2022 Callaway Rogue ST Driver Lineup

[Muchmore]

18 more holes tonight coming up on sim so 14 more chances to use the Rogue ST Max! I've really never been so excited to hit driver. Once I get all my clubs in, I'll be doing a lot of number and data posts, but until then, it's me fawning over the accuracy and forgiveness of the club

 

[Tenputt]

Has anybody hit both the new Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS and the Epic Speed Triple Diamond LS? If so, how would you compare the two heads?

 

[rogt]

Has anybody hit both the new Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS and the Epic Speed Triple Diamond LS? If so, how would you compare the two heads?

I know @dacatalyst41 has both.

 

[dacatalyst41]

I know @dacatalyst41 has both.

The Rogue is a slightly different shape and smaller at 450cc. It’s not much of a difference but you notice it side by side. In terms of forgiveness and performance on mishits, I’d say the the Rogue TD edges out the Speed TD, but that’s also on a narrower face in terms of width. I don’t think there are any significant distance gains but there are no concessions either in terms of performance and the lateral forgiveness was worth the jump for me. @Tenputt Any other questions, ask away.

 

[Tevenor]

Has anybody hit both the new Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS and the Epic Speed Triple Diamond LS? If so, how would you compare the two heads?

I don't have the epic Speed triple diamond unfortunately. I moved from the Epic Max LS

 

[rogt]

I don't have the epic Speed triple diamond unfortunately. I moved from the Epic Max LS

What did you see different? Had both Epic Speed and Max LS. Decided to go max LS rogue, because I think the triple diamond would be too much stick. What did you see in comparison?

 

[xThor]

Did some side by side testing today. Had 2 goals:

1- try Rogue ST LS versus Max LS
2- get my attack angle up


Triple Diamond LS






Max LS






I need to work on club path, but overall very pleased with both driver heads. The Max LS was a bit less demanding than the TDLS. Love this driver.

 

[JW Smoove]

10.5
This has a Kinetixx Launch shaft. I’m going to be testing a few out including my LIN•Q

also will test every head again, but so far both in the studio and on the course I’m getting the most consistency out of this head based on every driver released so far.

Have you been able to compare it to the new Mizuno offerings, i know they just came out today, Bud maybe you early access?

if so what were your takeaways from each?

Thanks!

 

[MattyD-MPLS]

Doesn't the green also flatten the lie?

I believe so.

 

[Tenputt]

Did some side by side testing today. Had 2 goals:

1- try Rogue ST LS versus Max LS
2- get my attack angle up


Triple Diamond LS

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Max LS

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I need to work on club path, but overall very pleased with both driver heads. The Max LS was a bit less demanding than the TDLS. Love this driver.

No reason for you to switch.

 

[Lions81]

Did some side by side testing today. Had 2 goals:

1- try Rogue ST LS versus Max LS
2- get my attack angle up


Triple Diamond LS

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Max LS

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I need to work on club path, but overall very pleased with both driver heads. The Max LS was a bit less demanding than the TDLS. Love this driver.

Nice job getting your AoA up.

 

[mikeg_74]

Did some side by side testing today. Had 2 goals:

1- try Rogue ST LS versus Max LS
2- get my attack angle up


Triple Diamond LS

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Max LS

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I need to work on club path, but overall very pleased with both driver heads. The Max LS was a bit less demanding than the TDLS. Love this driver.

What is the degree and cog settings on the Max LS?

 

[xThor]

What is the degree and cog settings on the Max LS?

9* head set to -1/N

 

[JB]

Have you been able to compare it to the new Mizuno offerings, i know they just came out today, Bud maybe you early access?

if so what were your takeaways from each?

Thanks!

Havent hit the Mizuno drivers.

 

[GraniteRoost]

Did some side by side testing today. Had 2 goals:

1- try Rogue ST LS versus Max LS
2- get my attack angle up


Triple Diamond LS

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Max LS

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I need to work on club path, but overall very pleased with both driver heads. The Max LS was a bit less demanding than the TDLS. Love this driver.

Man, this is awesome. This is exactly the pair that I want to hit. Your attack angle is plenty up, nice work! And, thanks!

 

[mikeg_74]

9* head set to -1/N

im not a master club fitter but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once, did you try the 10.5* head? Curious if maybe an uptick in spin from the 10.5* head would get the spin more efficient and help raise the carry yards.

 

[xThor]

im not a master club fitter but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once, did you try the 10.5* head? Curious if maybe an uptick in spin from the 10.5* head would get the spin more efficient and help raise the carry yards.

i have access to other heads, and can tryout next Friday. I came from an Epic Max at 10.5, getting fit at the ECPC was told I needed to be at the opposite end of the spectrum from that

 

[Canadan]

Did I tell you guys I played the Rogue ST yesterday?

Because I did.

 

[mikeg_74]

i have access to other heads, and can tryout next Friday. I came from an Epic Max at 10.5, getting fit at the ECPC was told I needed to be at the opposite end of the spectrum from that

Epic Max to Rogue Ls is about as opposite as it gets. I’m guessing it was to bring down spin from the negative AoA. I want to try the 10.5 ( usually a 9*) in the LS and see if I can optimize spin bc the ball speeds I’m seeing are intriguing

 

[Tevenor]

Did I tell you guys I played the Rogue ST yesterday?

Because I did.

Annnnnnnd..........



Which model?

 

[Canadan]

Annnnnnnd..........



Which model?

I think I hit the LS. Can‘t remember hahaha

All I know is, aside from the trash can factory of mediocrity that is my current swing, I hit some great ones. and it sounds excellent.

 

[Tenputt]

Did I tell you guys I played the Rogue ST yesterday?

Because I did.

And?

 

[MH]

The Rogue is a slightly different shape and smaller at 450cc. It’s not much of a difference but you notice it side by side. In terms of forgiveness and performance on mishits, I’d say the the Rogue TD edges out the Speed TD, but that’s also on a narrower face in terms of width. I don’t think there are any significant distance gains but there are no concessions either in terms of performance and the lateral forgiveness was worth the jump for me. @Tenputt Any other questions, ask away.

The epic speed is also 450cc

 

[dacatalyst41]

The epic speed is also 450cc

That’s right..

 

[Muchmore]

Got back from league tonight and I finally found a weakness to my driver. The crown/super high toe. Ball just doesn't come out of there hot enough

But for real, I hit one there and it scared the hell out of me. Luckily the driver is all good! Another crazy night of accuracy with this thing. I was living slightly high and slightly toe side tonight...didn't matter. Same distance, same fantastic dispersion. This line is nuts.

Now for some actual criticism. There was a reason I was fit in to the LS and that was to erase the right side of the course for me. There is some draw tendency with the Max head. The website says "Semi Draw" and I agree with that. At my N/S setting, the right side of the course is still in play. So much so tonight that I don't think I hit more than two or three baby fades (which is the shape I play for) out of about 50 swings. It doesn't hurt me on a simulator, but outside it could put me in to trouble if I'm expecting a slight fade shape. The LS sits more neutral and allows me to hit a fade when I want to.

In California with the Max, my normal fade was prevalent which worked wonders for me. But if I can't trust that to happen every time, that's when I may line up wrong and hit a slight pull when all I want to do is avoid the right side. I do hope I can try out the LS as some point and see what my shape would look like and hopefully can put my fitted specs against what I'm currently using and see if I can see a difference.

Still plenty of confidence right now though and nothing that would worry me yet. Just something I noticed tonight since my swing wasn't as dialed as it was last week.