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This article gives some insight on strategy re: laying up or going for it.

Pretty interesting read.

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This simple chart will tell you whether you should lay up or go for it - Golf

The eternal question: Should you lay up for it or should you go for it? Thanks to Mark Broadie's statistics, now we know the answer,
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Charts from article clipped and shown below

Standard chart:




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I'm behind, gotta score chart

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It's OK to bogey, I'm ahead, let's play conservative chart

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For me, a player in between 85 and 90, I say the charts are pretty accurate.
 
Very conservative approach. I don't have the kind of discipline.
 
I get where the article is going with this and I finished as a 6.8 HC this year....but im going for it!! Depending on the conditions I can hit either a 6 iron or definitely 5 iron 200 yards. I am going for it 100% of the time from that distance. The standard chart "toss up," im not even debating it. Going for it all the way
 
jfrigo1003 said:
I get where the article is going with this and I finished as a 6.8 HC this year....but im going for it!! Depending on the conditions I can hit either a 6 iron or definitely 5 iron 200 yards. I am going for it 100% of the time from that distance. The standard chart "toss up," im not even debating it. Going for it all the way
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Hell if its 260 and no hazard in front of the green I'm taking a swipe at it. ?
 
As an "85" I'd say they are conservative, but it's also not a whole picture. At 220 there is still a chance I'm going for it depending on the surroundings. That to me dictates whether I try more so than distance. The risk/reward if trouble is involved.
 
kevin81002 said:
Hell if its 260 and no hazard in front of the green I'm taking a swipe at it. ?
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Lmao exactly! if its 230 to carry water im going for it... You need to talk me out of going for it
 
There's already a long thread on this that was started yesterday. Bottom line, there are way too many variables that determine whether I lay up or go for it. Narrowing it down to one variable (distance) would be naïve.
 
OGputtnfool said:
There's already a long thread on this that was started yesterday. Bottom line, there are way too many variables that determine whether I lay up or go for it. Narrowing it down to one variable (distance) would be naïve.
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My bad. This time of year, I am very busy, so I didn't look back much more than the top threads and didn't see anything.
 
Driver off the deck NO MATTER WHAT!%!
 
I think it's pretty spot on (once it gets to 180 it gets dicey) but I doubt I am ever laying up from 160 even with a conservative approach.
 
I am going for the hole every shot, no lay ups. :ROFLMAO::dohanim:
 
millsan1 said:
My bad. This time of year, I am very busy, so I didn't look back much more than the top threads and didn't see anything.
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Eh, it's not a big deal.
 
I think a lot of it depends on trouble. If they is water in front it is a lot different to go for it at 200-220 than if you can just run it up.


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jfrigo1003 said:
I get where the article is going with this and I finished as a 6.8 HC this year....but im going for it!! Depending on the conditions I can hit either a 6 iron or definitely 5 iron 200 yards. I am going for it 100% of the time from that distance. The standard chart "toss up," im not even debating it. Going for it all the way
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Same. I shoot 80-85 and 200 is pretty much go time every time. Why wouldn't you?

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I think I would quit golf if I had to follow this chart lol.
 
I think this is really interesting, and probably accurate.

I am far from an "analytics" guy, and I view stat-based strategies like these with healthy skepticism. But I am recently back into golf after a 20+ year hiatus. I have not yet regained consistency, so I have had to learn to "think" my way around the course more than I did back in the day when I could hit a 2 iron. And my recent personal experience kind of backs up these recommendations.

One change I have made was to drop my mid-to-long irons and (brand new) hybrids. I make my way around the course with a 3w, 7-8-9i, and two wedges. I only hit my 3w off the tee. And I only hit my 7i about 158 avg right now. So if I'm 170 out, I'm laying up. My scoring has markedly improved, even though I 'm still struggling to regain my "game".

I agree that it's really hard to convince myself not to shoot for every GIR when I'm 170-220 out, so I leave those sticks in the garage. I think following a chart like this would be tough with a full bag, but I don't disbelieve the concept.
 
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I like this chart however this guy takes over sometimes when I should be using it

 
Right now I would not go for it unless it was less that 160 to the pin. Twenty years ago It would be 180/200. The only 180 club I have in my bag today is my driver. ;)
 
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