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fuffle master said:
Waivers using blind bids can really bring a skill element into a league. Most of us probably play in leagues that use the standings order for waivers, but when you add in an opportunity for anyone to get the player they want by bidding, that can really be a skill.
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FAAB is my number one thing that I think should be standard setting. Even more so than superflex.
 
BuckNasty said:
Isn’t that the point of trades though? Resulting in improvements for both teams involved
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Two camps/owners when it comes to trades. One camp is let’s do a fair trade that we both think helps. The other and unfortunately seems to be more leagues, the person who has to win every trade.

The years playing in THP have been great with most trades. Much more friendly then when playing with strangers on the internet.
 
fuffle master said:
I would argue you had the foresight to see the possible decline of Zeke and threw some eggs in the basket with drafting Pollard. Sure, it could simply be he was next on the list to draft and you got lucky or you were looking at backup RBs that had potential to hit majorly if the right circumstances happen.

Take Puka last year. Was he simply a luck pick or were some that drafted him skillful as they saw a potential that didn’t equate his actual real NFL draft value?

Edit: let me preface to say absolutely the above sentence does not mean and fantasy drafters knew better then NFL scouts in why Puka went in the 5th round of the NFL draft. Just the opportunity he had on a fantasy scoring team gave him possible good outcomes.
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very true. If it was easy no NFL team would actually pick busts. *except the browns. They do it on purpose
 
fuffle master said:
Two camps/owners when it comes to trades. One camp is let’s do a fair trade that we both think helps. The other and unfortunately seems to be more leagues, the person who has to win every trade.

The years playing in THP have been great with most trades. Much more friendly then when playing with strangers on the internet.
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I think it’s pretty easy to spot those folks out though and just not trade with them in your league
 
generally I trade due to injuries. Need to give up something to make up for it cause waivers tend to be thin in a 14 man league like the THP leagues
 
fuffle master said:
My father and I have this conversation all the time: luck vs skill in fantasy sports. I think we all agree you need a little of both to win.

He is in the luck plays more of a role and I on the skill plays more if a role in determining the winner.

I would argue that you can’t win on a consistent basis if it’s more about luck. There is a reason some can play professionally in fantasy sports and why others just have fun.
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I ran poker tournaments for years w/ the same players you see on tv. Friendly w/ a couple guys who have won the main event. I’d definitely takes a combination of luck & skill. In poker you have to run really good in tournaments but the same guys/girls consistently make long runs in them. I thing the same principles apply to FF. Very similar and I know there is a lot of crossover between the 2 w/ high stakes players.
 
In 12 teams or less involved in a league, it’s more luck than skill. The more people in the lesgue the more skill is involved.

It matters to know your **** after round 8 of a 16 team league. I still remember a guy making fun of GG in this draft for not taking a TE one year. Last round she took Julius Thomas. Nobody had ever heard of him.

The “experts” on the internet are ******* hysterical. It usually came down to someone screwed them every time their “master knowledge” was put on display in 14-16 team leagues
 
Totally agree the more players rostered/started or amount of teams increases the skill level.

You can easily make a 12 team league more skilled then a 14 team league by adding more starters or larger rosters.

A 14 team league with 6 starters is less skilled than a 12 team SuperFlex that starts 11 players. Not counting defense and kickers because I have yet to play a league that likes starting extra def or k.

Plus, if you don’t make a league with a little luck too many players will quit. It is better to have a fun league with many owners fighting for playoff slots vs a league of a couple super teams and everyone else not even turning in their starting lineups.
 
Injuries in large leagues are just so hard to overcome because there is just no one available on the waiver wire. To me, that is where luck comes in much like the real NFL. You lose a starting WR or QB in the regular league, you struggle. You lose a RB or WR in fantasy in a large league, the backup is often already on another team. And you can’t handcuff everyone.

I guess I am on the luck side of things when it comes to FF due to health. Some skilled players are better at managing injuries for certain
 
oumagic said:
Injuries in large leagues are just so hard to overcome because there is just no one available on the waiver wire. To me, that is where luck comes in much like the real NFL. You lose a starting WR or QB in the regular league, you struggle. You lose a RB or WR in fantasy in a large league, the backup is often already on another team. And you can’t handcuff everyone.

I guess I am on the luck side of things when it comes to FF due to health. Some skilled players are better at managing injuries for certain
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Comes down to draft more than anything else and creating depth
 
JB said:
Comes down to draft more than anything else and creating depth
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I would argue that ADP largely stays the same regardless of how big the league is. You naturally are going to build a team that is flawed at some position in a large league. It’s not possible to have a perfect team in a 14/16 team league. It’s going to be flawed. Just like it’s not possible to have a bad team in 10 team and fewer leagues. Injuries impact you more because there’s not depth available on waiver wire.

I don’t think one is better than the other. Both requires some skill and some luck. Just different luck. Fantasy is fun regardless.
 
Joshnoble01 said:
I would argue that ADP largely stays the same regardless of how big the league is. You naturally are going to build a team that is flawed at some position in a large league. It’s not possible to have a perfect team in a 14/16 team league. It’s going to be flawed. Just like it’s not possible to have a bad team in 10 team and fewer leagues. Injuries impact you more because there’s not depth available on waiver wire.

I don’t think one is better than the other. Both requires some skill and some luck. Just different luck. Fantasy is fun regardless.
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Disagree. It just makes the later rounds more important
 
I have won leagues when I thought my draft was poor. Mainly because I drafted someone that took over for an injured starter or something strange.

Some of my worst seasons are when I think “I nailed that draft”

I really like fantasy football. But I like playing golf more 😎
 
JB said:
Disagree. It just makes the later rounds more important
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I agree that the later rounds are very important, but there is definitely luck involved on hitting some of those.
 
JB said:
Disagree. It just makes the later rounds more important
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Well it makes drafting more important. But it makes waivers less impactful because there aren’t as many guys to comb through.

It’s a fun discussion.

Also best format is 12 man superflex because it actually makes the most important position important.
 
49’ers take Purdy. Sure, it was a great pick, but if they were really that smart, they would have picked him earlier and not risk losing a starting QB by waiting until the last pick.

That is how I feel about late rounds in large leagues. Sure, some picks end up looking like they were genius picks but there is definitely some luck involved.
 
I can say when I look back at my teams that win, usually it’s because I had a pick or more later in the draft that worked out. Some will say that is luck, because the natural thought is why didn’t you draft the player earlier. That’s were ADP and mocking comes into play.

However, there is no doubt you need to have some luck to win. I remember a draft where the player I wanted was sniped right before my pick, so I had to adjust and picked the next player in my ranking. My player ends up being Marques Colston and I win.

I think you can’t win your league from the draft alone, but you sure can lose it.
 
fuffle master said:
I can say when I look back at my teams that win, usually it’s because I had a pick or more later in the draft that worked out. Some will say that is luck, because the natural thought is why didn’t you draft the player earlier. That’s were ADP and mocking comes into play.

However, there is no doubt you need to have some luck to win. I remember a draft where the player I wanted was sniped right before my pick, so I had to adjust and picked the next player in my ranking. My player ends up being Marques Colston and I win.

I think you can’t win your league from the draft alone, but you sure can lose it.
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I fully agree with this.
 
oumagic said:
I have won leagues when I thought my draft was poor. Mainly because I drafted someone that took over for an injured starter or something strange.

Some of my worst seasons are when I think “I nailed that draft”

I really like fantasy football. But I like playing golf more 😎
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Ballyhack is going to be fun!
 
sunshine said:
Im guessing you won’t have to walk the course either!?!
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I hope not.. if it’s just weight based then I’m good. Way past goal. I plan on gaining a few lbs back that weekend.
 
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