That's so interesting. I'm also trying to wrap my head around the red picture being taken from the other side - two are hanging toe (red / white) and one hanging heel (blue)?
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That is correct.
But you can get the blue hosel to a toe hang also by changing the offset/onset.
I’ll try to get some more pics of how different hosel settings impact putter hang.
I can’t remember which one it was, but I had one set up where the putter was basically an inverted face balance. Putter was almost level but the face was down, not up.
I can’t remember which one it was, but I had one set up where the putter was basically an inverted face balance. Putter was almost level but the face was down, not up.
Sounds like that one would need therapy, for being unbalanced.
If there are any crazy settings you want to see I’ll try to re-create.Sounds like that one would need therapy, for being unbalanced.
Assuming you are asking about the Blue B10 position specifically.
- The blue hosel has the largest potential offset. The different offsets helps control where the shaft axis is relative to the head.
- the hosel has notches on both the top and bottom so A or B is which side is up or down.
- 10 is the position which notch in the hosel you are using. On a circle 1 would be top dead center and the numbers go up as you move clockwise around the circle. It’s not quite a clock face but 10 is going to be top left so a little bit of offset.
Combining all those factors if I’m remembering this correctly moving the shaft axis to the center of the face will make it fairly close to face balanced and having a little offset will help the face rotate a bit.
Because you can manipulate several parameters you can get a look and feel dialed in to make yourself happy.
Here is the full and uncut 28 minute video of my astral mallet fitting.
Sorry the audio is so bad. I forgot the external microphone so the audio is pure iPhone.
Sorry the audio is so bad. I forgot the external microphone so the audio is pure iPhone.
Hosel setting chart
Red hosel in various positions
A1 (no offset, toe hang)
A6 (no offset, most toe hang)
B3 (most offset, toe hang)
B8 (most onset, a kind of reverse toe hang)
A1 (no offset, toe hang)
A6 (no offset, most toe hang)
B3 (most offset, toe hang)
B8 (most onset, a kind of reverse toe hang)
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Thanks for letting us take a peek at that beauty! No need to bring two putters if your unsure what you want to roll that day with Astral. Just swap out the head and tweak it to the right settings.
Love that color combo!
Did more putting practice tonight on the mat. Going to give Red A3 a run for a while.
So far so good. I really like the feel of the brass insert. The sound isn’t much different than the putter I had in the bag. There is a little feedback in off center hits with a more muted sound. I’ve had good results with distance control. Enjoying this set up for now and will resist the urge to tinker until after my round this weekend.
So far so good. I really like the feel of the brass insert. The sound isn’t much different than the putter I had in the bag. There is a little feedback in off center hits with a more muted sound. I’ve had good results with distance control. Enjoying this set up for now and will resist the urge to tinker until after my round this weekend.
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It's crazy the level of customization and the drastic change being able to achieve.
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If I were to buy the full kit at home, how do I determine which is best for me? Do I need specific additional equipment? Is it just based on feel and personal feedback on what you think is best for you?
I think it would be trial and error until you find what gives you the best results. I think face insert is mostly personal preference as all three are the same weight.
As far as shaft, grip, head type, a quick call with @BC.Astral would get you pointed in the right direction.
Once you get the putter in hand, it’s a matter of going through the settings and seeing what works. A consistent miss is easiest to remedy as you can make changes to steer yourself back to center.
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How easy would you say is the process? Can everyone do it (all handicaps) or do you need to have already some understanding of putters?
I think anyone can do it. I’m a 19 HC and had no putter knowledge before being selected as a tester. Prior to this, my only requirement for a putter was that I can scoop the ball up with the back of the blade when leaving the green
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That's great to know because I'm sure it can be a hurdle and a bit scary for some people to think about buying it and not being able to make the proper fitting adjustmentsI think anyone can do it. I’m a 19 HC and had no putter knowledge before being selected as a tester. Prior to this, my only requirement for a putter was that I can scoop the ball up with the back of the blade when leaving the green
I get that. It could take a while. I’ve been self fitting so far. Found a few settings I really like but I think “the one” is still out there.
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Is that something that Astral team can help with through some type of remote fitting?
I think that is possible
My experience: I had a phone call with Blake and one of the other guys (Ryan) and we talked through the options and which might work best for me. I went in thinking one thing and came out of the call with almost a completely different setup after hearing Blake explain things and make recommendations. (Nothing crazy, but if I had just blindly ordered I would have been in a different shaft and grip.)
I later got an email from Blake with a detailed list of starting point and some nearby settings to try:
- Putter was sent to you Red A1 (smallest hosel, red painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock)
- Try all 3 A1 settings
- Start with Red A1, progress to White A1 (medium hosel, white painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock), then to Blue A1 (largest hosel, blue painted side up, sitting at 12 o'clock)
- Then experiment with offset to see how it affects performance
- Move to Red B1 (smallest hosel, red painted side down, first click forward of the face)
- Then try White B10 (medium hosel, white painted side down, first click back of the face)
- If you find a setting you really like the looks of, try all 3 hosels in that setting to identify which performs best.
- For example, if you like White B10, then explore Red B10 and Blue B10
On the good news front, UPS has my putter out for delivery today, it just didn't get scanned somewhere in CO before showing up here yesterday afternoon.
Great explanation. Not all trial and error. Blake does provide a guideline on how to work through the hosel settings. This is trying to get you close and then fine tune by manipulating toe hang and offset.My experience: I had a phone call with Blake and one of the other guys (Ryan) and we talked through the options and which might work best for me. I went in thinking one thing and came out of the call with almost a completely different setup after hearing Blake explain things and make recommendations. (Nothing crazy, but if I had just blindly ordered I would have been in a different shaft and grip.)
I later got an email from Blake with a detailed list of starting point and some nearby settings to try:
So it isn't just blindly fitting yourself. I view it kind of like the Cobra FF33 adapter - nobody is going to use or need all 33 settings, but EVERYONE will find 1-3 settings that work for them and those 1-3 setting may be completely different from the next guy, but having the adapter options make it versatile and help you fine tune in a way a static hosel just can't do.
- Putter was sent to you Red A1 (smallest hosel, red painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock)
- Try all 3 A1 settings
- Start with Red A1, progress to White A1 (medium hosel, white painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock), then to Blue A1 (largest hosel, blue painted side up, sitting at 12 o'clock)
- Then experiment with offset to see how it affects performance
- Move to Red B1 (smallest hosel, red painted side down, first click forward of the face)
- Then try White B10 (medium hosel, white painted side down, first click back of the face)
- If you find a setting you really like the looks of, try all 3 hosels in that setting to identify which performs best.
- For example, if you like White B10, then explore Red B10 and Blue B10
On the good news front, UPS has my putter out for delivery today, it just didn't get scanned somewhere in CO before showing up here yesterday afternoon.
For me, the first self fitting I really liked white A3 and B3 which has a good bit of offset and medium toe hang. After a few days and a couple rounds of golf I still had a few right side misses due to a push. Since I liked the offset look and feel, I tried the A3 and B3 in the red hosel which has more toe hang and should help steer more left to eliminate the push. So far so good. Going to go with Red A3 for a bit to see if I get better results on the course.
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Thanks for sharing the steps process. I personally feel that I would need a fitter to tell me due to so many options which is best suited for me. Saame thought I have for the Cobra FF33 adapter. If I were to buy that club, I would for sure go to a fitter to tell me which setting is the correct one for me.My experience: I had a phone call with Blake and one of the other guys (Ryan) and we talked through the options and which might work best for me. I went in thinking one thing and came out of the call with almost a completely different setup after hearing Blake explain things and make recommendations. (Nothing crazy, but if I had just blindly ordered I would have been in a different shaft and grip.)
I later got an email from Blake with a detailed list of starting point and some nearby settings to try:
So it isn't just blindly fitting yourself. I view it kind of like the Cobra FF33 adapter - nobody is going to use or need all 33 settings, but EVERYONE will find 1-3 settings that work for them and those 1-3 setting may be completely different from the next guy, but having the adapter options make it versatile and help you fine tune in a way a static hosel just can't do.
- Putter was sent to you Red A1 (smallest hosel, red painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock)
- Try all 3 A1 settings
- Start with Red A1, progress to White A1 (medium hosel, white painted side up, sitting at 12 o’clock), then to Blue A1 (largest hosel, blue painted side up, sitting at 12 o'clock)
- Then experiment with offset to see how it affects performance
- Move to Red B1 (smallest hosel, red painted side down, first click forward of the face)
- Then try White B10 (medium hosel, white painted side down, first click back of the face)
- If you find a setting you really like the looks of, try all 3 hosels in that setting to identify which performs best.
- For example, if you like White B10, then explore Red B10 and Blue B10
On the good news front, UPS has my putter out for delivery today, it just didn't get scanned somewhere in CO before showing up here yesterday afternoon.
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@PiratePenguin Oh and congrats on the putter arriving! Looking forward to hear your feedbacks
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I think this pic of the mid mallet proves that this is absolutely the one I would go with. What a spectacular shape!