I could still be solid with my Memphis, but I’m overwhelmingly better with triple track.
Same here, man.
I need a yellow CSX TT. I’d buy 10 dozen
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I could still be solid with my Memphis, but I’m overwhelmingly better with triple track.
Price point seems to be what is holding back the Chrome Soft IMO. Multiple buddies enjoy the ball, but they will buy ProV1 for the same price (or less with Titleist's 4 for 3) every time.
I've found the CSx to perform so well for me. The CS is interesting because on the monitor it doesn't win any single category. Its not the fastest or the highest or the spinniest with an iron - but it always plays well on the course for me.
csxtt20 is the goat. i've never played anything better. i hit some absolutely brilliant greenside bunker shots today that danced and gave me the opportunity for some great up-and-downs. and the feel off the putter is perfectly responsive, giving me distance control that is better than my jacked up stroke deserves. off the driver it's long. off the irons it's long and spins beautifully into greens. off the wedges you can make the ball do whatever you want. i've heard others say they're seeing durability issues, and i'll admit i did as well, but the last couple dozen i've purchased have held up really well, so maybe there are some inconsistencies in production batches? or maybe i just caught some bunkers with rocks in them that scuffed the ball and didn't realize it. regardless, i'm thrilled with this ball and will be reloading this week.
Price point seems to be what is holding back the Chrome Soft IMO. Multiple buddies enjoy the ball, but they will buy ProV1 for the same price (or less with Titleist's 4 for 3) every time.
I've found the CSx to perform so well for me. The CS is interesting because on the monitor it doesn't win any single category. Its not the fastest or the highest or the spinniest with an iron - but it always plays well on the course for me.
Should there really be inconsistencies in production batches after $50 mil in facility upgrades to eliminate inconsistencies though? I feel like that hopeful statement is equally troubling if true or not true.csxtt20 is the goat. i've never played anything better. i hit some absolutely brilliant greenside bunker shots today that danced and gave me the opportunity for some great up-and-downs. and the feel off the putter is perfectly responsive, giving me distance control that is better than my jacked up stroke deserves. off the driver it's long. off the irons it's long and spins beautifully into greens. off the wedges you can make the ball do whatever you want. i've heard others say they're seeing durability issues, and i'll admit i did as well, but the last couple dozen i've purchased have held up really well, so maybe there are some inconsistencies in production batches? or maybe i just caught some bunkers with rocks in them that scuffed the ball and didn't realize it. regardless, i'm thrilled with this ball and will be reloading this week.
Should there really be inconsistencies in production batches after $50 mil in facility upgrades to eliminate inconsistencies though? I feel like that hopeful statement is equally troubling if true or not true.
While I applaud your willingness to understand (seriously, how nice are you?! Lol), I don't think a manufacturer who had the ball issues they did really gets a hall pass year. I'd argue that they should, if anything, hold themselves to an even higher standard than expected by consumers.i think 2020 is a hall pass year. staffing issues. materials issues. logistics issues. it’s a year where if it can go wrong, nobody should be surprised if it does go wrong. i have no idea if the issue is batch related, or just me making a crap swing or a piece of rock caused the scuffs. it’s not like i’m seeing scuffs out of the middle of the fairway or off a tee. the worst i have seen are out of bunkers. and rocks are very common where i live, even on nicer courses. but yesterday i was in a lot of bunkers, and played the same ball almost the whole round with no issues. who knows?!
While I applaud your willingness to understand (seriously, how nice are you?! Lol), I don't think a manufacturer who had the ball issues they did really gets a hall pass year. I'd argue that they should, if anything, hold themselves to an even higher standard than expected by consumers.
That's all IF there was some kind of batch inconsistency. All of mine (4 different sources and purchase dates) were pretty crap on durability.
Should there really be inconsistencies in production batches after $50 mil in facility upgrades to eliminate inconsistencies though? I feel like that hopeful statement is equally troubling if true or not true.
I say this as a huge fan of the TXG guys. Honestly, I love their stuff and I'm an avid watcher and subscriber. They've kind of hilariously proven this last year though that they can't fit Matty for **** 'in studio' for on course performance. They spent all last offseason doing ball tests and deciding what was best for him and 3 ROUNDS into the season he was telling Ian during a live chat, adamantly, that they needed to do a ball fit. lol That he was seeing too much spin and was coming up short, etc, etc, etc. It really showed the problem with indoor, closed settings ball fits when guys that good can't put one of themselves in the right ball for the course. There was a whole thing about it in the comments, and it's the most grief I've ever seen them take.The boys at TXG reviewed the CS and CSX recently and the CSX performed very well for a high swing player like Matty!
I have seen similar results on the course and on the launch monitor.
Its probably best for another thread but I do remember that. They really put themselves out there with what they're doing.I say this as a huge fan of the TXG guys. Honestly, I love their stuff and I'm an avid watcher and subscriber. They've kind of hilariously proven this last year though that they can't fit Matty for **** 'in studio' for on course performance. They spent all last offseason doing ball tests and deciding what was best for him and 3 ROUNDS into the season he was telling Ian during a live chat, adamantly, that they needed to do a ball fit. lol That he was seeing too much spin and was coming up short, etc, etc, etc. It really showed the problem with indoor, closed settings ball fits when guys that good can't put one of themselves in the right ball for the course. There was a whole thing about it in the comments, and it's the most grief I've ever seen them take.
I do like some things about the CSX, personally, and don't doubt that it fits you well. I don't think it deserves anywhere near the loyalty it receives though either. People want to like it, even when it's a bad fit for them, in the same weird way the always have from my perspective. I'll never understand it, especially at the price.
I say this as a huge fan of the TXG guys. Honestly, I love their stuff and I'm an avid watcher and subscriber. They've kind of hilariously proven this last year though that they can't fit Matty for **** 'in studio' for on course performance. They spent all last offseason doing ball tests and deciding what was best for him and 3 ROUNDS into the season he was telling Ian during a live chat, adamantly, that they needed to do a ball fit. lol That he was seeing too much spin and was coming up short, etc, etc, etc. It really showed the problem with indoor, closed settings ball fits when guys that good can't put one of themselves in the right ball for the course. There was a whole thing about it in the comments, and it's the most grief I've ever seen them take.
I do like some things about the CSX, personally, and don't doubt that it fits you well. I don't think it deserves anywhere near the loyalty it receives though either. People want to like it, even when it's a bad fit for them, in the same weird way the always have from my perspective. I'll never understand it, especially at the price.
I say this as a huge fan of the TXG guys. Honestly, I love their stuff and I'm an avid watcher and subscriber. They've kind of hilariously proven this last year though that they can't fit Matty for **** 'in studio' for on course performance. They spent all last offseason doing ball tests and deciding what was best for him and 3 ROUNDS into the season he was telling Ian during a live chat, adamantly, that they needed to do a ball fit. lol That he was seeing too much spin and was coming up short, etc, etc, etc. It really showed the problem with indoor, closed settings ball fits when guys that good can't put one of themselves in the right ball for the course. There was a whole thing about it in the comments, and it's the most grief I've ever seen them take.
I do like some things about the CSX, personally, and don't doubt that it fits you well. I don't think it deserves anywhere near the loyalty it receives though either. People want to like it, even when it's a bad fit for them, in the same weird way the always have from my perspective. I'll never understand it, especially at the price.
It has been a great ball for me. I can definitely say that it is every bit as good as ProV1x if not better for me. I played the regular CS in the early months of the season. The CSX definitely gave me more stopping power on irons and wedges. And, it's longer off the driver. Only one complaint about the ball. I cannot find it locally. The most I had ever seen in stock in one location is 2 dozen. Never found the Triple Track version. I would go in looking for a dozen balls and walk out with Z Star XV's because the CSX was nowhere to be found. I meant to order online a few times. But, I never thought of it until I was low on balls. Then, I couldn't wait for shipping so I would gamble and hope I could find them. Even the regular Chrome Soft didn't seem to be well stocked.i agree with @ArmyGolf this is probably better for a different thread, but both matt and ian have said matt is changing his game to be less about power and more about control. that could definitely mean a need for new equipment.
as to the ball, the txg guys made some pretty bold claims about just how good the 2020 csx is. great spin into the greens. fast off irons but with elevated spin. fast and consistent off driver but with perfect spin to hit the correct window and stay there. i know our grandaddy team has all seen extremely impressive performance out of the 2020 csx. it's absolutely the best ball i have ever played.