Corona Virus/COVID19: Local Impact

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How often does your News Hour lead with "we start off with some breaking news"

uhhhhh unless you were handed a sheet of info 2 minutes before air, it's not breaking news
Don’t know what your point is, but to leave the same red banner with same number for days is disingenuous. You are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
 
Numbers here in Michigan were very good again today and that's with a ton of testing and a lot of people having been out and about the last few weeks.
 
Don’t know what your point is, but to leave the same red banner with same number for days is disingenuous. You are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
I wasn't arguing, I was making the same observation as you. :ROFLMAO:

Unless you want to argue about arguing:greenalien:
 
Maybe Costa Rica doesn't pay attention to American MSM. To their benefit. :ROFLMAO:

I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

It can cause rapid heart beat #12 ... as well as

Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
  1. blurred vision or other vision changes
  2. chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
  3. cough or hoarseness
  4. dark urine
  5. decreased urination
  6. defective color vision
  7. diarrhea
  8. difficulty breathing
  9. difficulty seeing at night
  10. dizziness or fainting
  11. fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
  12. feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
  13. feeling that others can hear your thoughts
  14. feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
  15. fever with or without chills
  16. general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  17. headache
  18. inability to move the eyes
  19. increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
  20. joint or muscle pain
  21. large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
  22. loss of hearing
  23. lower back or side pain
  24. noisy breathing
  25. painful or difficult urination
  26. red irritated eyes
  27. red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  28. severe mood or mental changes
  29. sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
  30. sticking out of the tongue
  31. stomach pain
  32. swelling of the feet or lower legs
  33. swollen or painful glands
  34. trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
  35. uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
  36. unusual behavior
  37. unusual bleeding or bruising
  38. unusual facial expressions
  39. unusual tiredness or weakness
  40. yellow eyes or skin
 
I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

It can cause rapid heart beat #12 ... as well as

Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
  1. blurred vision or other vision changes
  2. chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
  3. cough or hoarseness
  4. dark urine
  5. decreased urination
  6. defective color vision
  7. diarrhea
  8. difficulty breathing
  9. difficulty seeing at night
  10. dizziness or fainting
  11. fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
  12. feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
  13. feeling that others can hear your thoughts
  14. feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
  15. fever with or without chills
  16. general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  17. headache
  18. inability to move the eyes
  19. increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
  20. joint or muscle pain
  21. large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
  22. loss of hearing
  23. lower back or side pain
  24. noisy breathing
  25. painful or difficult urination
  26. red irritated eyes
  27. red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  28. severe mood or mental changes
  29. sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
  30. sticking out of the tongue
  31. stomach pain
  32. swelling of the feet or lower legs
  33. swollen or painful glands
  34. trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
  35. uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
  36. unusual behavior
  37. unusual bleeding or bruising
  38. unusual facial expressions
  39. unusual tiredness or weakness
  40. yellow eyes or skin
That sounds exactly like the side effects they rattle off on every TV commercial about every biologic that anybody is taking. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

It can cause rapid heart beat #12 ... as well as

Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
  1. blurred vision or other vision changes
  2. chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
  3. cough or hoarseness
  4. dark urine
  5. decreased urination
  6. defective color vision
  7. diarrhea
  8. difficulty breathing
  9. difficulty seeing at night
  10. dizziness or fainting
  11. fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
  12. feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
  13. feeling that others can hear your thoughts
  14. feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
  15. fever with or without chills
  16. general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  17. headache
  18. inability to move the eyes
  19. increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
  20. joint or muscle pain
  21. large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
  22. loss of hearing
  23. lower back or side pain
  24. noisy breathing
  25. painful or difficult urination
  26. red irritated eyes
  27. red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  28. severe mood or mental changes
  29. sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
  30. sticking out of the tongue
  31. stomach pain
  32. swelling of the feet or lower legs
  33. swollen or painful glands
  34. trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
  35. uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
  36. unusual behavior
  37. unusual bleeding or bruising
  38. unusual facial expressions
  39. unusual tiredness or weakness
  40. yellow eyes or skin
So many medicines have side effects worse than the disease.
 
I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

It can cause rapid heart beat #12 ... as well as

Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
  1. blurred vision or other vision changes
  2. chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
  3. cough or hoarseness
  4. dark urine
  5. decreased urination
  6. defective color vision
  7. diarrhea
  8. difficulty breathing
  9. difficulty seeing at night
  10. dizziness or fainting
  11. fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
  12. feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
  13. feeling that others can hear your thoughts
  14. feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
  15. fever with or without chills
  16. general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  17. headache
  18. inability to move the eyes
  19. increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
  20. joint or muscle pain
  21. large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
  22. loss of hearing
  23. lower back or side pain
  24. noisy breathing
  25. painful or difficult urination
  26. red irritated eyes
  27. red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  28. severe mood or mental changes
  29. sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
  30. sticking out of the tongue
  31. stomach pain
  32. swelling of the feet or lower legs
  33. swollen or painful glands
  34. trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
  35. uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
  36. unusual behavior
  37. unusual bleeding or bruising
  38. unusual facial expressions
  39. unusual tiredness or weakness
  40. yellow eyes or skin

My wife has taken Hydroxychloroquine for years and none of these things have happened ⬆. Of course, your mileage may vary.

There are over 5 million active prescriptions yearly for Hydroxychloroquine in the US, mostly to Lupus or other autoimmune disease patients.

The Prednisone she takes has way worse side effects.
 

“Used in the world for decades in the treatment of malaria, a month ago, the Caja Costarricense de Seguro Social (CCSS) decided to apply hydroxychloroquine to patients infected with the new coronavirus until a vaccine is available.”

This from an article on 4/19, maybe that’s what they did that Panama didn’t?

I'm a little confused by this. The average of those that received it is 39 y/o and only 10% where over 60. So, mostly healthy people that had a high chance of recovering anyways? Also, only 37% of people who received treatment had confirmed cases of Covid19.

Also, from the same article

"“We still cannot be sure because there is no scientific evidence. However, in the very particular case of Costa Rica, this could be one of the elements that is influencing the good results of the country so far,” added Arguedas".

So, it could be, but they don't know?


"In this large multinational real-world analysis, we did not observe any benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine (when used alone or in combination with a macrolide) on in-hospital outcomes, when initiated early after diagnosis of COVID-19. Each of the drug regimens of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with a macrolide was associated with an increased hazard for clinically significant occurrence of ventricular arrhythmias and increased risk of in-hospital death with COVID-19."
 
I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

12.feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
13.feeling that others can hear your thoughts
14.feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there

Hmmmmm...I have these symptoms all of the time.
 
My wife has taken Hydroxychloroquine for years and none of these things have happened ⬆. Of course, your mileage may vary.

There are over 5 million active prescriptions yearly for Hydroxychloroquine in the US, mostly to Lupus or other autoimmune disease patients.

The Prednisone she takes has way worse side effects.

Understood, it's just that I had not looked at the potential side effects - they all talk about rapid heart rate, so I looked up the Mayo Clinic possibilities. Now I understand why you need a prescription. I know people who know people who know people who have hydroxy without a prescription who got it in April. There is a duo - this and some other medication is used as a preventative; to each his own.

I take something to keep the heart rate down, so I would avoid hydroxychloroquine.
 
I'm a little confused by this. The average of those that received it is 39 y/o and only 10% where over 60. So, mostly healthy people that had a high chance of recovering anyways? Also, only 37% of people who received treatment had confirmed cases of Covid19.

Also, from the same article

"“We still cannot be sure because there is no scientific evidence. However, in the very particular case of Costa Rica, this could be one of the elements that is influencing the good results of the country so far,” added Arguedas".

So, it could be, but they don't know?


"In this large multinational real-world analysis, we did not observe any benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine (when used alone or in combination with a macrolide) on in-hospital outcomes, when initiated early after diagnosis of COVID-19. Each of the drug regimens of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with a macrolide was associated with an increased hazard for clinically significant occurrence of ventricular arrhythmias and increased risk of in-hospital death with COVID-19."
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Again when looking at this chart... What did Costa Rica do that the others didn’t?
 
Understood, it's just that I had not looked at the potential side effects - they all talk about rapid heart rate, so I looked up the Mayo Clinic possibilities. Now I understand why you need a prescription. I know people who know people who know people who have hydroxy without a prescription who got it in April. There is a duo - this and some other medication is used as a preventative; to each his own.

I take something to keep the heart rate down, so I would avoid hydroxychloroquine.

watch out for advil

  • Abdominal pain
  • acid or sour stomach
  • belching
  • bloating
  • cloudy urine
  • decrease in amount of urine
  • decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability
  • diarrhea
  • difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
  • excess air or gas in stomach or intestines
  • full feeling
  • heartburn
  • indigestion
  • itching skin
  • pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat
  • pale skin
  • passing gas
  • nausea
  • noisy, rattling breathing
  • rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin
  • shortness of breath
  • swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles
  • troubled breathing at rest
  • troubled breathing with exertion
  • unusual bleeding or bruising
  • unusual tiredness or weakness
  • vomiting
  • weight gain
  • Abdominal cramps
  • stomach soreness or discomfort
  • Agitation
  • back, leg, or stomach pains
  • bleeding gums
  • blistering, peeling, loosening of skin
  • blood in urine or stools
  • bloody, black, or tarry stools
  • blurred vision
  • burning feeling in chest or stomach
  • change in vision
  • chest pain
  • chills
  • clay-colored stools
  • coma
  • confusion
  • constipation
  • cough or hoarseness
  • dark urine
  • decreased urine output
  • depression
  • difficulty breathing
  • difficulty swallowing
  • dilated neck veins
  • dizziness
  • dry mouth
  • extreme fatigue
  • fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse
  • fever with or without chills
  • frequent urination
  • general body swelling
  • general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  • hair loss, thinning of hair
  • headache
  • hives or welts
  • hostility
  • impaired vision
  • increased blood pressure
  • increased volume of pale, dilute urine
  • irregular breathing
  • irritability
  • itching
  • joint or muscle pain
  • lab results that show problems with liver
  • lethargy
  • light-colored stools
  • loss of appetite
  • lower back or side pain
  • muscle twitching
  • nosebleeds
  • painful or difficult urination
  • pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back
  • pinpoint red spots on skin
  • puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
  • rash
  • red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  • red, irritated eyes
  • redness of skin
  • seizures
  • severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning
  • severe and continuing nausea
  • sore throat
  • sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips
  • stiff neck or back
  • stomach upset
  • stupor
  • swollen or painful glands
  • tenderness in stomach area
  • thirst
  • tightness in chest
  • unpleasant breath odor
  • upper right abdominal pain
  • vomiting of blood
  • vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds
  • wheezing
  • yellow eyes and skin
 
View attachment 8945824
Again when looking at this chart... What did Costa Rica do that the others didn’t?

Costa Rica banned mass gatherings on 9 March and, on 16 March, declared a state of emergency, under which people were told to work from home, and schools and all non-essential businesses were closed. The country’s borders were subsequently shut on 19 March.
Unlike some other countries in Latin America, Costa Rica has universal healthcare, on which it spends a higher proportion of gross domestic product (GDP) than the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) average. The OECD says “there is much to praise” about a system that delivers higher life expectancy than many other OECD nations.
Easing up
Costa Rica has carried out almost 14,000 coronavirus tests. With the number of new cases falling, the government decided to partially lift the lockdown.
From 1 May, theatres, gyms and exercise centres have been allowed to reopen, but customers must keep two metres apart at all times. Sports venues are only allowed to use a quarter of their seating capacity.
Beauticians and hairdressers are also allowed to resume trading but must only have half as many customers as their salons can accommodate. Even auto workshops are limited in the number of cars they can service, at their capacity.
Reuters reported President Carlos Alvarado as saying: “We have had relative and fragile success, but we cannot let our guard down.”
The borders will remain closed until at least 15 May and restrictions on driving, intended to prevent people from spreading the virus, remain in force. Driving at night is banned and drivers may only drive on certain days if their licence plate ends in a particular number.
Border closures are a blow to the nation’s normally thriving tourism industry, which contributes $1.7 billion to the economy. Overall, the lockdown is forecast to reduce the nation’s GDP by almost 4% this year.

 
watch out for advil

  • Abdominal pain
  • acid or sour stomach
  • belching
  • bloating
  • cloudy urine
  • decrease in amount of urine
  • decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability
  • diarrhea
  • difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
  • excess air or gas in stomach or intestines
  • full feeling
  • heartburn
  • indigestion
  • itching skin
  • pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat
  • pale skin
  • passing gas
  • nausea
  • noisy, rattling breathing
  • rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin
  • shortness of breath
  • swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles
  • troubled breathing at rest
  • troubled breathing with exertion
  • unusual bleeding or bruising
  • unusual tiredness or weakness
  • vomiting
  • weight gain
  • Abdominal cramps
  • stomach soreness or discomfort
  • Agitation
  • back, leg, or stomach pains
  • bleeding gums
  • blistering, peeling, loosening of skin
  • blood in urine or stools
  • bloody, black, or tarry stools
  • blurred vision
  • burning feeling in chest or stomach
  • change in vision
  • chest pain
  • chills
  • clay-colored stools
  • coma
  • confusion
  • constipation
  • cough or hoarseness
  • dark urine
  • decreased urine output
  • depression
  • difficulty breathing
  • difficulty swallowing
  • dilated neck veins
  • dizziness
  • dry mouth
  • extreme fatigue
  • fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse
  • fever with or without chills
  • frequent urination
  • general body swelling
  • general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  • hair loss, thinning of hair
  • headache
  • hives or welts
  • hostility
  • impaired vision
  • increased blood pressure
  • increased volume of pale, dilute urine
  • irregular breathing
  • irritability
  • itching
  • joint or muscle pain
  • lab results that show problems with liver
  • lethargy
  • light-colored stools
  • loss of appetite
  • lower back or side pain
  • muscle twitching
  • nosebleeds
  • painful or difficult urination
  • pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back
  • pinpoint red spots on skin
  • puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
  • rash
  • red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  • red, irritated eyes
  • redness of skin
  • seizures
  • severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning
  • severe and continuing nausea
  • sore throat
  • sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips
  • stiff neck or back
  • stomach upset
  • stupor
  • swollen or painful glands
  • tenderness in stomach area
  • thirst
  • tightness in chest
  • unpleasant breath odor
  • upper right abdominal pain
  • vomiting of blood
  • vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds
  • wheezing
  • yellow eyes and skin
Or Pepto-Bismol:

  • Anxiety
  • any loss of hearing
  • confusion
  • constipation (severe)
  • diarrhea (severe or continuing)
  • difficulty in speaking or slurred speech
  • dizziness or lightheadedness
  • drowsiness (severe)
  • fast or deep breathing
  • headache (severe or continuing)
  • increased sweating
  • increased thirst
  • mental depression
  • muscle spasms (especially of face, neck, and back)
  • muscle weakness
  • nausea or vomiting (severe or continuing)
  • ringing or buzzing in ears (continuing)
  • stomach pain (severe or continuing)
  • trembling
  • uncontrollable flapping movements of the hands (especially in elderly patients) or other uncontrolled body movements
  • vision problems
 
I believe a famous French Doc uses Hydroxychloroquine .... and an antibiotic as preventative. Guess I would not down it carelessly

It can cause rapid heart beat #12 ... as well as

Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
  1. blurred vision or other vision changes
  2. chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
  3. cough or hoarseness
  4. dark urine
  5. decreased urination
  6. defective color vision
  7. diarrhea
  8. difficulty breathing
  9. difficulty seeing at night
  10. dizziness or fainting
  11. fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
  12. feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
  13. feeling that others can hear your thoughts
  14. feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
  15. fever with or without chills
  16. general feeling of tiredness or weakness
  17. headache
  18. inability to move the eyes
  19. increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
  20. joint or muscle pain
  21. large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
  22. loss of hearing
  23. lower back or side pain
  24. noisy breathing
  25. painful or difficult urination
  26. red irritated eyes
  27. red skin lesions, often with a purple center
  28. severe mood or mental changes
  29. sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
  30. sticking out of the tongue
  31. stomach pain
  32. swelling of the feet or lower legs
  33. swollen or painful glands
  34. trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
  35. uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
  36. unusual behavior
  37. unusual bleeding or bruising
  38. unusual facial expressions
  39. unusual tiredness or weakness
  40. yellow eyes or skin
You forgot the most important one: Please don't take Hydroxychloroquine if you're allergic to Hydroxychloroquine. Because we need to tell people that.
 
View attachment 8945824
Again when looking at this chart... What did Costa Rica do that the others didn’t?

I'm not sure, I'm not an expert. I mean, multiple news articles talk about their quick response to lockdown including closing their borders, but not sure that would fit the narrative. Even the article you posted stated that there was no medical evidence that HQC worked. So, I'd assume other factors came into play outside of HQC.

I mean a study in one of the most recognized medical journals, with over 95,000 patients in over 600 seperate hospitals found no conclusive evidence that HQC had any effect on Covid19 in patients.

It's one thing to ask questions and question medical and scientific research, it's another to continuously push an agenda.
 
I'm not sure, I'm not an expert. I mean, multiple news articles talk about their quick response to lockdown including closing their borders, but not sure that would fit the narrative. Even the article you posted stated that there was no medical evidence that HQC worked. So, I'd assume other factors came into play outside of HQC.

I mean a study in one of the most recognized medical journals, with over 95,000 patients in over 600 seperate hospitals found no conclusive evidence that HQC had any effect on Covid19 in patients.

It's one thing to ask questions and question medical and scientific research, it's another to continuously push an agenda.

 
I'm not sure, I'm not an expert. I mean, multiple news articles talk about their quick response to lockdown including closing their borders, but not sure that would fit the narrative. Even the article you posted stated that there was no medical evidence that HQC worked. So, I'd assume other factors came into play outside of HQC.

I mean a study in one of the most recognized medical journals, with over 95,000 patients in over 600 seperate hospitals found no conclusive evidence that HQC had any effect on Covid19 in patients.

It's one thing to ask questions and question medical and scientific research, it's another to continuously push an agenda.

And then there is the placebo effect, which can be strong in certain cases and certain people.
 
Marijuana has none of those side effects. Just saying. Probably works just as well also.

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You forgot the most important one: Please don't take Hydroxychloroquine if you're allergic to Hydroxychloroquine. Because we need to tell people that.

That is my favorite drug warning on commercials.You know they have to say that because someone allergic took it and then sued. It’s mind blowing to me.
 


I'm actually not. We should all be as informed and question one another. If you want to respond with something that supports otherwise, I'll gladly read or listen.
 
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