Callaway Apex Performance Series Irons – Ai200, Ai300 and Ti Fusion
See my comment right above this. I'm all for performance over aesthetics. I think if it's coming off in an odd way instead of wearing like my Cobra FTBs did then I can understand the complaints at any price point. It seems like the finish is just not adhering well. That being said, I'd be all in on a raw finish that rusted up and would just embrace it
Good deal - on the shots AND getting us back on track.
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In the norms of resale, holding value is a relative concept. I'm fairly realistic. But I will be curious to see how people do with resale or trade-in. As an example, will Callaway keep a similar value percentage for trade in on the TiF, or will they ding the trade in value because of their finish faux pas? That will be interesting to follow. This also makes me think of simply waiting for someone to move on from a set … The e-golfers like to move through clubs.
If I knew going in, that I was paying a higher price, but I was getting game changing equipment that would instantly wear, I would be ok with it.
Hey, you gotta pay more for these clubs that will change your game. I'm in. But, they are going to wear like crap. Dont care, make me a better golfer.
I think for most it's the unexpectedness. Which is what is great about forum reviews. Share the good, the bad, and the ugly. What we have seen so far with the TiF irons, is that they absolutely perform. However, the downside is a finish that wears.
Would people be happier with a set of irons that absolutely sucked, didnt perform, but hey, they look phenomenal?!
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The Cobra FTB were done by a completely different process and other materials are involved so not comparing apples to apples
So basically price is the issue here? Isn't the price based on materials in this case titanium more so than the finish? Or is it the fact that the wear wasn't mentioned early on?
I think it's the unexpected wear happening so fast.
Absolutely - but the finish is part of the deal, albeit a smaller part. People don't immediately factor in that aspect (materials) vice finish, they see the finish, before they ever try the club.
I think in major hindsight Callaway should have either ONLY put the finish on the face of the club or not put it on at all.
I think that having the finish flake off as some are seeing can be a tough pill to swallow at a premium price point for many. I agree that the price is for all the expensive materials and not just the finish but if they get ugly quick, I know that will upset many. For a premium product at a higher price point the hope of many is that they'll look good and perform good for a long time. For me, performance is most important but I'll be honest in that if the wear is odd it would factor in to my decision in weather to buy a set at that price. An odd wearing club could look really funky over time.
That is epic.
Nope. You would be lethal game a set of Ai200.
Great shots!!!
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I am looking forward to seeing these and you game them in person soon. Initial impressions say they will be very good for you!Initial thoughts on the first time in the wild with the Apex Ti Fusion.
Looks: These look good in the sunlight. Really good! Seeing them in the bag does make me think “oh those are special.” My playing partners both said “those look bad ass.”
At address, they look great to my eye. Not only does the black seem to slim down the top line, but it also seems to hide the little bit of offset. That being said, they don’t look too small. I honestly believe I would have felt as comfortable looking down at these when I was a 16 handicap as I do now.
Performance: Yesterday when I got some time in the sim, I made sure to hit my Callaway Chrome Tour. Today in the open, it sounded even better than it did indoors. That surprised me a little bit. I do seem to swing a little worse indoors on a sim so that could be part of it.
The fun part of today was trying figure out distances. Based on what I saw yesterday, I was going to be about a half club shorter with the Apex Ti Fusion. Well that was wrong. I was playing for the center of greens and flew several today. Based on what I saw on course, I actually picked up about a half club or more.
Now I know you might say “well what about elevation and wind?” That’s where I was really shocked. I flew a green with a 6i coming into one hole that was playing into a slightly hurting wind. Next hole I had the same distance (184 yards) into the wind. I clubbed down to the 7i and put it about 25ft past the hole. I did the same thing two holes later from about 182.
I don’t hit towering Rory like irons. I’m a mid flight, low spin normally. I definitely saw a higher ball flight with the Apex Ti Fusion. Those two 7 irons were what I have wanted to see from an iron. The added distance combined with some added height was a welcome sight.
Overall a very good first impression. I’m going to get out to my normal course later this week where I’m very comfortable and familiar. This should get me a much better idea on changes I’m seeing.
I would be strong considering them for myself…. But I get to buy an A/C for my car instead.
Buying golf clubs is a lot more fun.I would be strong considering them for myself…. But I get to buy an A/C for my car instead.
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One, I kinda knew didn't have a chance to go IN. The other, the cup was behind a little hit to an elevated green and I 100% thought it was in.
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Congrats on the pars
Congrats on the pars
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Nah, just two of six bridies today.Congrats on the pars
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first off...how dare you.Nah, just two of six bridies today.
2nd...can you save some of those birdies for the rest of us please?
It does suck that this has become the overwhelming narrative of these heads. When I hit them I loved everything about it, feel was exceptional, ballflight was nice, and they are just forgiving enough, but that is being overshadowed and maybe that's fair for an very premium iron with a price tag to match.
I think it's going to be a tough hurdle to get over.
It sure is. But sitting in rush hour traffic with no AC and 108F actually sucks.
I’d imagine it takes a pretty hard steel to force a bond with titanium. They’d probably look pretty good just raw. Gun bluing raw steel is nothing and shockingly lasts longer than you’d think. Titanium is a different beast.
No argument here.
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