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LPGA Rules Issue
people can call it a dumb rule all they want, but its a rule. We all know other pros like to know what someone hit on a certain tee box when they are hitting first, but generally they look in that players bag or their caddy does. That is not against the rules. or they just pay attention when the caddy flashes the TV analyst gopher the club sign.
Its funny when you are playing a Saturday morning round with the guys, and someone will ask, what did you hit, then look at you funny if you say, "i really can't tell you that"....when do you follow the rules and when do you not?
Its funny when you are playing a Saturday morning round with the guys, and someone will ask, what did you hit, then look at you funny if you say, "i really can't tell you that"....when do you follow the rules and when do you not?
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I have a question. If this happens ALL the time according to many talking about it, do you think this is the first time CK has ever seen it occur?
This is one of golfs rules I don’t think is dumb. Knowing what someone else hit can be extremely helpful, to the detriment of the rest of the field.
I think it’s just about ludicrous for the one player to claim she didn’t know this rule.
Not sure about the rest of the story...I guess it gets the LPGA some attention????
I think it’s just about ludicrous for the one player to claim she didn’t know this rule.
Not sure about the rest of the story...I guess it gets the LPGA some attention????
I think the difference is one is under the Tour’s watchful eye and the other is mostly on the players. Apples to oranges.
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There are officials all over the golf course, not to mention the amount of television coverage. Not unlike sand-gate where a speck of sand moved in a backswing, this should be extremely obvious if it's genuinely occurring the way it's been presented.
I don't think it's apples to oranges at all.
That one was a debacle. Well, there was a penalty, but we're not going to tell the other player in the playoff in case she decides to go for it in two and ends up in the water, 'cuz then we got some drama again...
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You think it's smart that someone can't ask a caddie what that player has hit, but there is no rule that says they can't walk over to their bag and find out for themselves?
I don't think the way it's written genuinely protects the rest of the field.
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The biggest hole here for our speculation is how much it actually occurs out there. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like it does or does not happen all the time (genuinely do not know), nor do I feel bad for anyone who does it getting called on it by someone looking to gain some sort of advantage, but I also don't sympathize with someone who sees it regularly and selectively calls it (again pure speculation based on argument).
Sure as hell benefited CK in this case. Gets her card, gets to spend all week on social media being 'relevant' etc etc.
Any answer I give would be pure speculation.
When I don't have any facts, I like to go off the next best thing: hearsay and rumor.
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That is why I said "think" and not "know" haha
Threads like these ARE pure speculation. May as well have some fun with it.
Then I think she has.
My issue with anyone pointing fingers at Kim is that she did nothing wrong as far as the rules go.
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I don't know if knowing the number on the club is that big of a help to even warrant a penalty. I hit my 8i, for example, a different distance than any of my playing partners and even if they know I hit an 8i I only know if I choked down, swung at 90% or made solid contact, all of which would figure into how far the ball goes.
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Funniest thing is the caddie gave wrong information anyway!!! (flashed 3 instead of the 4)
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Caddies signal the on course announcers, that is normal. The caddie signalling another caddie I doubt. Now I am sure they look in the bag to see what they hit but it is different. I don't get not knowing the rule, like everyone knows club selection = advice, stated distance = not advice.
I highly doubt LPGA Q school had on air announcers following groups so the caddies should NOT be flashing club numbers. If you want them to know just don't put a towel over the bag
I highly doubt LPGA Q school had on air announcers following groups so the caddies should NOT be flashing club numbers. If you want them to know just don't put a towel over the bag
I feel bad for Weber if her caddie did it and she didn't know about it. I would be very unhappy with my caddie if that was the case.
Whether it happens all the time or not I play a tiny bit of competitive golf and I know the rule and would never ask anyone. I would expect a pro to know it. It is certainly and advantage as after 2 or 3 holes I would expect players know how their partners hit the ball and are able to club off them.
Regarding what Kim did I think she was wrong to wait. Knowing about the penalty might change a players strategy. Being more aggressive on a putt they need or trying to reach a par 5 in two for example. I would want to know right away if I was in that situation.
Whether it happens all the time or not I play a tiny bit of competitive golf and I know the rule and would never ask anyone. I would expect a pro to know it. It is certainly and advantage as after 2 or 3 holes I would expect players know how their partners hit the ball and are able to club off them.
Regarding what Kim did I think she was wrong to wait. Knowing about the penalty might change a players strategy. Being more aggressive on a putt they need or trying to reach a par 5 in two for example. I would want to know right away if I was in that situation.