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Bag Boy Volt Electric Cart

rfdong said:
I haven’t had any issues as my course is pretty flat. My Batcaddy had the single rear wheel and even though it was much heavier and wider it seemed more unstable as well with the single wheel (wheelie). When I went to the mountain version (2 wheels side by side). Seemed more stable when the front wheel would lift. Maybe Bagboy will eventually do something like that or a V split wheel that can be in the same place?

I mention since I believe they are following this thread at least they were….

still love how quiet it is, my Batcaddy was like a harvester going down the fairway comparatively….
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They're definitely following this thread. They are VERY in tune with THP feedback.
 
JB said:
Walked a course with this and here are some thoughts.
Best cup holder I have found for any electric.
No tipping, extremely stable.
ZTF never moved an inch.
Speed is good I liked a number on MotoCaddy and on MGI I always felt like I was between two numbers. I found a happy place with this.

Did I mention the cup holder? Seems simple but it’s good. Less rattle than even the Motocaddy, which was the quieter of my two units.
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Your course must be flat! I love everything about this cart except how stable it is. I play on a course with hills on the front nine and flat on the back. I had to put a 5-pound weight in the bottom of my bag to keep it from tipping over and it still does it from time to time. I have a non-electric bag boy push cart and the back arms are much longer and the front wheel is smaller making it much more stable than the Volt. Also, if you had a seat from the push cart and installed it on the Volt it would be crooked. Like I said I love the cart and get a lot of comments on it. I just wish it was more stable.
 
My battery died today on hole 17. It clearly was fully charged at the beginning of the round. That is twice it has died out of the 8 rounds I have used the Volt. I have to confess that I am disappointed.
 
JB said:
Walked a course with this and here are some thoughts.
Best cup holder I have found for any electric.
No tipping, extremely stable.
ZTF never moved an inch.
Speed is good I liked a number on MotoCaddy and on MGI I always felt like I was between two numbers. I found a happy place with this.

Did I mention the cup holder? Seems simple but it’s good. Less rattle than even the Motocaddy, which was the quieter of my two units.
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The cup holder is excellent.
 
Hadley Hudson said:
Your course must be flat! I love everything about this cart except how stable it is. I play on a course with hills on the front nine and flat on the back. I had to put a 5-pound weight in the bottom of my bag to keep it from tipping over and it still does it from time to time. I have a non-electric bag boy push cart and the back arms are much longer and the front wheel is smaller making it much more stable than the Volt. Also, if you had a seat from the push cart and installed it on the Volt it would be crooked. Like I said I love the cart and get a lot of comments on it. I just wish it was more stable.
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I concur. There is no way that this cart is as stable as my MGI. I have used both enough to be able to say that definitively.
 
Tenputt said:
My battery died today on hole 17. It clearly was fully charged at the beginning of the round. That is twice it has died out of the 8 rounds I have used the Volt. I have to confess that I am disappointed.
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When I first started using the Volt, I had several problems with the battery. The last was when after 2 holes the battery level dropped to one bar. I worked under the assumption it was operator error( I always assume I did something stupid). I charged the battery, checked the voltage, and ran it for about a mile while in my parking structure. No unusual battery drop.The next day I took it out to a practice area and ran it for about 2 miles. Still looked good. Since then (estimate at least 12 rounds played), I have had no issues with the battery.
I would suggest charging the battery, check the voltage ( the label on the battery says the battery should read 29.4 volts but mine has never read more than 28.6). If it dies on you, take a voltage reading. It'll probably be helpful info when you contact customer service.
Just out of curiosity, do you disconnect the charger as soon as it turns green or do you let it sit longer? I tend to leave it charging after the light turns green.
 
Waldo0007 said:
When I first started using the Volt, I had several problems with the battery. The last was when after 2 holes the battery level dropped to one bar. I worked under the assumption it was operator error( I always assume I did something stupid). I charged the battery, checked the voltage, and ran it for about a mile while in my parking structure. No unusual battery drop.The next day I took it out to a practice area and ran it for about 2 miles. Still looked good. Since then (estimate at least 12 rounds played), I have had no issues with the battery.
I would suggest charging the battery, check the voltage ( the label on the battery says the battery should read 29.4 volts but mine has never read more than 28.6). If it dies on you, take a voltage reading. It'll probably be helpful info when you contact customer service.
Just out of curiosity, do you disconnect the charger as soon as it turns green or do you let it sit longer? I tend to leave it charging after the light turns green.
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My pattern has been to plug it into the charger the night before I am going to play golf. In the morning, I unplug it when it get up, so there is plenty of time for it to get a full charge.
 
Waldo0007 said:
When I first started using the Volt, I had several problems with the battery. The last was when after 2 holes the battery level dropped to one bar. I worked under the assumption it was operator error( I always assume I did something stupid). I charged the battery, checked the voltage, and ran it for about a mile while in my parking structure. No unusual battery drop.The next day I took it out to a practice area and ran it for about 2 miles. Still looked good. Since then (estimate at least 12 rounds played), I have had no issues with the battery.
I would suggest charging the battery, check the voltage ( the label on the battery says the battery should read 29.4 volts but mine has never read more than 28.6). If it dies on you, take a voltage reading. It'll probably be helpful info when you contact customer service.
Just out of curiosity, do you disconnect the charger as soon as it turns green or do you let it sit longer? I tend to leave it charging after the light turns green.
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I do not closely watch when charger light turns green, but do not leave it on the charger full time. I agree battery voltage is 28.6 when fully charged. I have been fortunate - no battery issues after 120+ miles. Never less than 2 bars on battery at end of round. Interestingly, the console meter always shows full bars. The Volt excels at being a light weight, easy to fold, good storage and compact remote control cart. Stability is on the lower end of the scale compared to my previous MGI NAVIGATOR AT.
 
Tenputt said:
My pattern has been to plug it into the charger the night before I am going to play golf. In the morning, I unplug it when it get up, so there is plenty of time for it to get a full charge.
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Your reply triggered something in my brain. Check out page 22 of the Users Manual. In essence it says to charge your battery as soon as possible after each use. Might make a difference ...
If I have a long break (two days or more) between rounds, I'll plug it in a few hours before. Good luck ...
 
Waldo0007 said:
Your reply triggered something in my brain. Check out page 22 of the Users Manual. In essence it says to charge your battery as soon as possible after each use. Might make a difference ...
If I have a long break (two days or more) between rounds, I'll plug it in a few hours before. Good luck ...
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FYI, I do put my battery on the charger within 24 hours of using it. I seem to remember the manual says that?
 
Waldo0007 said:
When I first started using the Volt, I had several problems with the battery. The last was when after 2 holes the battery level dropped to one bar. I worked under the assumption it was operator error( I always assume I did something stupid). I charged the battery, checked the voltage, and ran it for about a mile while in my parking structure. No unusual battery drop.The next day I took it out to a practice area and ran it for about 2 miles. Still looked good. Since then (estimate at least 12 rounds played), I have had no issues with the battery.
I would suggest charging the battery, check the voltage ( the label on the battery says the battery should read 29.4 volts but mine has never read more than 28.6). If it dies on you, take a voltage reading. It'll probably be helpful info when you contact customer service.
Just out of curiosity, do you disconnect the charger as soon as it turns green or do you let it sit longer? I tend to leave it charging after the light turns green.
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I charge my battery as soon as I get home. Later that night I pull it off and throw it into my car. Now I won't forget it! When mine went back for service I talked to him about battery life. He claimed he cleaned a coating off the battery connections and told me to put on some diolube. I haven't yet but I think I onlyb8sed the cart 2 tines so far.
As for weight I have thrown in an 8 lb weight in my ball pocket in front lower area of bag. It really made no difference as far as tracking up hills. Cart still falls left or rightbto matchbterrain and once it moves thatbway it's to hard to correct unless you have a hand on it. It's the biggest disappointment with the cart. I plan on melting some lead down and making a weight that fits on front wheel spindle but nit sue how I'm doing it yet. I thinknthe cart has 2 issues here. The weight transfer is not raked to the front enough and the motor drives don't have enough torque. It also should have tear tires that are aboutb1-1.5 inches wider to get better traction.
Hope someone from Bag Boy is reading this as we all have invested $1500 or more with accessories into their pockets in trust we would get a great product!
Rod
 
My home course has sold 8 of them so far this year, so I'm waiting to start hearing feedback from the members about them.
We don't have a crazy hilly course, but there are a bunch of rough spots that could easily tip them over. And 3 holes that have good uphill slopes, 1 being number 17......so if your battery is getting weak it will show for sure.
 
rod7515 said:
I charge my battery as soon as I get home. Later that night I pull it off and throw it into my car. Now I won't forget it! When mine went back for service I talked to him about battery life. He claimed he cleaned a coating off the battery connections and told me to put on some diolube. I haven't yet but I think I onlyb8sed the cart 2 tines so far.
As for weight I have thrown in an 8 lb weight in my ball pocket in front lower area of bag. It really made no difference as far as tracking up hills. Cart still falls left or rightbto matchbterrain and once it moves thatbway it's to hard to correct unless you have a hand on it. It's the biggest disappointment with the cart. I plan on melting some lead down and making a weight that fits on front wheel spindle but nit sue how I'm doing it yet. I thinknthe cart has 2 issues here. The weight transfer is not raked to the front enough and the motor drives don't have enough torque. It also should have tear tires that are aboutb1-1.5 inches wider to get better traction.
Hope someone from Bag Boy is reading this as we all have invested $1500 or more with accessories into their pockets in trust we would get a great product!
Rod
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The fact is, the cart is just too narrow. Wheel base needs to be widened by at least 4 inches. I'm willing to sacrifice weight and folded up size. It will be interesting to see what Version 2 will look like...
 
Waldo0007 said:
The fact is, the cart is just too narrow. Wheel base needs to be widened by at least 4 inches. I'm willing to sacrifice weight and folded up size. It will be interesting to see what Version 2 will look like...
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Hopefully they offer us a special deal on upgrading since we were brave enough to try them out for them!
 
Waldo0007 said:
The fact is, the cart is just too narrow. Wheel base needs to be widened by at least 4 inches. I'm willing to sacrifice weight and folded up size. It will be interesting to see what Version 2 will look like...
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Yet the MGI NAVIGATOR AT wheelbase is much narrower but more stable. Maybe the wider tires and more powerful motors make the difference. And heavier weight.
 
tucsondivots said:
Yet the MGI NAVIGATOR AT wheelbase is much narrower but more stable. Maybe the wider tires and more powerful motors make the difference. And heavier weight.
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I've only seen pictures of the MGI Navigator AT and it does look it would be more stable than the Volt.
It appears to me it sits way lower than the Volt but from what I've been able to research, is narrower by ~4 inches! I measured the Volt and it measures ~27 inches which includes the tires. website for MGI says open dimensions are 46" x 23" x 41". I assume the 23" is the width but doesn't say if this includes the tires. It's about 9 pounds heavier and has 2 front swivel wheels which probably adds to its stability. Wish I had access to an AT so I could compare dimensions and see what makes it so stable ...
 
Waldo0007 said:
IMG_0370.jpegI've only seen pictures of the MGI Navigator AT and it does look it would be more stable than the Volt.
It appears to me it sits way lower than the Volt but from what I've been able to research, is narrower by ~4 inches! I measured the Volt and it measures ~27 inches which includes the tires. website for MGI says open dimensions are 46" x 23" x 41". I assume the 23" is the width but doesn't say if this includes the tires. It's about 9 pounds heavier and has 2 front swivel wheels which probably adds to its stability. Wish I had access to an AT so I could compare dimensions and see what makes it so stable ...
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My whole foursome had MGI NAVIGATORS. 2 were regular and 2 AT (AT has independent rotating front wheels and more powerful battery). I had 1700+ miles / 300+ rounds on my AT before I bought the Volt. The MGI NAVs battery placement is on the back - not ideal, but it was much more stable than the Volt. I bought the Volt for the compact folded up size and less weight. On those two points it excels.
 
I switched up bags this week to a BagBoy Revolver, which moved the center of gravity lower and more forward compared to the ZTF which is very light especially on the bottom. the Volt played extremely well with this bag on board with a noticeable reduction in wheelies. I'm now at 60 miles on the Volt.



Adding even this small amount of weight seems to make a big difference. With this larger bag comes more storage space and I think I'll add another pound of weight in the bottom of one of the front pockets. The impact on battery life was that I finished the round at 2 bars instead of my previous usual 3 bars.

And since it's a BagBoy bag, the TopLok still works like a charm.
 
lambeau said:
I switched up bags this week to a BagBoy Revolver, which moved the center of gravity lower and more forward compared to the ZTF which is very light especially on the bottom. the Volt played extremely well with this bag on board with a noticeable reduction in wheelies. I'm now at 60 miles on the Volt.



Adding even this small amount of weight seems to make a big difference. With this larger bag comes more storage space and I think I'll add another pound of weight in the bottom of one of the front pockets. The impact on battery life was that I finished the round at 2 bars instead of my previous usual 3 bars.

And since it's a BagBoy bag, the TopLok still works like a charm.
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For some reason that video made me want one even more, which I didn't think was possible.
 
lambeau said:
I switched up bags this week to a BagBoy Revolver, which moved the center of gravity lower and more forward compared to the ZTF which is very light especially on the bottom. the Volt played extremely well with this bag on board with a noticeable reduction in wheelies. I'm now at 60 miles on the Volt.



Adding even this small amount of weight seems to make a big difference. With this larger bag comes more storage space and I think I'll add another pound of weight in the bottom of one of the front pockets. The impact on battery life was that I finished the round at 2 bars instead of my previous usual 3 bars.

And since it's a BagBoy bag, the TopLok still works like a charm.
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I have the revolver as well. Still pondering getting one of these once I can find one in Canada.
 
Made some weight changes/shifts to my cart/bag . After two rounds it seems to have made a noticeable difference. On Wed., I strapped on 3 lb. wrist weights to the cart (one on each side) as near to the rear wheels as possible to lower the CG. I also have a 5 lb ankle weight in the front pocket of my bag.

The 5 lb. weight is to minimize popping wheelies when going uphill. Works fine but when going uphill and the front end starts going sideways, there's too much weight for the motor to overcome.
The 3 lb weights seemed to do an excellent job of lowering the CG. Normally during the course of a round, I would hit a bump or run into a depression which would rock the cart and lift one of the rear wheels. Did not happen during this round. Going over rough terrain seemed smoother.

Today, I attached the 3 lb. weights but removed the front 5 lb. weight. Overall stability was noticeably better. Removing the 5 lb. weight actually improved the overall handling. No wheelies going uphill and going sideways uphill the drift downward wasn't as severe and in some instances, the gyro was able to correct it.

Next week Monday, I'm going to start off with 1 lb. weights on each wheel. Wednesday, 2 lb. weights and see which,if any, configuration is better.

Battery life didn't seem to be affected significantly as I still had 2 bars left at the end of today's round.
 
The fact that so many posters are writing about things they are doing to jimmy rig the cart is speaking very loudly as to the functionality of the design. It shouldn’t be necessary to have to load a golf bag with weights, take bike tire treads and glue them onto the tires, attach buttons to the remote, etc.
 
Tenputt said:
The fact that so many posters are writing about things they are doing to jimmy rig the cart is speaking very loudly as to the functionality of the design. It shouldn’t be necessary to have to load a golf bag with weights, take bike tire treads and glue them onto the tires, attach buttons to the remote, etc.
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I can't help it. It's in my blood ... :)
 
Tenputt said:
The fact that so many posters are writing about things they are doing to jimmy rig the cart is speaking very loudly as to the functionality of the design. It shouldn’t be necessary to have to load a golf bag with weights, take bike tire treads and glue them onto the tires, attach buttons to the remote, etc.
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I have to agree. Adding weight negates one of the key differentiators of the Volt - lightweight. I made the remote control modification of adding bumpers to the buttons. Made the remote usable without having to look at remote to engage buttons. With the modifications described, the MGI NAVIGATOR or Motocaddy M7 seem a better choice for stability.
 
As much as I love this cart it frustrates the hell out of me that it fails in the fields it does. It is so close to a great cart and yet the short comings are so disappointing. The console speed control is horrible. The going up slopes and the front wheel popping up should have been address along with the cart falling left or right once the cart front wheel comes up off the ground all should have been addressed before the cart was released to us the paying customer. But what I consider the worst feature is the locking of either back wheel in order to turn the cart. This allows the cart to tip going down slopes or side hills. It doesn’t even come close to allowing a side slope turn first thing in the morning when the grass is wet or dew is on grass. When going up hill and the wheel goes up the cart starts falling to one side or the other and you attempted to correct it by hitting the remote you lose speed and now the cart wants to pop up every time you push forward speed on the remote. The only real way of correction is to take hold of the handle. There is no way, let me say that again, there is no way they didn’t experience this during the testing of these carts or else they only tested on flat land. I don’t want to be to negative on this cart because it has a bunch of fantastic features that make it a very nice cart. But where do we go from here? I’m not even sure bag boy could do an update if they did any changes to improve the cart anyway. I mean think about it, they didn’t have a registration on the cart when we bought them so they really don’t have a way to even contact us.
Well enough from me for a while. My cart has worked good the 2 rounds I’ve used it since getting it back from fixing the controller. And if I walk beside the cart and hold the handle the cart performs good. I guess I’m somewhat happy. Lol
Rod
 
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