This is my first set of Cobra irons, but I have a feeling it won't be the last.
2024 Cobra King Tec, King Tec-X, and King Tec-X One Length Irons
I can't wait to follow your season with these in the bag and hear your thoughts as you get to spend more time with them!
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Getting ready to go play 9. I hit the X really solid in the sim last weekend. Hopefully that carries over to this evening. Going back to the XT Soft also, so I’m expecting to see even more distance than I did with the Tour B-RXS.
Always interesting diving into a new brand no less something like irons. Will be interested to see how the transition goes. Anything you are particularly forward to or looking to improve with your new set?
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Had my first round with the new King Tec in the bag tonight, no range right into the fire! I ordered my King Tec 5-pw and I ordered them 2* weak and 1* flat with the same MMT 105 shafts I have been playing for several years. If you are wondering why its for a couple reasons. First because I am a low spin player I need more spin and I need more launch. I have been playing Cobra CB's all of last year so with great success and wanted to get closer to those specs with the new King Tec.
First off these look amazing. They are a little bigger to my eye but not much. When struck well they feel and sound pretty darn good, especially for a hollow body iron. Something was off today and it was probably me lol, yes I can admit to not being perfect though generally I consider myself a pretty decent ball striker. Every iron I hit went left on me. I can't put my finger on why exactly but I had a similar issue when I played the Forged Tec X a few years back. I'll get it sorted out.
It was really windy today and I only hit 22% GIR compared to 55% last season according to the shot scope data. Its early in the season, its was 49* today but at least the sun was out. I can't wait to get back out and hit them again.
First off these look amazing. They are a little bigger to my eye but not much. When struck well they feel and sound pretty darn good, especially for a hollow body iron. Something was off today and it was probably me lol, yes I can admit to not being perfect though generally I consider myself a pretty decent ball striker. Every iron I hit went left on me. I can't put my finger on why exactly but I had a similar issue when I played the Forged Tec X a few years back. I'll get it sorted out.
It was really windy today and I only hit 22% GIR compared to 55% last season according to the shot scope data. Its early in the season, its was 49* today but at least the sun was out. I can't wait to get back out and hit them again.
Wow those look great
I went with the King Tec and I have played a few other players distance irons, so from a feel and performance standpoint I have some idea of what I'm getting. Where I went outside of what I know was the MMT 105 X shafts, I've gamed steel shafts that were a similar weight and flex, and I've tried graphite a few times in the hitting bays, but I've never gamed them for a full season. Early returns have been promising and I have my first round with them Friday. So details to come.
I did a little informal gapping session this evening with the 5-PW. Starting with 5 iron, I was looking for a carry of 200 to keep it 15 yards short of the 4 hybrid and it didn't disappoint, down to the 6 iron, looking for a 185 carry number
Mission accomplished.
So on to the 7 and 170, got it. The 8 and 155, yep you guessed it. 9 and 140, sure keep it rolling. Finished up with PW and a carry of 125. All of this comes with the "hitting off a mat, into a net" disclaimer but I love what I'm seeing so far. Big first test tomorrow, let's go!
Mission accomplished.
So on to the 7 and 170, got it. The 8 and 155, yep you guessed it. 9 and 140, sure keep it rolling. Finished up with PW and a carry of 125. All of this comes with the "hitting off a mat, into a net" disclaimer but I love what I'm seeing so far. Big first test tomorrow, let's go!
I'm starting to find a really nice groove with the King Tec in the sim. I need a few more sessions next week to really get an understanding for yardages and gaps.
Irons have been a dream to hit from a consistency of flight perspective, though. They just want to go high and straight. Maybe a little bit of a draw to them. A problem I had with 243 was overcooked 10- 15 y draws, and so far with KT I haven't seen as much of that. Obviously, they are not built to be as workable as a 243 and that is perfectly fine with me. I like what I see with the ball flight. Forgiveness has been great. There are several times I've missed it pretty low on the face, and they were definitely not as short as I expected it to be. Still had decent albeit lower ball flight. Same story with my stock toe side miss I'm not seeing the same dramatic loss of distance that I'm used to with 243.
The stock MMT 105s shafts I have in them have been taking a little bit of an adjustment period from Axiom 105s that I usually game. But that adjustment period seems to be settling in nicely now.
I really need to get these outdoors and start seeing how the high ball flight and nice landing angles I'm seeing in the simulator translate to holding greens. I'm obviously getting less spin with this set, but I don't think it's going to be an issue. Need to verify.
Irons have been a dream to hit from a consistency of flight perspective, though. They just want to go high and straight. Maybe a little bit of a draw to them. A problem I had with 243 was overcooked 10- 15 y draws, and so far with KT I haven't seen as much of that. Obviously, they are not built to be as workable as a 243 and that is perfectly fine with me. I like what I see with the ball flight. Forgiveness has been great. There are several times I've missed it pretty low on the face, and they were definitely not as short as I expected it to be. Still had decent albeit lower ball flight. Same story with my stock toe side miss I'm not seeing the same dramatic loss of distance that I'm used to with 243.
The stock MMT 105s shafts I have in them have been taking a little bit of an adjustment period from Axiom 105s that I usually game. But that adjustment period seems to be settling in nicely now.
I really need to get these outdoors and start seeing how the high ball flight and nice landing angles I'm seeing in the simulator translate to holding greens. I'm obviously getting less spin with this set, but I don't think it's going to be an issue. Need to verify.
I wish I hit my irons better last night but my rusty early season swing wasn't giving me much to go on. I will say though, I hit a couple really good shots and the irons perform great when struck well....I just hit some really bad ones that were all me.
For a player like myself, that tends to get a lot of height and spin out of my irons, these seem to be a really good fit for me to help fight that a bit and bring my flight and spin down a bit, but still 100% playable. I was still getting shots to sit softly on the few greens I hit, but did so in a more penetrating flight and even into the wind weren't ballooning like other irons have for me in the past. I've been for whatever reason ignoring this style of iron in the past but I really feel that they are a fantastic fit for me so far.
Hopefully I can come into this thread a little further into the season and really be able to talk about what they are doing for me compared to iron styles I have had in the past such as the king tours.
For a player like myself, that tends to get a lot of height and spin out of my irons, these seem to be a really good fit for me to help fight that a bit and bring my flight and spin down a bit, but still 100% playable. I was still getting shots to sit softly on the few greens I hit, but did so in a more penetrating flight and even into the wind weren't ballooning like other irons have for me in the past. I've been for whatever reason ignoring this style of iron in the past but I really feel that they are a fantastic fit for me so far.
Hopefully I can come into this thread a little further into the season and really be able to talk about what they are doing for me compared to iron styles I have had in the past such as the king tours.
First round out with the King Tec irons today. The tees the group I was paired with played were 5900 yards, so the course on most holes was reduced to driver/wedge. However, there were still irons to be hit. Highlights on the day were a 9 iron on the par 3 145 yard 7th that I hit to about 12 feet. My second shot on the par 5 11th hole was a 5 iron, that upon striking it, I thought "oh, mama that's going to be good" It was and went 205 yards right where I was aimed. The contact felt effortless and amazing. Lastly, an 8 iron that went 147 yards into the fan and nestled on the fringe of the front right green on 17. The misses were there too. Notably a 7 iron that I comically mishit on the par 3 5th hole, that the wind weakly pushed into a water hazard. A PW that I caught pure on the 14th hole par 3, it went 140 yards, but the pin was 126 yards. Oops. Lastly, and I chalk this up to the relatively short time we have been together, I had 145 yards into the the 16th green with a steady right to left crosswind blowing. My gut told me 9 iron, but I waited for the green to clear, my head talked me into an 8 iron. My head was wrong and the cleanly hit 8 iron went 160 yards to very back of an uphill green that left me a lengthy downhill putt for par. For a first round, the highs were high and the lows were manageable. I like these irons quite a bit and I think we are going to be great friends.
So did you find that you were hitting a bit longer than your previous set? What kind of irons are you coming from? From my king tours, I felt like I was getting about 5 or so more yards at least on solid hits. Notably I typically play my 5 iron about 185, and hit into a 196 yard shot with just a touch of breeze helping, and was hole high.
I was gaming Callaway Ti-Fusion prior to this, so a similar profile but they were steel shafted with Project X LZ and these have MMT 105s in them. So the feel is different. Distance has been in the same ballpark, but the sample is still relatively small. Really just an excuse to continue hitting them, in the name of science and all. LOL
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I'm getting really into the sound of these when struck well. Just sound solid. Not as soft as others I've used previously, but definitely a good solid sound when struck well.
Ended up going out to a sim with my son since it's pretty rainy out today, but had a nice time and got some good iron shots in with the King Tecs. What was weird, is the way the simulator was determining distance. On the practice range of the sim, I was hitting pretty typical distances for what I'd look for out of irons. But when I did a practice round at Muirfield, my iron distances were higher. So, not sure what to take from that, but from what I saw on Thursday I find these are a tad longer than my king tours, even having lofted down my king tours down to about the same lofts these King Tecs are. Still getting plenty of height as well out of them, but spin numbers at least on the sim were quite a bit lower than I'd expect from my King Tours previously...again though hard to tell how accurately it was determining it. Also super pleased with my choice of the KBS $ taper 120's in black. They look so good with them.
Ended up going out to a sim with my son since it's pretty rainy out today, but had a nice time and got some good iron shots in with the King Tecs. What was weird, is the way the simulator was determining distance. On the practice range of the sim, I was hitting pretty typical distances for what I'd look for out of irons. But when I did a practice round at Muirfield, my iron distances were higher. So, not sure what to take from that, but from what I saw on Thursday I find these are a tad longer than my king tours, even having lofted down my king tours down to about the same lofts these King Tecs are. Still getting plenty of height as well out of them, but spin numbers at least on the sim were quite a bit lower than I'd expect from my King Tours previously...again though hard to tell how accurately it was determining it. Also super pleased with my choice of the KBS $ taper 120's in black. They look so good with them.
So the King Tec do not sound good when you wander across the face, but there is a lot of stability built into them to where the ball just doesn’t want to go offline. It’s been really interesting to see during this initial get to know period.
Also love how you can work them a bit if needed. Was able to flight a little punch cut through some trees with very little issue. I sometimes need that in my game.
Also love how you can work them a bit if needed. Was able to flight a little punch cut through some trees with very little issue. I sometimes need that in my game.
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I only have one round under my belt with the King Tec. The weather here continues to be uncooperative but yesterday I found my way to an outdoor range just focusing on what went wrong that first round. I have my King Tec in a setup that is comfortable for me as I have played these shafts for several years so it was a bit odd to see things not go as expected.
At the range all was right in the world so it was just a me thing that first round. Shocking I know haha. Balls struck "around" the center of the face feel very good for this type of iron. The sound is not quite the same as I would get from a well struck CB but its very good. When you miss around the face, like any iron, it lets you know it. I appreciate that actually but I do feel there is a little more margin for error than I would have gotten with my CB's from last season. I was able to hit all types of ball flights with these so they are workable, probably due to not being overly large.
forgive the ball marks the range balls were filthy but are a good indicator of ball strikes
I'm going to be paying attention to a couple things as I go on. The first is my divots. I would generally consider myself a sweeper, when I'm swinging well I don't take big divots, however for whatever reason last season with the CB's in the bag I magically started taking proper divots and my ball striking was very good. Having these bent 2* weak for some added launch and spin may affect that, I will just have to see. The other thing is my ball height and spin on the greens. While I'm very familiar with this shaft setup I might consider going to something a bit different if I notice I need more launch/spin with these.
At the range all was right in the world so it was just a me thing that first round. Shocking I know haha. Balls struck "around" the center of the face feel very good for this type of iron. The sound is not quite the same as I would get from a well struck CB but its very good. When you miss around the face, like any iron, it lets you know it. I appreciate that actually but I do feel there is a little more margin for error than I would have gotten with my CB's from last season. I was able to hit all types of ball flights with these so they are workable, probably due to not being overly large.
forgive the ball marks the range balls were filthy but are a good indicator of ball strikes
I'm going to be paying attention to a couple things as I go on. The first is my divots. I would generally consider myself a sweeper, when I'm swinging well I don't take big divots, however for whatever reason last season with the CB's in the bag I magically started taking proper divots and my ball striking was very good. Having these bent 2* weak for some added launch and spin may affect that, I will just have to see. The other thing is my ball height and spin on the greens. While I'm very familiar with this shaft setup I might consider going to something a bit different if I notice I need more launch/spin with these.
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The TEC’s and I are having a lot of getting to know you going on at the moment.
Feel wise, I’m spoiled by my Limit3d, and that’s part of the adaptation for me. Now I know some will scoff at that comment and take it the wrong way, but moving back to a hollow design takes a little getting used to for me. That said, it’s pretty astounding how much better they are than the first iteration I played (and had my HIO with).
On flushed shots, they’re hot. It’s just a feeling of power for me. I’m very happy I went 1 weak because holy **** they are long long. The easy distance is absolutely a blast.
All that said, I am making some setup changes this week, the weight of the TX 105 MMT are great in them, but there is zero feel or flow at all. For me, it feels like I’m using PX 7.0’s in them. So, we adapt and change.
I got some cool ferrules in yesterday that have a mix of Hackers Red and THP Green, so those were always going to get installed. Now though, it’ll either be on Dart 105 F5’s or Dart V 120 F5’s.
Hoping to do that build tonight/tomorrow to be ready for 5 days of golf next week.
Feel wise, I’m spoiled by my Limit3d, and that’s part of the adaptation for me. Now I know some will scoff at that comment and take it the wrong way, but moving back to a hollow design takes a little getting used to for me. That said, it’s pretty astounding how much better they are than the first iteration I played (and had my HIO with).
On flushed shots, they’re hot. It’s just a feeling of power for me. I’m very happy I went 1 weak because holy **** they are long long. The easy distance is absolutely a blast.
All that said, I am making some setup changes this week, the weight of the TX 105 MMT are great in them, but there is zero feel or flow at all. For me, it feels like I’m using PX 7.0’s in them. So, we adapt and change.
I got some cool ferrules in yesterday that have a mix of Hackers Red and THP Green, so those were always going to get installed. Now though, it’ll either be on Dart 105 F5’s or Dart V 120 F5’s.
Hoping to do that build tonight/tomorrow to be ready for 5 days of golf next week.
I’m really struggling so far with King Tec/MMT 105s. They are heavier in general than my old set (MP 243/Axiom105) around 15g heavier total weight.
They are a couple points heavier in swing weight most coming in right around D4 whereas my old set were all D2.
@Golfers Anonymous was kind enough to measure this all out for me.
I seem to be having issues shutting the face for my stock iron draw. I’m setting up for a draw and then just blocking everything right. I feel like that could be at least partially attributed to the weight change. Just not getting thru it? I don’t know. It’s a struggle but I’ll keep grinding thru and find it eventually.
I need to figure out if it’s gonna be possible to get them to D2 without adding even more total weight to them since they are already 15g heavy. I don’t know a lot about these things though.
They are a couple points heavier in swing weight most coming in right around D4 whereas my old set were all D2.
@Golfers Anonymous was kind enough to measure this all out for me.
I seem to be having issues shutting the face for my stock iron draw. I’m setting up for a draw and then just blocking everything right. I feel like that could be at least partially attributed to the weight change. Just not getting thru it? I don’t know. It’s a struggle but I’ll keep grinding thru and find it eventually.
I need to figure out if it’s gonna be possible to get them to D2 without adding even more total weight to them since they are already 15g heavy. I don’t know a lot about these things though.
I took my new irons out to Vegas this week and managed to get 2 rounds in. Although my score did not reflect it, I hit my irons really well as I become more comfortable with these new irons, I have picked up a significant amount of yardage compared to what I was getting when I got fit. To recap, I ended up getting 127yds fairly consistently at Cobra HQ. In Vegas, I was getting 145yds consistently with my 7iron which is better than I have seen in a while. Part of that is the strong lofts compared to my King Tours, but the larger part is that I am swinging these much more confidently. The larger heads and tungsten gives me much more forgiveness to swing sway at the ball. One of the things I really like about these irons is that you know when you miss the center, but the results still look like it was hit near the center.
I was hoping somebody would have some suggestions for swing weighting based on my post above.
But today, I’ll be doing a gapping session at the simulator with King Tec. I haven’t done gapping with launch monitor numbers yet. I’ll be back later on today with some results. And more thoughts.
But today, I’ll be doing a gapping session at the simulator with King Tec. I haven’t done gapping with launch monitor numbers yet. I’ll be back later on today with some results. And more thoughts.
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Im diving into this a bit, but im not a huge swing weight person because I find it a bit antiquated in terms of its easy to trick.
Do you think the 2 swing weight points are the issue in face closure? Seems like with a head like this, that would be extremely easy to correct.
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Seems like if the head weight is too much, having an iron where it can be adjusted is perfect. Have you considered changing out the weight?
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I genuinely don't know, because I have not had to, but I am positive that they can be acquired. During my last meeting with Jose, we talked about weight change and how much that impacts face closure. He does not believe it does, however will obviously change swing weight and the persons body adjusting to different things can impact that.