Cleveland & Never Compromise Demo Day Reviews
jshel
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This is very interesting. I have the 20.5 (3H) is the Launcher DST line. I have found that club to be fantastic because who doesn't like high, straight and pretty long. My thoughts were to pick up the 4H once the prices came down over the winter.
Now I have to reconsider that and wait to try the Mashie.
Now I have to reconsider that and wait to try the Mashie.
Id at least wait for the Mashie and if it doesnt live up to the hype then grab a DST on the cheap. But the Mashie was the real deal with a great shaft in it.
Puttin4Bird
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I liked the Mashie quite a bit but the new drivers and CG16 irons were what really impressed me most about Cleveland's lineup.
I didnt get a good feel for the drivers but I agree about the CG16 irons, they were sweet.
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The CG16's just seemed more forgiving than my BP's. I like the look of my clubs a little better but that doesnt translate to better scores. I really hope I can get in on the upgrade if its eligble haha.
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Mashie.....that is all.
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Just spent some time on the range with GG and some of the new Cleveland stuff.
Superlite Drivers
Took the 270, 290, 310 drivers out, all were 9.5*
Something important to note is that I think many thought the only difference between these drivers is shaft weight. That is not the case, as the grip is different on them weighing anywhere from 26g to 46g.
I liked all of them quite a bit. I started with my SuperTri to get a base line on how I was swinging today and then went 310, 290, and finally 270. It WILL take a few swings to get used to the lighter weight. No question about it. But once you get the handle (for me about 3-5 swings), the weight does not seem to come into play.
Each one lighter than the last, it really forces you to keep a smooth tempo, which is something that I love. Once that tempo is ironed out and smooth, the driver weight and shaft technology take over. I am QUICKLY falling in love with this line. Nice smooth swings with each one was producing drives that I just dont normally see without really having to go after it.
They offer very traditional looks with nice ping of a sound. Not loud, not dead, just a nice ping at impact.
Mashie Hybrids
By the time some read this thread they are going to think that this is a miracle club. Its not, but man it is probably the best hybrid I have ever hit. The last time I picked up a hybrid and was this in awe was the Nickent 4DX, which I thought was the best on the market by a pretty big margin at the time. I wont get into comparing these to those 4DX because frankly there is no comparison.
The head is extremely retro in looks and finish. The hybrid is traditional looking (as much as you can say that about a hybrid) in that it is more hybrid looking than FW wood looking. The sole features two "glide rails" that look intriguing and I am sure help out of the thicker stuff.
I know others have said it before in this thread, but the one thing that pops into my mind when testing these is the word SMOOTH. Effortless swings put a beautiful straight ball with a nice penetrating ball flight and NO ballooning whatsoever. The Miyazaki shaft is incredible throughout the swing and completes a perfect marriage between club head and the swing.
I think the hybrid shaft has been overlooked by many for quite some time in the consumer market and this may change that DRAMATICALLY. I have been using this same Miyazaki C. Kua shaft in my DST Launcher hybrid for a couple of months now as well as having it in a few other hybrids and it is a huge plus in all.
I found the distance to be similar to my previous hybrids (maybe 3-5 yards difference), but the key was shot dispersion for me and the performance that I was getting.
Forgiveness is what you want in a hybrid. Missing off the toe and the heel produce nice straight balls that lose very little distance in most cases. Catching the ball a groove or two thick or thin also produced no noticeable issues.
The sound is a plush impact sound that is neither high pitched or dead and muted. Just perfect for my ears and that translates rather well to the feel which is the best I have ever used in the hybrid category. Obviously a lot of that has to do with the shaft.
Wrap Up
Still early for final conclusions on these but I think Cleveland has some winners on their hands. Im looking forward to bringing these to the range this week and having some more people try them out. I will keep updating my findings in this thread.
Superlite Drivers
Took the 270, 290, 310 drivers out, all were 9.5*
Something important to note is that I think many thought the only difference between these drivers is shaft weight. That is not the case, as the grip is different on them weighing anywhere from 26g to 46g.
I liked all of them quite a bit. I started with my SuperTri to get a base line on how I was swinging today and then went 310, 290, and finally 270. It WILL take a few swings to get used to the lighter weight. No question about it. But once you get the handle (for me about 3-5 swings), the weight does not seem to come into play.
Each one lighter than the last, it really forces you to keep a smooth tempo, which is something that I love. Once that tempo is ironed out and smooth, the driver weight and shaft technology take over. I am QUICKLY falling in love with this line. Nice smooth swings with each one was producing drives that I just dont normally see without really having to go after it.
They offer very traditional looks with nice ping of a sound. Not loud, not dead, just a nice ping at impact.
Mashie Hybrids
By the time some read this thread they are going to think that this is a miracle club. Its not, but man it is probably the best hybrid I have ever hit. The last time I picked up a hybrid and was this in awe was the Nickent 4DX, which I thought was the best on the market by a pretty big margin at the time. I wont get into comparing these to those 4DX because frankly there is no comparison.
The head is extremely retro in looks and finish. The hybrid is traditional looking (as much as you can say that about a hybrid) in that it is more hybrid looking than FW wood looking. The sole features two "glide rails" that look intriguing and I am sure help out of the thicker stuff.
I know others have said it before in this thread, but the one thing that pops into my mind when testing these is the word SMOOTH. Effortless swings put a beautiful straight ball with a nice penetrating ball flight and NO ballooning whatsoever. The Miyazaki shaft is incredible throughout the swing and completes a perfect marriage between club head and the swing.
I think the hybrid shaft has been overlooked by many for quite some time in the consumer market and this may change that DRAMATICALLY. I have been using this same Miyazaki C. Kua shaft in my DST Launcher hybrid for a couple of months now as well as having it in a few other hybrids and it is a huge plus in all.
I found the distance to be similar to my previous hybrids (maybe 3-5 yards difference), but the key was shot dispersion for me and the performance that I was getting.
Forgiveness is what you want in a hybrid. Missing off the toe and the heel produce nice straight balls that lose very little distance in most cases. Catching the ball a groove or two thick or thin also produced no noticeable issues.
The sound is a plush impact sound that is neither high pitched or dead and muted. Just perfect for my ears and that translates rather well to the feel which is the best I have ever used in the hybrid category. Obviously a lot of that has to do with the shaft.
Wrap Up
Still early for final conclusions on these but I think Cleveland has some winners on their hands. Im looking forward to bringing these to the range this week and having some more people try them out. I will keep updating my findings in this thread.
TC
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excellent write up. i must admit, this is one of those times when i truly wish i was not left handed. your thoughts echo so many thoughts from so many others at the demo day. i don't think i've ever been so interested in hitting a club as much as i am looking forward to hitting the mashie. it sounds as though it's a marvelous combination of looks, performance, feel and sound. all things that make a club a winner!
have you been hitting the cg16's irons as well?
have you been hitting the cg16's irons as well?
coyna1
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The exact number is in the original C Kua thread. I have the 59 S hybrid shaft in my DST Launcher hybrid.
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I will be taking out the wedges and irons tomorrow I believe to do some more testing with as well.
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I have not, but you can see my lengthy range session above with the Mashie.
shewythemuss
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JB how does the new superlight 270 compare with the original DST.I had a swing with it the other day and am liking light a lot,not sure if worth getting one if the new range is far superior though. May even oust the trusty rapture!
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Completely different drivers if you ask me. The high end Miyazaki C. Kua coming stock in the new driver makes it an incredible offering.
The Mashie really does sound like a bona fide home run, the hype on this club here since The Outing is just crazy!
I've been really really happy with all my recently acquired clubs, with the 3i DST Launcher being one of them, but given everyone's love for the Mashie, methinks I gotta grab one when it's released!
I've been really really happy with all my recently acquired clubs, with the 3i DST Launcher being one of them, but given everyone's love for the Mashie, methinks I gotta grab one when it's released!
tacotruck
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The Cleveland Launcher, HiBore XLS, and DST Hybrids have all been available in a 1-hybrid (15.5* or 16*). Will the Mashie also be available in a 1-hybrid?
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We would assume so. We did not have one at the demo day, but that does not mean it wont be out.
tacotruck
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Cool. Can't wait to try the Mashie! Btw, I saw on the Adams thread that there was a "secret," yet to be released hybrid (not the v3) that people were raving about at the THP demo day. How do the Mashie and the upcoming secret Adams hybrid compare?
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Im not sure what you mean. Can you put the link? I dont recall a secret Adams Hybrid.
tacotruck
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OEM Kevin wrote in the "Adams Demo Day THP Outing Reviews" thread:
"I agree with JB, I think the V3 was better then the Super Hybrid. It was just really easy to hit well. Where the Super Hyrbid is less forgiving on mishits the V3 is very forgiving and seems to just get up in the air with ease. I think the face seemed very lively too, ball popped off of it. And the yet to be released secret hybrid was by far better then both of the Adams."
I guess I read this and assumed that OEM Kevin was referring to a yet to be released hybrid from Adams but after reading it again, I guess he could have been referring to any company's new hybrid release. Can you shed any light on the hybrid OEM Kevin was referring to? Was it the Mashie?
"I agree with JB, I think the V3 was better then the Super Hybrid. It was just really easy to hit well. Where the Super Hyrbid is less forgiving on mishits the V3 is very forgiving and seems to just get up in the air with ease. I think the face seemed very lively too, ball popped off of it. And the yet to be released secret hybrid was by far better then both of the Adams."
I guess I read this and assumed that OEM Kevin was referring to a yet to be released hybrid from Adams but after reading it again, I guess he could have been referring to any company's new hybrid release. Can you shed any light on the hybrid OEM Kevin was referring to? Was it the Mashie?
TC
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it was the mashie, but i could see where your thinking was coming from.
Yes I was referring to the Mashie, sorry to be confusing. I gamed the V3 during the outing because the Mashie was demo day only and could not be taken out on the course. But the Mashie was by far my favorite hybrid and club at the demo day.