He’s not slow, probably pushes 105 with driver in good days. It’s the strike consistency for him.I could see that being pretty helpful for lower speed/consistency guys, especially since Cobra built OL off the X platform this time around.
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He’s not slow, probably pushes 105 with driver in good days. It’s the strike consistency for him.I could see that being pretty helpful for lower speed/consistency guys, especially since Cobra built OL off the X platform this time around.
I can see that too. Pretty cool.He’s not slow, probably pushes 105 with driver in good days. It’s the strike consistency for him.
I gave OL RadSpeed a month or so look in 2023. I maybe 15-20 yards of carry difference from 5-7 and very low shot heights. 8-PW was close to my VL distances and heights.I would never do this most likely, but has anybody ever done a partial OL set in the 4/5/6 irons?
Interesting.I gave OL RadSpeed a month or so look in 2023. I maybe 15-20 yards of carry difference from 5-7 and very low shot heights. 8-PW was close to my VL distances and heights.
I’m not sure exactly how to unpack that. My iron play has improved from continued lessons and just general play. But I think it was good enough when I had the OL Aerojets, I just wasn’t as consistent with my swing then. The original F9 set I played absolutely helped with the long irons (and was the first set I consistently played a 5 iron). So since then my swing really improved.This question is borderline unfair, but how much of the success is in the irons and how much is in the work you’ve been putting in, if you had to assign credit.
I did it and committed to it. Would have still be playing them if the opportunity would not have fallen in my lap for a set of KING Tours. I still have them and hit them from time to time.Every time details for this event comes around the OL talk is like clockwork, then come order time everyone backs out. You can set your watch by it.
King tech left. X right.. hard to say because of the angles and a smidge of glare.View attachment 9304823
Short irons are going to surprise some people, really. Those at the PWs. I dare you to guess which is which.
I was 100% going with the OL until I had my fitting. They performed worse than the VL set so there wasn’t any reason to go through with it. I’m glad they had them at the fitting. If not it would’ve been a miserable summerEvery time details for this event comes around the OL talk is like clockwork, then come order time everyone backs out. You can set your watch by it.
What do you think caused the variance? Swing speed?I was 100% going with the OL until I had my fitting. They performed worse than the VL set so there wasn’t any reason to go through with it. I’m glad they had them at the fitting. If not it would’ve been a miserable summer
Kind of, yeahI would never do this most likely, but has anybody ever done a partial OL set in the 4/5/6 irons?
The 5 & 6 irons just weren’t consistent. Distance was good but I was missing left and right with them, just couldn’t get them dialed in to one specific miss/ball flight. The 9,P, & G all went roughly the same distance and they were shorter than they should’ve been. I don’t full swing wedges because I have a hard time releasing the clubhead for some reason and basically hit flop shots with them. That was what I was doing except it extended to the 9i.What do you think caused the variance? Swing speed?
I pulled the trigger on OL because I am sold on the concept after playing them for the last year. I will say I am SOO happy this time around they didn't change the color scheme on the iron like they did the darkspeeds. Just changed the word Tungsten to One Length.Every time details for this event comes around the OL talk is like clockwork, then come order time everyone backs out. You can set your watch by it.
Thats great, are you new to the game or a seasoned vet? Higher hdcp or lower?I pulled the trigger on OL because I am sold on the concept after playing them for the last year. I will say I am SOO happy this time around they didn't change the color scheme on the iron like they did the darkspeeds. Just changed the word Tungsten to One Length.
Play off a 16 right now. Started the season around 21. Newer to the game(started last year).Thats great, are you new to the game or a seasoned vet? Higher hdcp or lower?
Makes sense. I believe you are the type of player who could benefit from OLPlay off a 16 right now. Started the season around 21. Newer to the game(started last year).
The OL made sense to me because I had to learn fewer swings, basically.
That makes sense. At the 2023 Morgan Cup we spoke with Jose regarding the need to deliver the club with a reasonable amount of speed to see the intended results with the longer irons. I wonder if hybrids would have been a better solution for you in that regard.The 5 & 6 irons just weren’t consistent. Distance was good but I was missing left and right with them, just couldn’t get them dialed in to one specific miss/ball flight. The 9,P, & G all went roughly the same distance and they were shorter than they should’ve been. I don’t full swing wedges because I have a hard time releasing the clubhead for some reason and basically hit flop shots with them. That was what I was doing except it extended to the 9i.
I liked the concept and I’m sure they work great for some golfers, I’m not one of them though
Play off a 16 right now. Started the season around 21. Newer to the game(started last year).
The OL made sense to me because I had to learn fewer swings, basically.
100%. When i was in a similar scenario in 2019. I saw a huge jump in scoring when I switched to the OL. it was my first ever round sub-90, after struggling to break 100.Makes sense. I believe you are the type of player who could benefit from OL
very nice! And I agree with you on the color scheme.I pulled the trigger on OL because I am sold on the concept after playing them for the last year. I will say I am SOO happy this time around they didn't change the color scheme on the iron like they did the darkspeeds. Just changed the word Tungsten to One Length.
Possibly. I’m not a long hitter, but I thought I had enough speed for the longer/mid irons. I wasn’t having an issue elevating them, it was more a directional problem.That makes sense. At the 2023 Morgan Cup we spoke with Jose regarding the need to deliver the club with a reasonable amount of speed to see the intended results with the longer irons. I wonder if hybrids would have been a better solution for you in that regard.
With the scoring irons, I get what you are saying exactly. Even in the best of circumstances, you really have to trust that a solid swing of an untraditional length PW, etc. will have the intended results. That's where I struggled a bit, finding myself chocking down on the club a bit, which added some inconsistency for me.
ayy, exactly the same.100%. When i was in a similar scenario in 2019. I saw a huge jump in scoring when I switched to the OL. it was my first ever round sub-90, after struggling to break 100.
That is awesome!ayy, exactly the same.
In 2023 I broke 100 3 times total.
In 2024, I have not been over 100 this season and had a low round of 84!
I would never do this most likely, but has anybody ever done a partial OL set in the 4/5/6 irons?
@Hawk adding some meat on this since I have a couple minutes now - like I said I've played around with this type of setup. I do feel I hit OL 4-6 irons a little more consistently, but after about 6i I see some height and gapping issues, so I end up having to manufacture things a bit which kind of cancels out some of the consistency. I think if your expectation is to hit shots with the OL 4i- 6i clubs that have 10-12 yards of carry cap and land relatively soft, you need above average speed and/or natural height. There might be some players that aren't necessarily hitting or holding greens with long irons and hybrids where going OL there would be a lesser of two evils. For that kind of player it would probably make more sense to go 6i, 4i or 6i, OL 4h rather than go 6i, 5i, 4i. If you're someone who is just desperate to keep things in play in that sort of long iron distance, then I think there would be merit for folks to have a 13 club bag with more standard setup and gapping, then have an OL 4ish club to just slap it around and keep it in play from certain spots. But for that specific purpose, a OL utility iron or hybrid might suit better that purpose than the KTx head specifically.Kind of, yeah
This is great information. In the end, it’s not a scenario I see myself in, but that doesn’t keep me from being curious about it.@Hawk adding some meat on this since I have a couple minutes now - like I said I've played around with this type of setup. I do feel I hit OL 4-6 irons a little more consistently, but after about 6i I see some height and gapping issues, so I end up having to manufacture things a bit which kind of cancels out some of the consistency. I think if your expectation is to hit shots with the OL 4i- 6i clubs that have 10-12 yards of carry cap and land relatively soft, you need above average speed and/or natural height. There might be some players that aren't necessarily hitting or holding greens with long irons and hybrids where going OL there would be a lesser of two evils. For that kind of player it would probably make more sense to go 6i, 4i or 6i, OL 4h rather than go 6i, 5i, 4i. If you're someone who is just desperate to keep things in play in that sort of long iron distance, then I think there would be merit for folks to have a 13 club bag with more standard setup and gapping, then have an OL 4ish club to just slap it around and keep it in play from certain spots. But for that specific purpose, a OL utility iron or hybrid might suit better that purpose than the KTx head specifically.
Standard tec left, x right.View attachment 9304823
Short irons are going to surprise some people, really. Those at the PWs. I dare you to guess which is which.