I completely agree! But you have to have expectations as to what course you are on. County courses with beginner and old golfers. Good Luck! Thats why I like some more expensive courses. Sometimes that keeps the riff raf away.
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Windy Hills. I believe they now go by 10 mins. I haven’t been back in almost 2 years. Bud of mine lives near there and says it’s not worth it plus it’s pretty much the farthest club from me in Central VA. Rather go somewhere else for a few bucks more. Or go to the course nearby that I can walk (Pretty much everyone does. Historic course Hogan and Snead won on) for like 30 /15 at twilight as a part member with some of the best greens.
(It is a shame though because the owner is really nice. Golf sort of saved her life and that got her to buy the course and look to redo it as the previous owner was neglecting it. I just don’t think they have the money)
True but that can be course dependent. I’m not likely to see a new golfer at Royal New Kent here. It’s hard as hell and they’ll be crushed on that course. Now if I go to first Tee chesterfield that is extremely forgiving you’ll get a bunch of new golfers and they are not remotely quick. They hack it everywhere and don’t know when you to pick up or just move themselves farther up to take a shot. That’s assuming they play tees appropriate for their skill.
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So non-new golfers don’t hack it everywhere?
I must’ve been dreaming all these years at events/experiences
Of course they hack it. But many new golfers don’t learn to hack fast. They only go out to hack it with buds and have beers. They aren’t really focused on the game side. Don’t get wrong I’ve been paired with newish golfers and some figure it out especially if paired with someone who does really follow golf protocol. Everyone is gonna suck at the beginning. Good players can absolutely suck too. Pros as well. Just suck faster lol. Don’t me wrong it’s good when new golfers try to pick an easier golf course to learn but don’t think that means you should take 20-30 mins in a hole. For me if it’s a triple bogey/quad in a casual round I’m picking up. I’m not gonna hack it for 10,11, etc shots with my group done.So non-new golfers don’t hack it everywhere?
I must’ve been dreaming all these years at events/experiences
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I would argue that experienced golfers reading the greens from 12 angles and then aimpointing on top of that, take longer than most new golfers.
So non-new golfers don’t hack it everywhere?
I must’ve been dreaming all these years at events/experiences
I don't know how to define "new" but i tend to think of it as like semi-regular guys who play 5 times a year with their work outing or something
What makes these groups so slow is just total lack of understanding of how to move on a course. They leave their carts 30 yards back from the green and have to walk back, they are never ready to hit. They bring the wrong club to the green and have to go back....
Some of my best golf friends are hackers who play very fast. And new players if paired with someone who knows what they are doing, can also be fast. Me and my wife on our honeymoon played in <4 hours every round and it was her first rounds ever. I always made sure she had the right clubs, and parked the cart where it's supposed to be etc
SKY FISTER TAKE incoming:
-bring back learning to play from your grumpy grandpa. If your first exposure to golf etiquette is Bob Does Sports, then you are going to get off to a pretty rocky start
(not a drive by on Bobby Fairways)
-bring back learning to play from your grumpy grandpa. If your first exposure to golf etiquette is Bob Does Sports, then you are going to get off to a pretty rocky start
(not a drive by on Bobby Fairways)
I am ok with anything sub 5 hours. I am usually playing with friends and would rather not rush thru the course, 4:00 is great 4:30 is fine.
That stuff is waaay unnecessarily. I’ve yet to see anyone putt much better using aim point. I get the front and back angle. Honestly one angle alone gives you a good amount. Nevermind there was a video out awhile back that really where the focus needs to be is 10 ft and in as that’s where Pros excel percentage wise and amateurs take hits. I don’t even see pros do more than 2-3 generally.
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I prefer courses with 10-12 minutes between tee times. Anything less is a recipe for a 5 hour+ round if everyone on the course isn't playing at a fast pace. Which never happens, and you end up waiting on every hole..
It really isn’t a skill level thing. When my kids were younger and just starting out they shot 65+ for 9 holes and I never had any trouble finishing with two of them in my group in under 4 hours. We have two low single digit index golfers that are notorious for not being able to finish in less than 4hours even when riding as a twosome or threesome.
Same here. Last year every APT was like 5 1/2 hrs some going on 6 or actually hit well after 6 (Won’t deny theres some slow damn players on that tour. Some of it is intentional to throw others off no doubt.) That was a long day. I was generally last group out honors and that was where if you won you wanted to drop your stuff off, get through award stuff, take the champ pic, and go home. Some GD team will testify from sharing some news at events that the trophy was generally next to Taco Bell that I grabbed coming from those long days lol. 4 is phenomenal to me. 4:30 still great.
full agreement here - I would play more golf if I knew that telling the family I would only be gone for 4 hours instead of the dreaded 5 hour round in the shadows waiting to destroy all things planned for Saturday or Sunday afternoon!
7am tee time would have me home to make lunch for the kiddos
7am tee time would have me home to make lunch for the kiddos
I agree. I always shoot for 4. But my muni has 6 min intervals for tee times and on a beautiful day, you are behind timewise already when you arrive on the 1st hole.
Yes. Big time need for regular golfers to play more quickly.
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20 pages of solid agreement. Too bad the general golfing population and vast majority of public course operators don’t care. At the end of the day guys, you have to be willing to give something up to play in that 3-4 hour range. If you can’t or won’t pony up to play private, you’ll need to get creative.
My course is 6 minute tee times, and they're not strict about it. You go to the tee box, and when the group ahead of you is clear, you hit.
The pace, at least on early weekday mornings when we play, is generally at least decent. It's mostly senior citizens and a lot of them are in leagues, but they get around the course pretty well. It's very, very rare to have a round over 4 hours.
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We don’t really have too many problems that can’t be rectified at THP Experiences since they are smaller and the courses are all very private and not a lot of people on the course.
I agree, there are a few exceptions around here where the course has looooong treks between holes. But without those exceptions. Should definitely be sub 4.
I got behind these clowns 2 weeks ago that would let the green clear from a short par 4 and then skull it almost to the ladies tees. Rediculous stuff.
I got behind these clowns 2 weeks ago that would let the green clear from a short par 4 and then skull it almost to the ladies tees. Rediculous stuff.