These look awesome, home gripping made super easy!
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For me it's more like... velcro vs laces.. There's something incredibly comforting in knowing the grip is totally glued.
I dont disagree with your points. But how much of that only changing once per year, or every 2 years, would change if the process was simple, or didnt require you taking your clubs somewhere? I dont think the cost benefit is as crucial, as the ability to easily do it on your own. I'd love to try out different grips, but the old process of changing grips seems too difficult. This would change my mindset.I will say its a very cool and revolutionary idea. I guess where I'm struggling with it is, is there really a benefit to doing this for most of us? I guess is I played/practiced a ton, and went through several sets of grips a year you start to see more of a cost benefit. But I'd guess the average golfer changes grips once a year, and this really doesn't seem like it would save you any money then?
THP'ers just buy new clubs and get new grips all the time before you even need to change them
I had that bunching with one grip, the one I installed on a steel shaft. The other two were installed on graphite shafts though I don't know that shaft material contributed to it or not. Removing it and trying it again made no difference, still slight bunching. The only time it becomes an issue, however, as it is on the underside and low on the grip, is when I choke down. Yes, it does take a lot of turns of the "horn" to finalize installation but I can accept that as a trade off for the sense of security it provides given the total lack of slippage or twisting or need for re-tightening I have experienced so far.
- I ran into issues with bulging or ("bunching" as it's stated in the instructional videos)near the butt of the grip. This could be completely user error (a result of over-twisting), but for whatever reason, this continued to occur in my installations. It wasn't a deal breaker, but it was definitely detectable once installed. I uninstalled and reinstalled several times and ran into the same issue. For this reason, I didn't reference the time it took for installation in this quick review since my time frame was probably an anomaly.
- Lastly, I wouldn't mind fewer turns required for the installation, but that's just personal preference
I dont disagree with your points. But how much of that only changing once per year, or every 2 years, would change if the process was simple, or didnt require you taking your clubs somewhere? I dont think the cost benefit is as crucial, as the ability to easily do it on your own. I'd love to try out different grips, but the old process of changing grips seems too difficult. This would change my mindset.
This seems SUPER promising! Love when we get some new innovative tech in the golf world. These seem to be a major step forward in the grip world, but does GP expect them to have good marketability? I think there is a certain small % of golfers who change their grip regularly (its not even every THP'er), other than that people fall into the very infrequent or the "you can change a grip?" category. Obviously to spend the $$ on R&D GP expects this to provide a return, I'm just interested to see how quickly this becomes main stream.
Its more than people think, but if people didnt have to deal with tools necessary, it would definitely increase.
I know @JDax and @e1iterate can give an estimate in how many grips they did at Dicks when they worked there. Its way more than people think.
you really had to turn it quite a bit and then twist the grip as well. If you are going to do a full set you will likely need some gloves.
This may have been mentioned but what about sizes? Are there options beyond standard? I use jumbo grips and would not want to go back to the standard size grip.
Great recap!!Summary – Concept Helix really works and has the potential to change how grips are bought and used. It behaves just like a grip attached with tape and solvent – until you have to change the grip. Then it’s crazily easier. The process is very simple. Working with tape wraps complicates the process. It has the potential to be a platform for multiple models. Offering shot sensor tracker compatibility in a broader selection of models and a few more diameter options would greatly increase the market potential.
I was fortunate to be among the THPers selected to test this product, and Concept Helix has the potential to be a game changer.
I had a few discussions with the GP tech rep during my evaluation. I took away a few things from them:
- Consider the grips we evaluated to be “proof of concept.”
- So we maysee variations going forward, potentially including
- Ability to attach shot tracking sensors
- More options in grip diameters to minimize tape wraps
- Different styles of grips
- These grips will behave somewhere between standard and midsize
- If you choose to add wraps, use standard masking tape instead of painter’s tape. The latter has a waxy coating that will not work as well.
I have changed grips, using both air and solvent, and it’s not one of my favorite things to do, especially with solvent.
I play standard grips with two wraps of tape, so I tried to do the same on my graphite driver and 4h shafts, and my steel shafted sand wedge. My wedge had the Ping Dylawedge grip, so I attempted to add tape at the bottom to simulate a +4 configuration similar to the Dylawedge.
As others have noted, the hardest part was removing the old grip tape. A combination of hot air, rubbing alcohol, grip solvent, and effort took care of them. I had no issues installing the wedge grip over two layers of tape and more at the bottom. The driver was the most difficult – I saw the “bunching” others observed and it took several attempts to get it on the shaft to the point I was happy with it - and I could do only one wrap on that club. The hybrid install (one wrap) was between the other two in terms of difficulty. The tightening with the horn was not difficult, and the grip feels as secure as any I have ever played with. I have about nine rounds, inside and out, on these grips and I have never felt any hint of slippage. I’m a chemical guy and would have thought there would be a difference between tape and the mechanical approach, but I could detect none. I haven't had to tighten the grips once since installation. They play like any other grips I have used. I don't plan to remove them until they need to be replaced. Of course, I prefer a rubber grip, so these fit my preferences more closely than those of other testers. I noticed no difference in my shot flight with these clubs. Maybe I’m not nearly as sensitive to grip weights and diameters as I thought.
Once installed, removal and re-installation is a piece of cake.
I personally would redesign the horn to make it more of a giant wingnut. That would facilitate tightening and loosening. Also, if you lose the horn . . . .
I would play these, especially at the price point, if they offered sensor compatibility and more model options.
You know, I was wrestling with these questions myself. I think someone who plays a lot of always likes new grips will love this. I also think it’s hugely beneficial for that one club that wears out faster than the rest of the set (hi, driver) and this can be a stand in until you have to do the full set. It’s not ready for a mass takeover of the whole world but it could get there in a short time.I will say its a very cool and revolutionary idea. I guess where I'm struggling with it is, is there really a benefit to doing this for most of us? I guess is I played/practiced a ton, and went through several sets of grips a year you start to see more of a cost benefit. But I'd guess the average golfer changes grips once a year, and this really doesn't seem like it would save you any money then?
THP'ers just buy new clubs and get new grips all the time before you even need to change them
I had no issues installing the wedge grip over two layers of tape and more at the bottom.
This exactly, I put it on my 50* because I use it so much and want to see the durability. So far so good after probably 15 rounds or so.You know, I was wrestling with these questions myself. I think someone who plays a lot of always likes new grips will love this. I also think it’s hugely beneficial for that one club that wears out faster than the rest of the set (hi, driver) and this can be a stand in until you have to do the full set. It’s not ready for a mass takeover of the whole world but it could get there in a short time.
For me it's more like... velcro vs laces.. There's something incredibly comforting in knowing the grip is totally glued.
You know, I was wrestling with these questions myself. I think someone who plays a lot of always likes new grips will love this. I also think it’s hugely beneficial for that one club that wears out faster than the rest of the set (hi, driver) and this can be a stand in until you have to do the full set. It’s not ready for a mass takeover of the whole world but it could get there in a short time.
Oh snap - that could be perfect. Never even thought of thatAnother area that is overlooked is the person that likes different grips based on weather, but doesnt want to change every 6 months.
If you promise not to tell, I did one install where I cleaned everything off and one install where I left most of the old tape. Both are holding strong so far but I’m still nervous about the one with the tapeThat's very interesting. I may go back and try that.
Yeah, no idea what the timeline on expansion is and I’ll likely be forced to use the old method for a while but once I can make the switch without any compromise, I will.I'm of the old school camp that will continue to do it the old fashioned way ... grip tape, solvent & my bench.
Nice idea but I'm not sure there will be enough of a selection in grips for the foreseeable future.
You know, I was wrestling with these questions myself. I think someone who plays a lot of always likes new grips will love this. I also think it’s hugely beneficial for that one club that wears out faster than the rest of the set (hi, driver) and this can be a stand in until you have to do the full set. It’s not ready for a mass takeover of the whole world but it could get there in a short time.