GolfTEC Lessons

[amarkabove]

Question for people: how are you capturing any data you want to save from a practice session. My coach has informed me only lessons show up in clubhouse not practice sessions so I'm wondering best ways to get numbers if I want to spend a session doing gapping. My inclination is just pull up the chart and take some screenshots but didn't know if there was a better way. Can you log into a SkyTrak account at the same time as being in your GolfTec account?

 

[E.Appleton]

Not going to have time to go through everything tonight for the full recap on yesterday's lesson unfortunately, but I want to post one screen shot to highlight a lot of what we worked on that really shows the power and value of the video feed back.

Before left after right. Clubhead at impact

More to come...

 

[Nashtyone]

Question for people: how are you capturing any data you want to save from a practice session. My coach has informed me only lessons show up in clubhouse not practice sessions so I'm wondering best ways to get numbers if I want to spend a session doing gapping. My inclination is just pull up the chart and take some screenshots but didn't know if there was a better way. Can you log into a SkyTrak account at the same time as being in your GolfTec account?

I don't know if logging in on skytrak will help but pulling up the chart and taking screen shots def would work

 

[blazinden]

Practice No. 4
Its like Christmas.

Nothing tests your patience like trying to turn every optimotion box green. One swing is pretty good; then, the next looks like a stoplight exploded.

Color boxes:
Green: Ideal performance, aligns with Tour averages
Blue: Specific movement that encourages an over drawing of the golf ball
Yellow: Areas needing improvement, commonly linked to a fade or slice
Red: Significant flaws leading to a loss of distance and slice

*missed boxed colors but downswing matches above swing.

You fix one thing… and suddenly, two others turn red. But that’s the grind. Every session, every adjustment gets me closer and closer to a repeatable swing. It might not be ideal for everyone but good enough to play some golf.

The optimotion doesn’t lie; so when it says you’re improving, you know it’s real. It forces you to be honest with your swing. Not, I think that one felt good. Just real feedback.

A few tips to try to get yourself green lit:

Feel your lead arm stay connected to your chest in the backswing.

If your path keeps going red, check your takeaway / back swing from for the first foot or two.

Check your grip. Are you too strong? Too weak? Don't forget about grip pressure. A death grip might only be good for holding the club in the rain.

Try the 123 tempo drill.
1: start the takeaway / shoulder turn.
2: reach the top of the backswing and prepare for transition.
3: initiate the downswing / transition through the ball.
Smooth = fast.

Shift your weight/pressure before impact. More pressure on the lead foot equals cleaner contact.

You can try focusing on one box at time if that's easier, too.

Are all the boxes green, yet? It’s rare. Like, unicorn rare.

 

[FlipFlop]

I'd love to feature the availability of course play as well. After deciding I didn't feel like mindlessly ripping drivers, I opted to back out of the range view and move to course play to try and apply the new move to different clubs on the fly, using the mulligan feature when necessary to hammer home the feeling.

It was WAY more fun that way. Not to mention, a lot harder to refine the move as you're constantly switching clubs.

I'm very impressed with how easy it is to do switching from lesson to range to fun time.

This is key for my practice sessions and I love it. Move around the course to different shots, hit a few, if the feeling is good I move on. It really helps to feel like you’re on course thinking through and carrying out a shot.

 

[FlipFlop]

Question for people: how are you capturing any data you want to save from a practice session. My coach has informed me only lessons show up in clubhouse not practice sessions so I'm wondering best ways to get numbers if I want to spend a session doing gapping. My inclination is just pull up the chart and take some screenshots but didn't know if there was a better way. Can you log into a SkyTrak account at the same time as being in your GolfTec account?

I take the tripod that we got at the GolfTEC experience and set it up behind me for a down the line video. If I want to highlight the screen and data that optimotion shows, I’ll get a quick photo/video of that playback.

 

[FlipFlop]

Not going to have time to go through everything tonight for the full recap on yesterday's lesson unfortunately, but I want to post one screen shot to highlight a lot of what we worked on that really shows the power and value of the video feed back.

Before left after right. Clubhead at impact
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More to come...

Much better position there at impact!

 

[FlipFlop]

Practice No. 4
Its like Christmas.

Nothing tests your patience like trying to turn every optimotion box green. One swing is pretty good; then, the next looks like a stoplight exploded.

Color boxes:
Green: Ideal performance, aligns with Tour averages
Blue: Specific movement that encourages an over drawing of the golf ball
Yellow: Areas needing improvement, commonly linked to a fade or slice
Red: Significant flaws leading to a loss of distance and slice

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*missed boxed colors but downswing matches above swing.

You fix one thing… and suddenly, two others turn red. But that’s the grind. Every session, every adjustment gets me closer and closer to a repeatable swing. It might not be ideal for everyone but good enough to play some golf.

The optimotion doesn’t lie; so when it says you’re improving, you know it’s real. It forces you to be honest with your swing. Not, I think that one felt good. Just real feedback.

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A few tips to try to get yourself green lit:

Feel your lead arm stay connected to your chest in the backswing.

If your path keeps going red, check your takeaway / back swing from for the first foot or two.

Check your grip. Are you too strong? Too weak? Don't forget about grip pressure. A death grip might only be good for holding the club in the rain.

Try the 123 tempo drill.
1: start the takeaway / shoulder turn.
2: reach the top of the backswing and prepare for transition.
3: initiate the downswing / transition through the ball.
Smooth = fast.

Shift your weight/pressure before impact. More pressure on the lead foot equals cleaner contact.

You can try focusing on one box at time if that's easier, too.

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Are all the boxes green, yet? It’s rare. Like, unicorn rare.

Love this recap and explanation @blazinden ! Paying attention to the little feels that correlate with that box changing colors is how to make those changes stick. It can be incredibly frustrating at times but that’s when you know it’s the real issue to be working on. Great job on the progress!

 

[lukemartin93]

scheduled a practice for tonight. Have a couple things I really want to ingrain and practice before my next lesson

 

[Canadan]

This is key for my practice sessions and I love it. Move around the course to different shots, hit a few, if the feeling is good I move on. It really helps to feel like you’re on course thinking through and carrying out a shot.

There's something about on course play that makes an enormous difference. Whether it's seeing something other than a wide open range, or the fact that you're changing clubs and need to apply it to a number of different types of clubs along the way.

It made a big difference for me on Monday.

 

[lukemartin93]

I take the tripod that we got at the GolfTEC experience and set it up behind me for a down the line video. If I want to highlight the screen and data that optimotion shows, I’ll get a quick photo/video of that playback.

This is a good idea!

 

[FlipFlop]

From my lesson last Thursday I started working on that new feel of the left shoulder driving the turn and the “up down up” feeling with the hands. I practiced it with quite a few dry swing over the weekend and put it in play yesterday on course.

It’s still a little wonky at times and definitely crept into my wedge swing, hurting my pitch shots but for the most part it was good. I was hitting my irons very crispy all day. Flush shots, hands in front of the club head, and compressing the ball. A couple left the face a little open but no slices on the day. Only one rushed old swing that I pulled it but it was still much better than the previous pull hook.

The warm up drills that coach gave me really seemed to help set the tone for the day. I think that’s a big key to remember with the lessons at GOLFTEC. They will put you in position to succeed! Whether or not it holds long term is going to be up to you putting in the work in between. I would think that goes without saying, but I’m putting it out there anyways.

 

[FlipFlop]

There's something about on course play that makes an enormous difference. Whether it's seeing something other than a wide open range, or the fact that you're changing clubs and need to apply it to a number of different types of clubs along the way.

It made a big difference for me on Monday.

That whole practice with pressure thing just might be real. So great that GOLFTEC enables students to practice both ways.

 

[lukemartin93]

There's something about on course play that makes an enormous difference. Whether it's seeing something other than a wide open range, or the fact that you're changing clubs and need to apply it to a number of different types of clubs along the way.

It made a big difference for me on Monday.

I’ll have to play around with this tonight. It’s very easy for me to fall in the rut of mindless ball hitting.

 

[FlipFlop]

I’ll have to play around with this tonight. It’s very easy for me to fall in the rut of mindless ball hitting.

Definitely do this. Warmup on the range and get on course.

 

[lukemartin93]

Definitely do this. Warmup on the range and get on course.

My plan is to take half the time or so to work on some drills and then the other time, work on implementing the moves to the course

 

[Canadan]

I had a sim session last night with friends. It's the first time getting into course play since my lesson on Monday, and I am really all in on working out my angle per my coach. What is crazy to me is how something so simple can introduce quite a bit more power - as I am working through my core a lot more than just squaring up the shot with my hands/arms and using my core as a guiding tool.

It's hard to put a real number of the current distances that I am getting because of the elevation change of the courses we played (using the Trackman IO software) but some of it was getting a bit silly. I carried a 6 iron 210 yards swinging aggressively at a par 3 pin. One one hole, I had 239 yards to the pin that was downhill and had like 1.2mph of wind at the back and landed it pin high about ten feet left.... with a 5 iron.

But it's not just that. It's helping me not hit the simulator rollover draws that I often times get stuck in, where I can't swing enough out to the right to keep it from finishing left of the hole. It's also helping me enormously with driver, pretty consistency getting over 260 yards of carry and reaching a peak ball speed of 164. I hope this continues to trend this way, as I remember back when I was hitting driver well the goal was always chasing 170mph ball speed.

This is SO encouraging.

 

[E.Appleton]

TLDR: Wrists and hips. Wrists controlling the face and also helping keep the elbow in and in. Hips back and through to eliminate early extension and drive power.

Alright let's get into this weeks lesson as it's another doozey.
Starting with the before swing: https://gt.golf/7mUVm9
I like the arm length I am generating compared to before. Straighter lead arm, more tucked elbow, even a bit less early extension, but there's a problem. Can you spot it?

The problem is right here

I am cupping the wrists which leaves the face open and requires a save a the end to square the face leading to a flippy finish which we do not want. This was one of two things we worked on for the lesson, the other continuing to drive fixes for early extension; so let's get into how we addressed them.

My coach likes aids and honestly so do I as it forces the feel even if it's exaggerated, so he threw on the G Snap aid. This is a training aid that you strap onto your wrist and theres a loop you slip your middle finger through. There are various settings for how intense you want it to be (we used maximum to drive the feel), but essentially in your backswing, you need to bow your wrist enough to generate a very obvious 'click' to tell you that you are in position and keep that position through impact. I lovingly call this the John Rahm tool.

Wrist position does more than dictate how square the face is, it also helps bring the elbow in and keep it in front of you in the downswing, I was surprised to learn.

See on the left how the elbow is much more in front than stuck behind? This was not even a good one, but the change is undeniable. To get the aid to click in the most extreme setting it not only forces the wrist flexion, but proper extension of the lead arm to keep the backswing nice and wide, so it's a great tool for putting yourself into the correct position throughout the backswing from a face perspective and arm length perspective.

The bane of my existence is early extension. It plagues a lot of people and for me it stems from a few things: mobility in the hips is low which leads to getting on the toes to promote the turn which leads to pushing up vertically instead of turning into the ball, and simply not quite feeling how to properly use the ground to drive the hips back and generate power. All of my power comes from turning with my torso and arms so I am leaving a ton on the table in that regard as well as being quite inconsistent from that early extension.

We worked on the drill I've seen at TPI and other places sitting on an office chair and pushing backward to start, but also pushing and turning the chair as you launch backwards. What's frustrating, is I can do a lot of the movements without a club in my hand, but as soon as you add in a downswing into the mix I can't feel how to turn and drive the hips. Maybe it's a "can't walk and chew bubble gum" type of thing, but it's a work in progress.

With early extension I am getting about 21* of hip turn, the goal for the winter is to try and get to 30* without early extending.

Throughout the lesson learning to drive that feel, Clayton added in another aid: a little rod in front of me. The goal here is that my trail leg cannot touch that rod until after impact. this is a great indicator that early extension is not happening. What that does, and what I alluded to in a previous post, is reduce the flippy save when paired with proper wrist placement. On the left is the before swing at impact and on the right is the after at impact. Look how everything is in a perfect line at impact.

Here are some screens from the best swing of the night compared to the before. You can see on the before I am practically jumping straight up. To quote coach "when you go up, club comes down" meaning that's leading to steep swings that are inconsistent.

Here's the good one. Nice wide downswing compared to above with the elbow underneath the lead arm

Position at impact nice and straight without extending and 24* hip turn which is more than the early extension, but not at the goal yet

Finally, a clip of the after swing https://gt.golf/5CKlEl
This is why I call it the John Rahm aid

Again, this is at the most extreme setting to drive the change in the wrists. Working that aspect of change will be the easy part I think. Learning how to use the ground and driving the hips is the hard part for me. While I do not feel like I fully got it, my body is telling my a different story. I am sore in new places which tells me new things are being activated so I will continue to work on this tonight at practice to really feel heavy in the feet and drive the hips. The feet pressure should be like a Nordic Track; right foot pulling backward, left foot pushing forward to push the hips back and towards the target.

Thanks if you made it all the way through. If you have, what have you done to try and drive the hips, eliminate early extension, and create power? What tips have helped you?

 

[lukemartin93]

I had a sim session last night with friends. It's the first time getting into course play since my lesson on Monday, and I am really all in on working out my angle per my coach. What is crazy to me is how something so simple can introduce quite a bit more power - as I am working through my core a lot more than just squaring up the shot with my hands/arms and using my core as a guiding tool.

It's hard to put a real number of the current distances that I am getting because of the elevation change of the courses we played (using the Trackman IO software) but some of it was getting a bit silly. I carried a 6 iron 210 yards swinging aggressively at a par 3 pin. One one hole, I had 239 yards to the pin that was downhill and had like 1.2mph of wind at the back and landed it pin high about ten feet left.... with a 5 iron.

But it's not just that. It's helping me not hit the simulator rollover draws that I often times get stuck in, where I can't swing enough out to the right to keep it from finishing left of the hole. It's also helping me enormously with driver, pretty consistency getting over 260 yards of carry and reaching a peak ball speed of 164. I hope this continues to trend this way, as I remember back when I was hitting driver well the goal was always chasing 170mph ball speed.

This is SO encouraging.

I feel like this is what’s so awesome about GOLFTEC. It can literally help anyone. From the novice I am, to the player who’s been playing for years and years, ANYONE can (and will) see improvement

 

[Canadan]

I feel like this is what’s so awesome about GOLFTEC. It can literally help anyone. From the novice I am, to the player who’s been playing for years and years, ANYONE can (and will) see improvement

with the right coach.
with the right attitude.
with the willingness to commit to a change.

100%

 

[lukemartin93]

TLDR: Wrists and hips. Wrists controlling the face and also helping keep the elbow in and in. Hips back and through to eliminate early extension and drive power.

Alright let's get into this weeks lesson as it's another doozey.
Starting with the before swing: https://gt.golf/7mUVm9
I like the arm length I am generating compared to before. Straighter lead arm, more tucked elbow, even a bit less early extension, but there's a problem. Can you spot it?
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The problem is right here
View attachment 9397272

I am cupping the wrists which leaves the face open and requires a save a the end to square the face leading to a flippy finish which we do not want. This was one of two things we worked on for the lesson, the other continuing to drive fixes for early extension; so let's get into how we addressed them.

My coach likes aids and honestly so do I as it forces the feel even if it's exaggerated, so he threw on the G Snap aid. This is a training aid that you strap onto your wrist and theres a loop you slip your middle finger through. There are various settings for how intense you want it to be (we used maximum to drive the feel), but essentially in your backswing, you need to bow your wrist enough to generate a very obvious 'click' to tell you that you are in position and keep that position through impact. I lovingly call this the John Rahm tool.

Wrist position does more than dictate how square the face is, it also helps bring the elbow in and keep it in front of you in the downswing, I was surprised to learn.
View attachment 9397276
View attachment 9397278
See on the left how the elbow is much more in front than stuck behind? This was not even a good one, but the change is undeniable. To get the aid to click in the most extreme setting it not only forces the wrist flexion, but proper extension of the lead arm to keep the backswing nice and wide, so it's a great tool for putting yourself into the correct position throughout the backswing from a face perspective and arm length perspective.

The bane of my existence is early extension. It plagues a lot of people and for me it stems from a few things: mobility in the hips is low which leads to getting on the toes to promote the turn which leads to pushing up vertically instead of turning into the ball, and simply not quite feeling how to properly use the ground to drive the hips back and generate power. All of my power comes from turning with my torso and arms so I am leaving a ton on the table in that regard as well as being quite inconsistent from that early extension.

We worked on the drill I've seen at TPI and other places sitting on an office chair and pushing backward to start, but also pushing and turning the chair as you launch backwards. What's frustrating, is I can do a lot of the movements without a club in my hand, but as soon as you add in a downswing into the mix I can't feel how to turn and drive the hips. Maybe it's a "can't walk and chew bubble gum" type of thing, but it's a work in progress.

With early extension I am getting about 21* of hip turn, the goal for the winter is to try and get to 30* without early extending.
View attachment 9397284

Throughout the lesson learning to drive that feel, Clayton added in another aid: a little rod in front of me. The goal here is that my trail leg cannot touch that rod until after impact. this is a great indicator that early extension is not happening. What that does, and what I alluded to in a previous post, is reduce the flippy save when paired with proper wrist placement. On the left is the before swing at impact and on the right is the after at impact. Look how everything is in a perfect line at impact.
View attachment 9397285

Here are some screens from the best swing of the night compared to the before. You can see on the before I am practically jumping straight up. To quote coach "when you go up, club comes down" meaning that's leading to steep swings that are inconsistent.
View attachment 9397286

Here's the good one. Nice wide downswing compared to above with the elbow underneath the lead arm
View attachment 9397287

Position at impact nice and straight without extending and 24* hip turn which is more than the early extension, but not at the goal yet
View attachment 9397289

Finally, a clip of the after swing https://gt.golf/5CKlEl
This is why I call it the John Rahm aid
View attachment 9397290

Again, this is at the most extreme setting to drive the change in the wrists. Working that aspect of change will be the easy part I think. Learning how to use the ground and driving the hips is the hard part for me. While I do not feel like I fully got it, my body is telling my a different story. I am sore in new places which tells me new things are being activated so I will continue to work on this tonight at practice to really feel heavy in the feet and drive the hips. The feet pressure should be like a Nordic Track; right foot pulling backward, left foot pushing forward to push the hips back and towards the target.

Thanks if you made it all the way through. If you have, what have you done to try and drive the hips, eliminate early extension, and create power? What tips have helped you?

Love to see all the work you are putting in! I feel like I’m in the room with you lol it seems like the coach is doing a great job explaining the whys and not just trying to quick fix things

 

[amarkabove]

I take the tripod that we got at the GolfTEC experience and set it up behind me for a down the line video. If I want to highlight the screen and data that optimotion shows, I’ll get a quick photo/video of that playback.

That’s a great idea. I’ll be bringing my osmo with me next practice session.

 

[amarkabove]

with the right coach.
with the right attitude.
with the willingness to commit to a change.

100%

This is a fantastic way of saying this.

 

[FlipFlop]

TLDR: Wrists and hips. Wrists controlling the face and also helping keep the elbow in and in. Hips back and through to eliminate early extension and drive power.

Alright let's get into this weeks lesson as it's another doozey.
Starting with the before swing: https://gt.golf/7mUVm9
I like the arm length I am generating compared to before. Straighter lead arm, more tucked elbow, even a bit less early extension, but there's a problem. Can you spot it?
View attachment 9397270
View attachment 9397271
The problem is right here
View attachment 9397272

I am cupping the wrists which leaves the face open and requires a save a the end to square the face leading to a flippy finish which we do not want. This was one of two things we worked on for the lesson, the other continuing to drive fixes for early extension; so let's get into how we addressed them.

My coach likes aids and honestly so do I as it forces the feel even if it's exaggerated, so he threw on the G Snap aid. This is a training aid that you strap onto your wrist and theres a loop you slip your middle finger through. There are various settings for how intense you want it to be (we used maximum to drive the feel), but essentially in your backswing, you need to bow your wrist enough to generate a very obvious 'click' to tell you that you are in position and keep that position through impact. I lovingly call this the John Rahm tool.

Wrist position does more than dictate how square the face is, it also helps bring the elbow in and keep it in front of you in the downswing, I was surprised to learn.
View attachment 9397276
View attachment 9397278
See on the left how the elbow is much more in front than stuck behind? This was not even a good one, but the change is undeniable. To get the aid to click in the most extreme setting it not only forces the wrist flexion, but proper extension of the lead arm to keep the backswing nice and wide, so it's a great tool for putting yourself into the correct position throughout the backswing from a face perspective and arm length perspective.

The bane of my existence is early extension. It plagues a lot of people and for me it stems from a few things: mobility in the hips is low which leads to getting on the toes to promote the turn which leads to pushing up vertically instead of turning into the ball, and simply not quite feeling how to properly use the ground to drive the hips back and generate power. All of my power comes from turning with my torso and arms so I am leaving a ton on the table in that regard as well as being quite inconsistent from that early extension.

We worked on the drill I've seen at TPI and other places sitting on an office chair and pushing backward to start, but also pushing and turning the chair as you launch backwards. What's frustrating, is I can do a lot of the movements without a club in my hand, but as soon as you add in a downswing into the mix I can't feel how to turn and drive the hips. Maybe it's a "can't walk and chew bubble gum" type of thing, but it's a work in progress.

With early extension I am getting about 21* of hip turn, the goal for the winter is to try and get to 30* without early extending.
View attachment 9397284

Throughout the lesson learning to drive that feel, Clayton added in another aid: a little rod in front of me. The goal here is that my trail leg cannot touch that rod until after impact. this is a great indicator that early extension is not happening. What that does, and what I alluded to in a previous post, is reduce the flippy save when paired with proper wrist placement. On the left is the before swing at impact and on the right is the after at impact. Look how everything is in a perfect line at impact.
View attachment 9397285

Here are some screens from the best swing of the night compared to the before. You can see on the before I am practically jumping straight up. To quote coach "when you go up, club comes down" meaning that's leading to steep swings that are inconsistent.
View attachment 9397286

Here's the good one. Nice wide downswing compared to above with the elbow underneath the lead arm
View attachment 9397287

Position at impact nice and straight without extending and 24* hip turn which is more than the early extension, but not at the goal yet
View attachment 9397289

Finally, a clip of the after swing https://gt.golf/5CKlEl
This is why I call it the John Rahm aid
View attachment 9397290

Again, this is at the most extreme setting to drive the change in the wrists. Working that aspect of change will be the easy part I think. Learning how to use the ground and driving the hips is the hard part for me. While I do not feel like I fully got it, my body is telling my a different story. I am sore in new places which tells me new things are being activated so I will continue to work on this tonight at practice to really feel heavy in the feet and drive the hips. The feet pressure should be like a Nordic Track; right foot pulling backward, left foot pushing forward to push the hips back and towards the target.

Thanks if you made it all the way through. If you have, what have you done to try and drive the hips, eliminate early extension, and create power? What tips have helped you?

What a freaking difference! Did you order the G Snap yet? I’ve seen it and as a wrist cupper in the past always thought about ordering it. Seeing the correlation between that and the front arm staying straight has peaked my interest again as that’s an issue I get myself letting that arm bend and trail elbow flair out.

As for tips on the early extension, my work in an earlier lesson about really feeling the push off the inside of the trail foot helped me to feel more grounded and keep the extension held off a bit.

Solid progress here! Time to grind the practice sessions and time in between to make it stick.

 

[E.Appleton]

What a freaking difference! Did you order the G Snap yet? I’ve seen it and as a wrist cupper in the past always thought about ordering it. Seeing the correlation between that and the front arm staying straight has peaked my interest again as that’s an issue I get myself letting that arm bend and trail elbow flair out.

As for tips on the early extension, my work in an earlier lesson about really feeling the push off the inside of the trail foot helped me to feel more grounded and keep the extension held off a bit.

Solid progress here! Time to grind the practice sessions and time in between to make it stick.

I havent ordered the GSnap yet, but may if I feel like I need to. This change I think I can incorporate on my own easier than the extension. It is really effective though and I love that there are different settings to make it more difficult or easier to click. We went full extreme haha.

I definitely have use the inside trail foot feeling and will continue to do so. It's possible it doesn't have to be as extreme of a feel as what I am looking for, but my worry is that it won't promote the turn I am looking for enough. It will certainly help with the early extension but it seems like that's half the battle. Will continue to experiment though and use Optimotion to validate if that alone is enough! Looking forward to practice tonight to continue to make it stick