I thought the whole point was that the grade of the hill lent itself to an unwilling increase in speed.Then I doubt that hitting a curb would have caused a flip at low speed.
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I thought the whole point was that the grade of the hill lent itself to an unwilling increase in speed.Then I doubt that hitting a curb would have caused a flip at low speed.
i really don't see him playing competitive golf ever again. he is already 45 and has had numerous injuries and surgeries. if he was in any other major sport we would label him as injury prone. sure he will play in some rounds but highly doubt he will ever really compete again.
thank god he didn't kill anyone
Well if he saw the curb and was trying to correct it he hit it with it loaded on the left side in an SUV so honestly you can flop it easily going the speed limit. Adding in the steepness of the hill he could have started at the top at the speed limit and gained a bunch even with his foot off the gas.Then I doubt that hitting a curb would have caused a flip at low speed.
Well if he saw the curb and was trying to correct it he hit it with it loaded on the left side in an SUV so honestly you can flop it easily going the speed limit. Adding in the steepness of the hill he could have started at the top at the speed limit and gained a bunch even with his foot off the gas.
Apparently Tiger has zero recollection of the accident
I am a sportsmedicine trained doctor and too early to tell. Alex Smith is playing QB after 18 surgeries and others have come back and Woods is an athlete with very strong will and access to the best of care. He was treated at a top tier trauma center. Don’t bet against him IMO.
If I'm Steinberg and see him like he was on the broadcast on Sunday I am assigning him a driver for the rest of the LA stint. I don't think he was on anything either but just based on how tired he looked that's not a good state to drive a car in, especially with hilly terrain and streets he doesn't daily drive on. The man looked like he needed a week of non-stop sleep. It's just difficult to not connect the accident with his look on Sunday. For him I almost hope this takes him out of competitive golf, he can concentrate on the rest of his life after that and not be in this insane pressure cooker.
thank god he didn't kill anyone
Of course he doesn't.Apparently Tiger has zero recollection of the accident
What the writer said had crossed my mind, but it's probably a very unpopular thought.
Reading the article it is obvious the writer dislikes or possibly even hates Tiger. He goes so far as to reference Tigers father getting a contract while Tiger was an amateur like it has something to do with this accident. Notably absent from this journalists article is any reference to this stretch of road , its condition and as some have posted a spot at least to those familiar with it knew it to be hazardous and potentially dangerous. This journalist also states as if its a fact that “ leaving no skid marks to indicate that he applied his breaks, then rolled up an embankment” falsely claiming as fact that he never applied or tried to apply his breaks. I doubt this journalist is a certified accident reconstruction expert but i would think at the very least he would have consulted one before claiming as fact things he knows nothing about. The simple fact he claims Tiger without applying his brakes “ rolled up an embankment” when everything i have seen talks about the severity of the downhill slope of the road including the embankment has a significant drop think i read somewhere up to 300 feet ( to the point those truck ramps you see on hilly roads were installed ) shows he is clueless .I dont know all the facts but there is enough present to give rise to a variety of explanations including his speed coupled with his unfamiliarity with the road which in and by itself could cause vehicle to increase speed as it went downhill coupled with a one or two second distraction which could have come in any form leading to this accident. How many can honestly say they have never exceeded the posted speed limit, never dropped something and reached for it ,never been distracted by a phone or something. A second or two distraction could lead to an accident. How many have never caught themselves swerving or not seeing something you should have seen until the last second and then had a near miss. None of that would make someone a bad person because these things do happen. I have no problem with people discussing and having theories. I have no problem with anyone posting thoughts and theories here. I do have a problem with a “journalist” in a national worldwide read publication writing things like this person did, stating not as possibilities but as fact things they were wrong about , know nothing about and obviously did absolutely nothing to get a full picture of the facts. I dont know exactly what happened that day or what the cause or multiple causes or contributing factors were and hopefully we will ger a clearer picture from the experts , the contents of the vehicles computer that stores information and a full and complete accident reconstruction As im sure you can tell i think what that “ journalist” did was unfair and it bothers me.An interesting article.
Reading the article it is obvious the writer dislikes or possibly even hates Tiger. He goes so far as to reference Tigers father getting a contract while Tiger was an amateur like it has something to do with this accident. Notably absent from this journalists article is any reference to this stretch of road , its condition and as some have posted a spot at least to those familiar with it knew it to be hazardous and potentially dangerous. This journalist also states as if its a fact that “ leaving no skid marks to indicate that he applied his breaks, then rolled up an embankment” falsely claiming as fact that he never applied or tried to apply his breaks. I doubt this journalist is a certified accident reconstruction expert but i would think at the very least he would have consulted one before claiming as fact things he knows nothing about. The simple fact he claims Tiger without applying his brakes “ rolled up an embankment” when everything i have seen talks about the severity of the downhill slope of the road including the embankment has a significant drop think i read somewhere up to 300 feet ( to the point those truck ramps you see on hilly roads were installed ) shows he is clueless .I dont know all the facts but there is enough present to give rise to a variety of explanations including his speed coupled with his unfamiliarity with the road which in and by itself could cause vehicle to increase speed as it went downhill coupled with a one or two second distraction which could have come in any form leading to this accident. How many can honestly say they have never exceeded the posted speed limit, never dropped something and reached for it ,never been distracted by a phone or something. A second or two distraction could lead to an accident. How many have never caught themselves swerving or not seeing something you should have seen until the last second and then had a near miss. None of that would make someone a bad person because these things do happen. I have no problem with people discussing and having theories. I have no problem with anyone posting thoughts and theories here. I do have a problem with a “journalist” in a national worldwide read publication writing things like this person did, stating not as possibilities but as fact things they were wrong about , know nothing about and obviously did absolutely nothing to get a full picture of the facts. I dont know exactly what happened that day or what the cause or multiple causes or contributing factors were and hopefully we will ger a clearer picture from the experts , the contents of the vehicles computer that stores information and a full and complete accident reconstruction As im sure you can tell i think what that “ journalist” did was unfair and it bothers me.
We will never know what really happened or if Tiger was impaired. He might just be a crappy driver like my buddies wife who had 14 accidents in 9 years.
Still, nobody should be surprised that the rich, connected, and famous(whether they are actors, athletes, business icons, politicians, or just wealthy) are often treated differently and often get cut a lot more slack than the rest of us. This is not something recent and, in fact, has been going on since the beginning of humanity. Life is not fair.
If he was impaired I hope he gets help or a least starts driving a Tesla with self-driving mode engaged. I'd be afraid to be his passenger with his track record.![]()
I read the NY Post article last night. I'm not a Tiger fan in the least (to put it mildly), and even I thought that article was an over-the-top hit piece by a journalistic hack with an axe to grind.Reading the article it is obvious the writer dislikes or possibly even hates Tiger. He goes so far as to reference Tigers father getting a contract while Tiger was an amateur like it has something to do with this accident. Notably absent from this journalists article is any reference to this stretch of road , its condition and as some have posted a spot at least to those familiar with it knew it to be hazardous and potentially dangerous. This journalist also states as if its a fact that “ leaving no skid marks to indicate that he applied his breaks, then rolled up an embankment” falsely claiming as fact that he never applied or tried to apply his breaks. I doubt this journalist is a certified accident reconstruction expert but i would think at the very least he would have consulted one before claiming as fact things he knows nothing about. The simple fact he claims Tiger without applying his brakes “ rolled up an embankment” when everything i have seen talks about the severity of the downhill slope of the road including the embankment has a significant drop think i read somewhere up to 300 feet ( to the point those truck ramps you see on hilly roads were installed ) shows he is clueless .I dont know all the facts but there is enough present to give rise to a variety of explanations including his speed coupled with his unfamiliarity with the road which in and by itself could cause vehicle to increase speed as it went downhill coupled with a one or two second distraction which could have come in any form leading to this accident. How many can honestly say they have never exceeded the posted speed limit, never dropped something and reached for it ,never been distracted by a phone or something. A second or two distraction could lead to an accident. How many have never caught themselves swerving or not seeing something you should have seen until the last second and then had a near miss. None of that would make someone a bad person because these things do happen. I have no problem with people discussing and having theories. I have no problem with anyone posting thoughts and theories here. I do have a problem with a “journalist” in a national worldwide read publication writing things like this person did, stating not as possibilities but as fact things they were wrong about , know nothing about and obviously did absolutely nothing to get a full picture of the facts. I dont know exactly what happened that day or what the cause or multiple causes or contributing factors were and hopefully we will ger a clearer picture from the experts , the contents of the vehicles computer that stores information and a full and complete accident reconstruction As im sure you can tell i think what that “ journalist” did was unfair and it bothers me.
I read an article that says he was .02 on the breathalyzer. In NY the limit which used to be .10 is now . 08. If the article was correct .02 is nothing. When it was .10 i used to be able to get plea deals to traffic infractions for people who blew .09 or lower. Dont know the particulars of the case and when i heard it was dismissed i thought that sounded strange when i read the breathalyzer was.02 i understood ( if the article was accurate) . If the breathalyzer was also administered before charges were filed ( which typically is the case) unless there is a refusal not sure why he was originally charged with driving while intoxicated. And he apparently plead guilty to a minor violation which im guessing is the standard offer in cases like his.Like Bruce Springsteen getting out of his DUI here. He refused the breathalyzer, which in NJ is an automatic admission of guilt .. pretty sure he got the charges dropped all together
He refused and they drew blood. Sounds like an over zealous officer plus an entitled celebrity led to a lot of wasted time and money.I read an article that says he was .02 on the breathalyzer. In NY the limit which used to be .10 is now . 08. If the article was correct .02 is nothing. When it was .10 i used to be able to get plea deals to traffic infractions for people who blew .09 or lower. Dont know the particulars of the case and when i heard it was dismissed i thought that sounded strange when i read the breathalyzer was.02 i understood ( if the article was accurate) . If the breathalyzer was also administered before charges were filed ( which typically is the case) unless there is a refusal not sure why he was originally charged with driving while intoxicated. And he apparently plead guilty to a minor violation which im guessing is the standard offer in cases like his.
Totally agree just a very strange situation. I havent done a DWI in years ( dont do criminal anymore) but im not surprised that people get convicted at .08 or less because i know municipalities are much tougher on these now. And if he did refuse the breath test i understand why the original charges were filed. Lol im sure there are some current or former law enforcement officers here who will say what i have heard from many officers over the years “ everyone says they only had two or a couple drinks”Yeah I honestly didn't read the specifics on it (before now), but it also depends on when they drew the blood compared to his time of driving .. if it was .02 I agree thats nothing and well below the .08 limit, but supposedly he took 2 shots just before getting on his motorcycle..
either way, at my various jobs I have had people who were convicted with less than .08 (but never as low as .02), but there could have been other circumstances like an accident involved
In California, there were two DUI sections - 23152(a)CVC prohibits driving while under the influence, 23152(b) VC prohibits driving with a BAC of 0.08% or greater. If impairment was proven, you could get a filing on the (a) section even when the BAC was below .08%.Totally agree just a very strange situation. I havent done a DWI in years ( dont do criminal anymore) but im not surprised that people get convicted at .08 or less because i know municipalities are much tougher on these now. And if he did refuse the breath test i understand why the original charges were filed. Lol im sure there are some current or former law enforcement officers here who will say what i have heard from many officers over the years “ everyone says they only had two or a couple drinks”