but these are very different drivers.
A good example of this would be Mizuno's last offering of 3 different drivers. 1 had sliding weights. Not everything is designed to be altered, and while I am for high technology and fitting, it doesn't fit all styles.
Furthermore, that can be accomplished numerous ways through fitting if one decides.
There are drivers where it is a benefit to have maximum adjustability and others where there isn't.
Totally get it I built clubs for years and played at advanced level including state ams - my point is that I feel personally any driver $400 or more should be fully adjustable as rest pretty cosmetic. Most importantly get fit and get what works for you but at the high end it should come down in my opinion to being able to tweak a club to get maximum performance. I honestly feel some of the industry is moving to providing a one size fits all product at a very high price point. Many are not offering enough shaft offerings at decent price points and some don’t even offer all shaft flexes unless a custom order. That being said this model Hogan if launched under $400 likely works well most players and I may buy one as a travel or backup driver. I am not wedded to any brand and played various Hogan’s and other clubs for years. Great Respect!
I just watched that too - it was really good. Also, Ben Hogan has a great intro video on their Instagram page today.I just watched the Ben Hogan Golf instagram live about this driver and they mentioned it also has variable face thickness to help those off-center strikes that I seem to get a lot. That's awesome, and dang what a value at that price.