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I’m not sure you understood my original post. I’m saying let’s not pretend like if any conference other than SEC or Big 10 said this money throwing non stop tampering psycho system is out of control with no regulation that everyone would be like DUH. It’s only because it’s the SEC everyone goes oh look at them whining. If it was MWC everyone would be like absolutely! SEC isn’t remotely wrong in saying the no regulation system is out of control. It’s just people can’t put their anti SEC bias aside even if they know it’s 100% true that the sport needs regulation before quite simply conferences start making decisions for themselves.I wouldn’t. 24 teams is stupid.
The sport absolutely needs regulation. AND the current system has allowed others to start catching the SEC, and for programs to transform and that is also a threat to the SEC.I’m not sure you understood my original post. I’m saying let’s not pretend like if any conference other than SEC or Big 10 said this money throwing non stop tampering psycho system is out of control with no regulation that everyone would be like DUH. It’s only because it’s the SEC everyone goes oh look at them whining. If it was MWC everyone would be like absolutely! SEC isn’t remotely wrong in saying the no regulation system is out of control. It’s just people can’t put their anti SEC bias aside even if they know it’s 100% true that the sport needs regulation before quite simply conferences start making decisions for themselves.
It’s not just SEC though. Programs like Ohio State lost a top WR and he was main player and certain starter next year which they aren’t poor. Nevermind the tampering is out of control. Players commit and then a school comes with a blank check and they flip a day later. It’s basically using commitments as negotiations tactics now. While fans might be excited of what they see as parity eventually you will see NIL exhaustion. Especially if certain schools just dominate from billionaires. Everyone will complain the same way they did the old system. That’s if conferences don’t start wondering if it’s worth staying. If you look at Big 10 and SEC revenue it’s huge and they own viewership. SEC had the top viewing across the season (SEC owned the top 10 spots with 8. Bama topped the list. Ohio State and Mich were the other top 10.).The sport absolutely needs regulation. AND the current system has allowed others to start catching the SEC, and for programs to transform and that is also a threat to the SEC.
Again, I acknowledge the system needs fixing. I am simply saying the old system was at least equally flawed, but it favored others...namely certain conferences (SEC) and schools that were willing to pay. That aside, the more recent "old" system was even worse for the player manipulation you mention. For example, the Spring portal window was eliminated because it became a blatant opportunity for agents / players to circle back for more money than they got in the winter (under threat of leaving).It’s not just SEC though. Programs like Ohio State lost a top WR and he was main player and certain starter next year which they aren’t poor. Nevermind the tampering is out of control. Players commit and then a school comes with a blank check and they flip a day later. It’s basically using commitments as negotiations tactics now. While fans might be excited of what they see as parity eventually you will see NIL exhaustion. Especially if certain schools just dominate from billionaires. Everyone will complain the same way they did the old system. That’s if conferences don’t start wondering if it’s worth staying. If you look at Big 10 and SEC revenue it’s huge and they own viewership. SEC had the top viewing across the season (SEC owned the top 10 spots with 8. Bama topped the list. Ohio State and Mich were the other top 10.).
I don’t know that either of the WRs we lost were certain starters next year. I think that’s part of why they jumpedIt’s not just SEC though. Programs like Ohio State lost a top WR and he was main player and certain starter next year which they aren’t poor. Nevermind the tampering is out of control. Players commit and then a school comes with a blank check and they flip a day later. It’s basically using commitments as negotiations tactics now. While fans might be excited of what they see as parity eventually you will see NIL exhaustion. Especially if certain schools just dominate from billionaires. Everyone will complain the same way they did the old system. That’s if conferences don’t start wondering if it’s worth staying. If you look at Big 10 and SEC revenue it’s huge and they own viewership. SEC had the top viewing across the season (SEC owned the top 10 spots with 8. Bama topped the list. Ohio State and Mich were the other top 10.).
SEC viewership isn’t going anywhere. Football and South is religion. Auburn was awful (Sorry @War Eagle ) and still 8th in viewing. Texas A&M was 10th and was a playoff team. Yes schools may improve and be contenders but that doesn’t mean the sport is ingrained. Ohio State’s football stadium is basically like a cathedral and I mean that if you’ve seen the architecture. Mich‘s stadium basically becomes a city on game day. There’s certain programs and conferences that the sport is in their blood. If Indiana turned bad the next two years the stadium would empty out again. LSU has had totally tough years and still packs the place of 100,000. Nebraska has sucked forever and still sells out every game for like what 30,40 years lol? If the complete fan shift you are suggesting ever happened that would hurt the sport as that would mean the death to hardcore fan bases. In place would just be year to year bandwagon fans and gamblers.Again, I acknowledge the system needs fixing. I am simply saying the old system was at least equally flawed, but it favored others...namely certain conferences (SEC) and and schools that were willing to pay. That aside, the more recent "old" system was even worse for the player manipulation you mention. For example, the Spring portal window was eliminated because it became a blatant opportunity for agents / players to circle back for more money than they got in the winter (under threat of leaving).
Yes, the SEC / B1G have viewership right now. But that can change, as the money allows the talent to be distributed to different teams and we see different on field results. See Indiana. And if I do say so myself...Cal has among the largest and richest alumni base in the world. As the administration changes its view of sports we are very much the potential next Indiana story. I like that, not just for me but for others who now (finally) have a chance. It is no fun being the perpetual Pittsburg Pirates of college football.
Please noMaybe Miami be hard-up enough to sign him...
Quincy? He was Ohio St’s like top recruit. Can’t see him being on the bench and I saw a lot of Buckeyes fans pissed he left.I don’t know that either of the WRs we lost were certain starters next year. I think that’s part of why they jumped
He was a top WR and a starter next year? OSU lost one WR and is set to get Chris Henry JR. he still would have been probably the 4th WR.It’s not just SEC though. Programs like Ohio State lost a top WR and he was main player and certain starter next year which they aren’t poor. Nevermind the tampering is out of control. Players commit and then a school comes with a blank check and they flip a day later. It’s basically using commitments as negotiations tactics now. While fans might be excited of what they see as parity eventually you will see NIL exhaustion. Especially if certain schools just dominate from billionaires. Everyone will complain the same way they did the old system. That’s if conferences don’t start wondering if it’s worth staying. If you look at Big 10 and SEC revenue it’s huge and they own viewership. SEC had the top viewing across the season (SEC owned the top 10 spots with 8. Bama topped the list. Ohio State and Mich were the other top 10.).
He was hurt most of the season, then we played a walk on over him near the end of the year. And Buckeyes fans are always pissed about everythingQuincy? He was Ohio St’s like top recruit. Can’t see him being on the bench and I saw a lot of Buckeyes fans pissed he left.
most of them are dumb about everything overall. He had a lot of potential but isn't a massive loss at this point. The only WR they lost who actually got playing time and will be a loss is Tate to the draft.Quincy? He was Ohio St’s like top recruit. Can’t see him being on the bench and I saw a lot of Buckeyes fans pissed he left.
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Had or has a lot of potential? Isn’t he going into his sophomore year and coming off a year he was injured for most of it?most of them are dumb about everything overall. He had a lot of potential but isn't a massive loss at this point. The only WR they lost who actually got playing time and will be a loss is Tate to the draft.
Had for OSU since he now left. Still does have a lot of potential overall.Had or has a lot of potential? Isn’t he going into his sophomore year and coming off a year he was injured for most of it?
Had or has a lot of potential? Isn’t he going into his sophomore year and coming off a year he was injured for most of it?
He had his knee cleaned up recently, so that definitely could be why he was passed up at the end of the season. He was the only guy in the spring to lose his black stripe, so he was in the plans to contribute. I think he would've been given every chance to compete for the wr2 starting spot opposite Smith.Had for OSU since he now left. Still does have a lot of potential overall.
I think ND picked up less than 4 five stars in the last decade and now there are 4 coming in for next year. Unreal roster retention, recruiting, and portal use.
Money definitely leveled the playing field. ND roster next year reportedly in $30-35M range.
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That you again, Alabama Jones?Please tell the longtime D1 schools that have self relegated because they can’t afford it anymore it’s leveled lol. Like said in a not so distant future everyone will complain about the same teams dominating due to richest donors. Everyone is a Cinderella until you start winning a lot. Then you become a villain.
For alot of teams the gap got bigger. Not smaller.
Sorry to bring logic here Celtic compadre. The richest teams will dominate college football. Well richest donors. Eventually the teams that can’t compete will go private equity. See Utah. Eventually college football will become EPL/ La Liga. Fans will get priced out. It might take a few years but eventually you’ll see the same teams dominate the sport and we’ll be back to the same complaints except the complaints will be buying championships instead of under the table stuff.That you again, Alabama Jones?
He never would have had a spec of chance to be WR2. And even WR3 was a Junior in Inniss (who is coming back for his senior year as well), so I doubt that was open much either. He would have had to be pretty special to break into that, which with Chris Henry Jr supposedly coming in, he was most likely going to have to fight for 3rd or 4th again. If he stayed completely healthy this year he might have had a chance at WR3 at the highest, and some guys, especially 5 stars out of high school, don't always want to do that.He had his knee cleaned up recently, so that definitely could be why he was passed up at the end of the season. He was the only guy in the spring to lose his black stripe, so he was in the plans to contribute. I think he would've been given every chance to compete for the wr2 starting spot opposite Smith.
But like you guys have said, it's all based on potential still. ND is a great landing spot for him, and hopefully he fully lives up to it.
The opposite is literally happening right before our eyes. Money is distributing talent, not hording it. The SEC has not even made a championship game - much less won one - in the last 3 years. Vanderbilt is good at football. Indiana is about to win a Natty. Some traditional powers - Clemson, USC, Penn State, Auburn, Florida to name a few - have underperformed relative to their supposed pedigree. For as jacked up as the system is, it is producing a more robust market for competition on the field.Sorry to bring logic here Celtic compadre. The richest teams will dominate college football. Well richest donors. Eventually the teams that can’t compete will go private equity. See Utah. Eventually college football will become EPL/ La Liga. Fans will get priced out. It might take a few years but eventually you’ll see the same teams dominate the sport and we’ll be back to the same complaints except the complaints will be buying championships instead of under the table stuff.
I’m rooting for him to reach his full potential as a fellow NJ-native.He had his knee cleaned up recently, so that definitely could be why he was passed up at the end of the season. He was the only guy in the spring to lose his black stripe, so he was in the plans to contribute. I think he would've been given every chance to compete for the wr2 starting spot opposite Smith.
But like you guys have said, it's all based on potential still. ND is a great landing spot for him, and hopefully he fully lives up to it.