That's possible, but the Chinese Dr. who eventually died immediately noted the differences between run of the mill pneumonia and a possible SARS type virus, so I assume our specialists are equally smart.
Did many of us already have COVID-19 within the past few months and have recovered?
They gave me a shot for it in November...that was what the doctor told me the shot was for.
I hope I had it back in Jan. got what appeared to be the flu and it lasted for 3 weeks, finally after going to the doctor and getting steriods for my lungs it cleared up in time for me to go to Cigarfest in Feb. (stupid huh) but the wife also had something for about two weeks and it blew though the family.
We think it came from my Daughter who is a Hospital department head and one of her coworker's son returned from "surprise" China just before it all started and everyone in the Department was sick with the same kind of crud. I think it is silly to think it just started in China in Dec. it could well have been going on there for a while before it took off (or not what do I know).
Maybe just a coincidence but we are all hoping it was the C19 and we have some immunity. I had the Flu shot in Nov. but as is often said who knows which flu it targeted.
We think it came from my Daughter who is a Hospital department head and one of her coworker's son returned from "surprise" China just before it all started and everyone in the Department was sick with the same kind of crud. I think it is silly to think it just started in China in Dec. it could well have been going on there for a while before it took off (or not what do I know).
Maybe just a coincidence but we are all hoping it was the C19 and we have some immunity. I had the Flu shot in Nov. but as is often said who knows which flu it targeted.
I learned something today. I have not ever gotten one. Granted, I am still in my mid 30s.
I am almost 65 and had pneumonia twice before.
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Jinxed myself. Played golf yesterday and played like ****. Felt off. Woke up today tried to workout, couldn’t really get through it. Went and hit balls and played a few holes. Topped my first four drives Off the tee. Went home figured I hadn’t been eating enough, ate something, decided to check my temp cause I felt off, 102.2, little headache no other symptoms. Isolated in my room now no more golf for a while.
Just a heads up the only thing I did outside my house was golf. Be vigilant.
Just a heads up the only thing I did outside my house was golf. Be vigilant.
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Add me to the group that thinks this may have run thru people outside of China long before the reports got out...
Back in early December my wife and I came down with severe cases of chest congestion. I was stubborn and stuck it out, assuming it would pass in the normal 3-5 days. She went to the doctor and was told she had bronchitis...which was a shock. She had 2 rounds of steroid shots and had all the symptoms if C-19...fever, congestion and cough, shortness of breath, and lethargy.
As for me, I rarely get sick and as stated above, 3-5 days and I'm good. In this case I wasn't and the most notable differences for me where a severe nagging cough, a shortness of breath if I breathed in deeply, and I hacked up the nastiest crap for a solid 2-3 weeks. I'm talking get up in the morning, stand in the shower and spit all sorts of junk down the drain.
As I started to feel better, I had concerns that maybe my AC ducts were dirty/had mold so I paid to have them cleaned. The guys who came out said they were actually pretty clean...and he made a comment about many people having the same concerns and sickness that I had gone thru...and how business was super busy due to it.
Coincidence, possibly. Not saying I/we had it, but then again no one was looking for it before late Feb/early March.
As someone else mentioned, will be curious how we look at this virus in a couple years down the road. I recall SARS, Swine Flu, and Bird Flu were the boogiemen a couple years back and now they are never mentioned.............
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Back in early December my wife and I came down with severe cases of chest congestion. I was stubborn and stuck it out, assuming it would pass in the normal 3-5 days. She went to the doctor and was told she had bronchitis...which was a shock. She had 2 rounds of steroid shots and had all the symptoms if C-19...fever, congestion and cough, shortness of breath, and lethargy.
As for me, I rarely get sick and as stated above, 3-5 days and I'm good. In this case I wasn't and the most notable differences for me where a severe nagging cough, a shortness of breath if I breathed in deeply, and I hacked up the nastiest crap for a solid 2-3 weeks. I'm talking get up in the morning, stand in the shower and spit all sorts of junk down the drain.
As I started to feel better, I had concerns that maybe my AC ducts were dirty/had mold so I paid to have them cleaned. The guys who came out said they were actually pretty clean...and he made a comment about many people having the same concerns and sickness that I had gone thru...and how business was super busy due to it.
Coincidence, possibly. Not saying I/we had it, but then again no one was looking for it before late Feb/early March.
As someone else mentioned, will be curious how we look at this virus in a couple years down the road. I recall SARS, Swine Flu, and Bird Flu were the boogiemen a couple years back and now they are never mentioned.............
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I think we had it already. First part of January. So many people at Amazon had the cough.
I think a lot of people want to be hopeful that we've already had it and will vote these anecdotal references.
However, since we dont have any way to confirm it at this point, all we can do is wait for the post mortem on this crisis. I really expect a 9/11-esque commission once we are through this.
However, since we dont have any way to confirm it at this point, all we can do is wait for the post mortem on this crisis. I really expect a 9/11-esque commission once we are through this.
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I was sick in Jan. With pneumonia. I didn’t have a chest scan because I’m self employed and that **** is expensive. I already spent $100 on a flu test to find out it was negative. The crazy thing is, I took a z pack and felt better next day. Don’t know if it was covid.... but I’ve never been that sick. EVER. I felt like I was dying with an endless cough.
I am not a doctor and don’t want to come across as Debbie Downer but everything I read aligns with McLovin’s physician’s comments. We all would like to convince ourselves that we had a mild case of Covid-19 before all sh*t broke out in China but the reality is no one was dying of the respiratory failures at the regularity with Covid-19 especially 17 year old healthy teenagers. Face the facts, we all probably had the flu or else this highly contagious virus would have been filling up ICU’s back in January.
We all know the annual flu viruses give us similar symptoms but don’t cause lung failure requiring respirators so widespread. We need to wake up to reality, self isolate and live social distancing for the next few months or whenever we get the all clear, which may be longer if all ages don’t take this seriously. you don’t want you or your loved ones to get this so follow the medical experts’ advice.
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If anyone else like statistics, here's a great site to check out...
www.worldometers.info
I particularly found interest in this slice of the data surrounding the virus: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
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Coronavirus Update (Live): 124,601,788 Cases and 2,740,362 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
I particularly found interest in this slice of the data surrounding the virus: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
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Yeah, probably not. There are a number of statements in that woman's post that are demonstrably false.
First of all, 90%+ of those being tested for Coronavirus in the U.S. DON'T have it. The test comes back negative. Keep in mind, even now you can't get tested just because you want to. You have to be referred by a medical professional who pre-screens for the appropriate symptoms.
Second, her statement suggests she thinks there is only one kind of flu out there. This is NEVER the case. The symptoms she described are consistent with a very common strain of the flu that's been making the rounds this flu season.
The confirmed cases of Coronavirus world wide calculate to 0.008% of the population. Confirmed cases in the U.S. are very close to that 0.01%. Let's say due to a lack of testing that the real number of those who have gotten Coronavirus are 10 times greater. Your chances of having had the coronavirus are still really, really small.
First of all, 90%+ of those being tested for Coronavirus in the U.S. DON'T have it. The test comes back negative. Keep in mind, even now you can't get tested just because you want to. You have to be referred by a medical professional who pre-screens for the appropriate symptoms.
Second, her statement suggests she thinks there is only one kind of flu out there. This is NEVER the case. The symptoms she described are consistent with a very common strain of the flu that's been making the rounds this flu season.
The confirmed cases of Coronavirus world wide calculate to 0.008% of the population. Confirmed cases in the U.S. are very close to that 0.01%. Let's say due to a lack of testing that the real number of those who have gotten Coronavirus are 10 times greater. Your chances of having had the coronavirus are still really, really small.
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It’s too early to tell. I live in Harris County, Texas. It’s the largest county in the state and third largest in the nation. We’ve had 160 possible cases so far, many of which are still being investigated to determine if they are Covid-19, and we’ve had only one death - an 80+ year old male.
My wife is an RN and her hospital has seen 0 confirmed cases. They sent most of their staff home for a county shelter in place because there isn’t enough work. She works in day surgery, which is only handling a few non-emergency cases, but would have had the opportunity to work in other units if there was work to be done - and there isn’t as of yet.
We have in international airport, an international shipping port with 100’s of terminals, and we just aren’t seeing it. Maybe we got ahead or lucky with the international travel ban, but the potential numbers provided by media and concern just haven’t realized here (yet, at least).
I’m not suggesting we are over reacting, but I’m not convinced it’s as big of a concern as it’s been portrayed as just yet. The few cases I’ve heard of near me that were confirmed/positive involved little symptoms and complete recoveries.
At this point the OP image/screenshot seems entirely plausible to me.
That's 229 cases and 2 deaths.
It's between 72-81F and humid in Houston, and the virus is believed to spread more slowly in such conditions - warm and humid.
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End of December locally there was flu type illness going around which seemed to affect everyone. No deaths though.....
I think as the science becomes more clear around this over the next few months we are going to find a mortality rate more in line with the seasonal flu. If that’s the case we clearly need to change the way we are responding to this virus.
How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear
Much of the response to COVID-19 seems explained by the fact that we are watching this virus in a way that no virus has been watched beforespectator.us
Highly doubtful. I doubt the folks in Italy would agree with the near 10% mortality rate they are seeing.
Everyone should be very careful about the information in this thread.
Letting your guard down could be very dangerous for you, your family and the incredible health care workers out there. We just don’t know until the testing is significantly more wide spread. Please be safe.
Lastly, I’ll say this - there is alot to be taken away from this experience and it isn’t all bad. I see families in my neighborhood I’ve never seen before, walking together. I see Moms/Dads taking their kids for bike rides, roller blading, walks or playing together in the front and back yards. Siblings playing together more. I think the silver lining in all of it so far is that it made us slooooow the $@&# down. At least in NY it has. Some of my close friends and family have spent more time with their kids in this past few weeks than maybe all of last year.
I’ve learned a few things about being prepared more, about how to conserve and waste less, eating together as a family and how awesome my wife is! Had to throw that last one in there for her, she is pretty bad arse. I’ve learned there are people out there that are essential to how we live yet we normally give them little to no credit, i.e. grocery store workers, utility workers etc.. I’ve learned that the ability of leaders to communicate is even more essential in desperate times. I’ve learned that cruise ships sound like floating petri dishes and can’t comprehend why people bother. I think we all learned how to be more mindful of germs and personal space. This is just a short list that comes to mind.....
I’ll just end with a huge debt of gratitude to all the essential and healthcare workers out there. I hope they remain safe and we all respect them enough to follow any local and federal mandates for social distancing and isolation.
Iceland is far ahead of any country in testing per capita and is the only country to have tested a large portion of asymptomatic people. They have tested about 3% of their population which would be the equivalent of 10 million having been tested in the U.S. So far their testing has found that 6.4 percent of all those tested are positive and this suggests a much higher infection rate and also that about 50 percent show no symptoms. That’s a big problem for stopping the spread in countries like ours. We simply don’t know who has it and if the infection rate in the U.S. is even half of what it is Iceland, we have about 10 million citizens that have already been exposed, many who have already recovered but many of them who could be spreading it to family, friends, or random strangers at the grocery store. Interestingly they have only 2 deaths so far(0.2%) which also needs further study.
Iceland aggressive testing and tracking hasn’t been possible for the U.S. this time around but we can learn from it and maybe it will be when Covid 19 or another virus hits us again.
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Iceland aggressive testing and tracking hasn’t been possible for the U.S. this time around but we can learn from it and maybe it will be when Covid 19 or another virus hits us again.
Why Iceland may have the best approach to coronavirus testing
Random testing could be helping the country's public-health authorities contain COVID-19.
If true, this would be worrisome.
I try to be as neutral as possible, but leaning more on the side that this is considerably worse than the flu. I'd venture to guess hospital workers in NYC would have a different and more credible opinion than the LInkedIn post from the OP.
But what the hell do I know? I understand media coverage can make any situation look worse than it is simply by giving it more attention. OTOH, the world will eventually get hit with another Spanish Flu and when it does, there will initially be naysayers or folks downplaying it.
So the one thing I've been thinking about/hoping for is that after COVID 19 has run its course, we can look back and determine facts. What mistakes were made? Did we overreact, under react? Can we find absolutes to either always or never repeat the next time? Can we determine a more precise way to measure the potential harm, and better or more appropriate ways to get ahead of it?
To think that the smartest minds on our planet might not be able gather accurate information from this and apply it towards a better plan for the future would be pathetic, IMO.
Hope you feel better. Hopefully just the normal flu crap. We need Teem Tour Edge healthy when this golf hiatus ends.
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I guess it depends on what source you want to use. The official Harris County is still less, but may reach the numbers you shared this afternoon when updated.
2019 Novel Coronavirus
Central location for 2019 Novel Coronavirus, COVID, and COVID-19 resources organized by Harris County Public Health in relation to confirmed and active cases in Harris County, reopening businesses, and general guidance.
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I use the JohnsHopkins worldwide app - you click on a County and total cases and deaths comes up.
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It’s weird that JohnHopkins shows 0 recovered, but the county says 14. There are several more of those in my line of work that are recovered as well. Maybe they are just waiting as long as possible before declaring someone as recovered. Most of the 14 listed in the county site were positive or presumptive in February.
This is insane.. I've seen so many different numbers posted and my biggest worry is the misinformation that's floating around..
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I know one thing for sure - shutting down the economy for an extended amount of time, coupled with wild "stimulus" spending in DC, could be far more devastating than the disease itself. All I hear this morning is talk of extending quarantine/stay-at-home measures even further.
Well that's not all I'm hearing. I'm also VERY perplexed with the predominately negative comments regarding the use of the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin combo to treat COVID-19. In fact, as I'm writing this, Gov. DeSantis was just having a presser in FL that was showing on Fox News. When he began to make positive comments about the use of this drug combo, there was a "technical problem" and the screen went blue. The Fox anchor apologizes and then they go right back to DeSantis after he's done with those comments.
Well that's not all I'm hearing. I'm also VERY perplexed with the predominately negative comments regarding the use of the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin combo to treat COVID-19. In fact, as I'm writing this, Gov. DeSantis was just having a presser in FL that was showing on Fox News. When he began to make positive comments about the use of this drug combo, there was a "technical problem" and the screen went blue. The Fox anchor apologizes and then they go right back to DeSantis after he's done with those comments.