feedback video 3 from lesson 5/17/2020
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feedback video 3 from lesson 5/17/2020
bro, it's so much more than 3 shots that I can improve around the greens. but instead of 3 shots around the greens, i'd rather add 3 more greens in regulation.
tyler and i messaged yesterday and decided it was a good idea to get together, even though i’ve only played once and hadn’t practiced the move from sunday. he wanted to do 3d mapping with audio feedback.
we started on trackman with a 7i. i wasn’t really feeling good about the swing. the path was way left, normal short backswing, and i was swinging pretty aggressively and topping out under 80mph.
he hooked up the sensors, and we got to work. the first thing he saw was that my pelvis was moving to the ball too much. so he gave me the feel of pressing my finger on my trailing hip flexor, and feeling like i’m squishing the finger in the back swing. basically moving the trailing hip back and away. we made two rehearsal swings, and the first swing was what he wanted to see so we didn’t focus much more on that.
we set the sensors with a baseline backswing depth and wrist position. the goal was to make the backswing with the tone present the whole way. if the tone stops, that’s a bad thing. it was going ok, but inconsistent. so tyler wanted me to slow it down. the goal was to swing under 75mph. which was damn near impossible! one of the smoothest, most effortless swings i made to keep it under 75mph was actually 86mph! we finally got it at 78mph and tyler was liking the path more.
we made a few swings with driver. again, one of the smoothest, most effortless swings i tried to keep at 75mph was 98mph. crazy town.
the wrists are still not getting there. but the feel will still be to keep the swing under 75mph in practice, and nice and smooth to get deeper in the backswing.
Your post in the crossfield video thread about needing to hit more greens made me go looking for if you had ever mentioned how many greens you ARE hitting. Or how many you are hoping to hit to get your scoring and cap where you want them. This is the closest a search would let me find. Do you mind me asking those numbers? You obviously spend time going over your own stuff to improve your game, and I'm sure have identified pretty well where your best chances for improvement are (GIR) so I'm also kind of curious, depending on what those numbers are, why you identify that as the thing that needs the most improvement to affect scoring. You've said your wedge game has been struggling, so is it to keep the wedge out of your hand more? Is putting a strength you want to capitalize on? Just have a number in your head of how many greens it should take to score __ consistently...? I never know how these questions read, so know that I'm not wanting to shoot holes in anything. Just honestly curious. I've achieved some of my goals by targeted effort, and others kind of by accident, and I love how different all our games are and how breaking down someone's numbers says different things to different people.
Iron swing looked good. Another reason I'm curious about the GIR numbers. How are you feeling about the wedge work? The first takeaway in that video, not gonna lie, kind of had me reeling back a little. Looked much better on the second one. Feeling any closer to getting some of that grooved at all or still having to focus to hit that low point?
Good stuff as always and thanks for sharing your lessons with us.
Awesome stuff. Great write ups, love sharing what your working on and how its going! I'm working on some back swing position changes too that seem similar. I'm doing a lot of dry back swings in my living room during conference calls
yeah, 100%. When I fixed my sequencing a bit all of my "hard swings" felt totally effortless. Its probably the biggest Ah-Ha moment I've had in golf.thanks man. i'm laying it all out there. no shying away from these struggles!
it was pretty mind-blowing for tyler and me that this sluggish, minimal effort driver swing was 98mph, where my typical "all out" swing struggles to get to 100mph. he says I have a ton of speed potential, we just need to get a deeper backswing with better wrist set, and better sequencing. also crazy that my sluggish, lazy 7i swing attempting to hit 75mph was actually 86mph.
so my range work will consist of a few things. first, feeling that trailing hip "pinching" my finger on the backswing, basically loading it away from the ball. in my setup I will put a headcover just opposite the ball to get the path more from the inside. and the swing will be thinking about the tone staying on throughout getting all the way to the top, and trying to swing at only 75mph. we can add more speed later.
Wow, this has been a great thread @McLovin.
I love seeing the work you have done with your coach. If you are already swinging your 7i in the high 80's you definitely have the capacity to swing Driver at least 105.
I really am impressed what you and your coach are doing.
Great seeing the shortgame work payoff for
You last week.
I love how responsive and accessible your coach is. Driver and irons swings looked good from the video
How tall are you?thanks man. i'm laying it all out there. no shying away from these struggles!
it was pretty mind-blowing for tyler and me that this sluggish, minimal effort driver swing was 98mph, where my typical "all out" swing struggles to get to 100mph. he says I have a ton of speed potential, we just need to get a deeper backswing with better wrist set, and better sequencing. also crazy that my sluggish, lazy 7i swing attempting to hit 75mph was actually 86mph.
so my range work will consist of a few things. first, feeling that trailing hip "pinching" my finger on the backswing, basically loading it away from the ball. in my setup I will put a headcover just opposite the ball to get the path more from the inside. and the swing will be thinking about the tone staying on throughout getting all the way to the top, and trying to swing at only 75mph. we can add more speed later.
How tall are you?
I’m surprised that swing doesn’t get 100+ mph easily. Nice progress you’re making there.
I love this Chris. You swings in the past few videos is looking really good. Tyler seems like an incredible coach. Those scores are going to start dropping!!thanks!!!
i’m 5’10
it’s from poor sequencing, path moving left through impact (not ott per my instructor, more from poor weight shift), and not getting the club set through the wrists. the lazy, slow driver swing posted above was 98mph per trackman. so we will keep working on the slow swing, and build speed back in.
i picked up a selfie golf stick, sport ear buds, and sc200 to aid my work with tyler when he goes out of town. i’m all in, baby
I love this Chris. You swings in the past few videos is looking really good. Tyler seems like an incredible coach. Those scores are going to start dropping!!
I'm two years in and yesterday I shot 17 strokes higher than my handicap... Everything has been pretty decent with my drills and practice and I've done them a lot.... But then I get on the course. I know the feeling sir, but stick with it. I'm rooting we both are good when I come down in December/January.I played last week, and it was horrendous. I couldn't get off the tee, my irons were hard hooks. I barely broke 90. That is not the score I expected after 4 months of intense practice and lessons. Because golf is the stupidest game ever conceived, the one bright spot was my short game, which is usually the worst part of my game.
So I texted Tyler during the round and told him things were bad, saying we need to get back together. He asked me to send him some videos of my next practice session.
I did a marathon practice session yesterday. Full swing driver, 7i, and pitches with the 56. Trying to implement everything he had me do recently. With driver, complete backswing, keep the swing speed around 80mph, plane zero or positive. With iron, complete backswing, keep the swing speed around 80mph. With SW, more of a stack-and-tilt type move, very rhythmic. I brought my newly-acquired SC200 with me to track ss.
It was a good session. Funny enough, I had a really hard time keeping the swing speed down. Most 7i swings floated 86-90mph, most drivers 102-105. I don't know how accurate SC200 is, but that was the consistent reading. Most SW pitches were in the 40-45mph range. SW was a big struggle, though.
So I put the videos together for him last night, and as good as I was hitting the ball, the swing itself is just so discouraging. Backswing is shorter than ever, transition rushed. We're almost 10 lessons into this together, and I don't feel like we're making any progress. Great rehearsal, completely different actual backswing. I'll keep plugging along, but whatever I'm doing is not working.
I played last week, and it was horrendous. I couldn't get off the tee, my irons were hard hooks. I barely broke 90. That is not the score I expected after 4 months of intense practice and lessons. Because golf is the stupidest game ever conceived, the one bright spot was my short game, which is usually the worst part of my game.
So I texted Tyler during the round and told him things were bad, saying we need to get back together. He asked me to send him some videos of my next practice session.
I did a marathon practice session yesterday. Full swing driver, 7i, and pitches with the 56. Trying to implement everything he had me do recently. With driver, complete backswing, keep the swing speed around 80mph, plane zero or positive. With iron, complete backswing, keep the swing speed around 80mph. With SW, more of a stack-and-tilt type move, very rhythmic. I brought my newly-acquired SC200 with me to track ss.
It was a good session. Funny enough, I had a really hard time keeping the swing speed down. Most 7i swings floated 86-90mph, most drivers 102-105. I don't know how accurate SC200 is, but that was the consistent reading. Most SW pitches were in the 40-45mph range. SW was a big struggle, though.
So I put the videos together for him last night, and as good as I was hitting the ball, the swing itself is just so discouraging. Backswing is shorter than ever, transition rushed. We're almost 10 lessons into this together, and I don't feel like we're making any progress. Great rehearsal, completely different actual backswing. I'll keep plugging along, but whatever I'm doing is not working.
I feel ya'. It's a long road. Was looking at some of Tyler's youtube vids last night. It's always worse before it gets better.
Looking at your vids, I was wondering why the swing isn't longer but the speed appears very good. The pivot he teaches and the shallowing make sense.
The SC200 is about a couple of mph higher than Trackman - I think my 96 was 93 on Trackman.
that makes sense. I pretty much never hit 105 with a driver. and knowing that my backswing is as short as it is, and as smoothly as i'm trying to swing, the speed makes less sense.
I guess I was just hoping for SOME progress. not like "ok you're all fixed" in a short period of time, but something. and it's not like I've always had this short backswing. it's something that's crept in over the last 2-3 years, and now feels damn near impossible to fix.
i'm committed and i'll keep working hard.