Yeah, that helps. That's kind of what I was thinking. Quiets the hands somewhat. Thanks KB, I'll try that this afternoon.
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OG, I have also struggled with a flat swing plane over the years. What has worked (at least for me) is to start with my hands low at address and try to maintain good posture (stand straight bend at the hips and don't let the shoulders droop) this does two things it gets your hands closer to your body and that should help keep the clubhead from getting behind your hands(helps keep you from fanning the club open). It should also give you the feeling that your shoulders are beginning and controlling the swing. Try this on the range with half swings and experiment with the hand position always keeping good posture and work up to a full swing. This may also let you know you are trying to take a backswing which is too long for you.
disclaimer: this is just something that has worked for me and may not work for you, you may want to consult your PGA pro!
OG I posted this before I went back and read the top of the thread, so disregard this if you have already got things you are working on in your swing. I should have read more before posting.
You can do it OG. Keep up the hard work
I like that video Bill, thanks for posting it. I know swing changes are difficult for an old hooker like yourself, good luck my friend.
I'm loving this thread, especially the video's you guys come up with. Lot's of great info, thanks.
Bill I got the tools for that backswing when I come down. We'll cure that sucker!
Ole Gray you just need to stand where it is comfortable for you to reach the ball with your club with your wrists hinged up (if that makes sense) the hinge brings effortless power and is a hinge not a roll of the wrist. It feels like the arms and therefore the club only move if your trunk moves, that way the club can never get behind you or behind (inside) your hands. It is only a drill and will seem very mechanical at first its like your arm are attached to your shoulder and can't move independently. This will give you the feel of a shoulder swing now the hands can and do release to add power but that part should come naturally if you are like me and tend to roll your wrist. Hope this helps OG.
One thing to keep in mind OG is you are trying to quiet the hands (eliminate the opening the club face on the way back or some call it fanning it open). It is as if the club head is directly in line with your sternum and the only way to open the club face is by moving the shoulders. For me this did two things it got my hands to stop manipulating the club face and it let me feel what a true shoulder turn feels like. Again hope this helps.
Ole Gray you just need to stand where it is comfortable for you to reach the ball with your club with your wrists hinged up try to hold the hinge while the club is soled on the ground (if that makes sense) the hinge brings effortless power and is a hinge not a roll of the wrist. It feels like the arms and therefore the club only move if your trunk moves, that way the club can never get behind you or behind (inside) your hands. It is only a drill and will seem very mechanical at first its like your arm are attached to your shoulder and can't move independently. This will give you the feel of a shoulder swing now the hands can and do release to add power but that part should come naturally if you are like me and tend to roll your wrist. Hope this helps OG. Hope this is a little clearer than mud.
Ole Gray, have you had a chance to try the hinge drill and if so does it seem to help?
One thing that seems to always help me no matter what the swing problem is hitting balls with my feet together.
I tried it the way he does it in the video and it is easier for me to return/sole the club on the ground and then continue. It is probably better for you in the long run to do it his way. It is harder so it must be better for me, my transition tends to get fast so this could be the reason it is harder for me to do when holding the club higher.