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Feeding Your Ego or Preference?

SuperStroke
The clear answer is 0. I would willingly give up 0 strokes to accommodate preference. The murky answer is I'm not sure how many strokes I'm actually giving up by playing the clubs I play. It is the tinkerer's nature/curse to constantly see potential improvement, whether it is actually there or not.
 
Templet0n said:
In my mind I am saying there isnt a sacrifice, but there potentially and even probably is. So I would say a few. How clubs look is kinda important to me. Hopefully those strokes get made up somewhere else.
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I’m curious on this comment. Last week a question was posed whether to take driver accuracy or a bit more distance. You said you shouldn’t have to give up either. So this stroke comment about sacrifice is a bit of a shift it seems?
 
Pharaoh said:
I’m curious on this comment. Last week a question was posed whether to take driver accuracy or a bit more distance. You said you shouldn’t have to give up either. So this stroke comment about sacrifice is a bit of a shift it seems?
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No. Not really. I 100% believe that driver there is zero sacrifices needed. Just get a proper fit. All drivers are good enough that don’t have to sacrifice.

My take here was more in the thought of irons wedges, etc. could I play a little better with more forgiving irons? Maybe.. but I like a certain look and I am kinda not willing to get too far out of that box.
 
Templet0n said:
No. Not really. I 100% believe that driver there is zero sacrifices needed. Just get a proper fit. All drivers are good enough that don’t have to sacrifice.

My take here was more in the thought of irons wedges, etc. could I play a little better with more forgiving irons? Maybe.. but I like a certain look and I am kinda not willing to get too far out of that box.
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I don’t believe all drivers are good enough…as it pertains to not leaving performance on the table.
 
I really want to say the answer would be zero, but in reality, it's probably something like 2-3? I feel like I tend to play the most forgiving stuff for my game to make it as easy as possible, but maybe I'm not, and there's better out there for me
 
JB said:
We all have visual preferences and things we believe we like or dislike. Be it top line, offset, visual technology vs clean. Taking this discussion a step further, and let's assume for the sake of conversation, you are giving something up (you most likely are) in some area.

How many strokes would you be willing to give up to feed your personal preferences during the course of a round?

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Zero. I'm not good enough to give up strokes to play something that I like the looks of a touch more. But then again i'm already in a ton of fairway woods, hybrids, Super game improvement irons, GI wedges and mallet putter.

I likely am still giving up something as I don't have access/funds to try everything to get absolutely everything out of my equipment so if I could go to a quality fitter and get fit could we make some gains, probably, but that doesn't have to do with my ego or personal preferences.
 
JB said:
I don’t believe all drivers are good enough…as it pertains to not leaving performance on the table.
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Which main brand driver do you think is lacking?
 
JB said:
I don’t believe all drivers are good enough…as it pertains to not leaving performance on the table.
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Also, I guess I am saying that there is enough good out there that you don’t have to.
 
0. Ego checked out years ago.
 
I don't think i'm leaving any out there due to equipment. I often use the most forgiving driver i can find , and the past year i've gone back to combo sets that allow forgiveness in the longer irons.
 
As many as it takes what I like to look at. Luckily for me more forgiving options are looking really good these days. Considering specifically King Tec and 3DP in irons. Even the max drivers are starting to hide their size and extra help a little bit easier.

Club design is becoming really good at finding ways to hide the forgiveness they’re giving you. The gap between finding something that helps you in a package you enjoy looking at is getting smaller. We always say nobody is making bad equipment so there’s plenty of options for someone to find a look they enjoy.
 
Zero? 1-2 maybe? I think these days we have so many options that I am able to find SOMETHING that looks good to my eye AND suits my swing. Especially now that I have the Ti Fusions in my irons, but even there I only play those up to the 7i and have a hybrid after that. I've gone as forgiving as I can in the profiles I like, and moved to a high launch high spin ball to complement it. If anything finding a putter that fits my eye and vision and stroke is more difficult than any other club, but even there I have a couple that work.
 
Very interesting question, in a perfect world the answer is 0, however ego gets in the way or the desire to “grow into a set”. Thankfully OEMs are doing a great job of packing forgiveness into a great looking package.
 
I am optimistic that there is always something that will redefine what my scoring potential is. More than willing to be open minded about experimenting, but have yet to find things that really set themselves apart from my current builds.
 
0...I am a mental midget when it comes to those things. If I dont like the look of it, it will be hard to get over it....
 
JDax said:
Very interesting question, in a perfect world the answer is 0, however ego gets in the way or the desire to “grow into a set”. Thankfully OEMs are doing a great job of packing forgiveness into a great looking package.
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That’s what I’m thinking here. I mean if we look at just a couple of brands here like Callaway, Titleist, and Cobra we’ve seen stunning drivers, woods, hybrids, irons, wedges, etc that obviously are for different skill levels but all would look great in a bag. There might be subtle differences in look but generally very minor that one wouldn’t notice unless obsessing over it.
 
JB said:
Most will say zero, but even the finely tuned THPers, go to something like Shaft Up and immediately see massive gains.
Be it ball, shaft, club head, etc. There is easily strokes to be made up and nearly everybody has preferences.
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I'm currently playing what I think best suits me and gives me the best chance of playing well. I'm guessing with a deep fitting I could find something that fits better, but don't know what that would actually equate to. What is preventing me from playing better right now isn't my bag, but lack of time spent practicing and not taking lessons.
 
I’m certain I’m already giving up plenty (5-7, probably more) in my current set up, but it’s not the end of the world. I’ve played better with lesser equipment than what I have now. Don’t have all the free time I once did so that doesn’t help. Plus I enjoy tinkering with stuff for cheap fun.
 
I'd say honestly I'm ok giving up a couple of strokes. In reality, I am probably giving up more than that if I take a hard look at my game right now.
 
As I get older and the goal of shooting par gets farther away, I've pondered more forgiving irons and clubs. I also don't make as many dumb mistakes by going over bunkers to a tight pin and going for greens in 2 that I shouldn't be.
 
I'm going to guess 2-3. Whether it's wedges, the number of wedges, brand and/or loft, or simply not getting fit properly for shafts. I go with what I have or like at the time.
 
I want to say 0, but probably a stroke or two. I try to go into a fitting with zero preconceptions and let the fitter do their work. It usually comes down to 2 options that are pretty close. I then choose based on aesthetics or brand (it used to be price, which is why I'm playing Wilson irons). Does that cost me a stoke or two? I honestly don't know, but over 18 holes - it likely does.
 
I'd say probably about 4 lol
 
Zero.

I cannot afford to give up any extra strokes with the current state of my game
 
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