mini-driver question from a historical hater

I utilize length well for speed so it's a little more of a difference for me. The difference between top end speed with my 45.5 and a 44 would be 3.5 mph or so. It usually rounds to 4.
 
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The R7 seems to come stock with a Riptide , which I could probably get at D3-D4 if I ordered at 44.25

Hmmmmm, this might be one of my patented off season experiments

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I utilize length well for speed so it's a little more of a difference for me. The dude between top end speed with my 45.5 and a 44 would be 3.5 mph or so. It usually rounds to 4.

Yeah yeah you swing 118 blah blah and have chiseled abs. And I swing 104 and can knock an 8 iron into a wine glass from 153yds

One day we will have our own sitcom on CBS like perfect strangers.

It's can't miss
 
don't need a ton of help forgiveness wise. 305cc doesn't really intimidate me so the R7 seemed appealing because it'd be easier to hit off the deck here and there than the Callaway
I have a brnr and think the size is fantastic. I grew up playing drivers with smaller heads so 305 isn’t small.

Now that there is a lefty 13.5° r7 I’m seriously thinking I need to pick one up. Hopefully find a cheap head only used.
 
I have a brnr and think the size is fantastic. I grew up playing drivers with smaller heads so 305 isn’t small.

Now that there is a lefty 13.5° r7 I’m seriously thinking I need to pick one up. Hopefully find a cheap head only used.

I still remember using my 983K ---365cc!

It looked huge back then!
 
Is it going to be exclusively a tee club. Why not a second driver higher loft driver built to the length you want. Marty Jertsen Ping’s head of fitting is a big advocate of the shorter driver strategy. Callaway & Ping make a 12* head that you could add a degree of loft to.
 
Is it going to be exclusively a tee club. Why not a second driver higher loft driver built to the length you want. Marty Jertsen Ping’s head of fitting is a big advocate of the shorter driver strategy. Callaway & Ping make a 12* head that you could add a degree of loft to.

The thinking is my ball position which is middle of my stance. It's not optimal for driver but better than it was. But a 45.5 inch driver with me at 6 foot with tiny arms, i'm not sure i am swinging optimally. It feels a little clunky.

I feel i swing a bit more free with my 3 wood, so i thought maybe a 44.25 mini with 305 head i'd swing almost as fast given a bit more natural swing. Plus maybe id be more accurate (Shotscope driver FIR was 51% this year, no bueno)

I could be totally off. But for 699 CAD for an R7 i kinda want to do it.

I asked my family if they had already bought me Xmas gifts and they said yes, LOL

So i guess it's on me.
 
My question for you… do you want it as a driver replacement of for a change up. Max forgiveness to hit a drive that gaps shorted than driver. The “thriver “ concept.
 
My question for you… do you want it as a driver replacement of for a change up. Max forgiveness to hit a drive that gaps shorted than driver. The “thriver “ concept.

Driver replacement, i would not carry this with a driver in the same round
 
Maybe you're just not swinging hard enough, dial it up to 11!
 
Driver replacement, i would not carry this with a driver in the same round
I’m not your level of center contact player. So I would rather set of a full sized driver head with the conditions that get you that confident / consistency your looking for. Instead of using a smaller head to get there.
 
I’m not your level of center contact player. So I would rather set of a full sized driver head with the conditions that get you that confident / consistency your looking for. Instead of using a smaller head to get there.

In my head i'm kinda thinking what would be better....hitting it 268 with 51% fairways, or hitting it like 259 with 72% fairways.

I'm not sure that's the exact math.....but something like that

It's what i'm debating trying
 
In my head i'm kinda thinking what would be better....hitting it 268 with 51% fairways, or hitting it like 259 with 72% fairways.

I'm not sure that's the exact math.....but something like that

It's what i'm debating trying
72 and 259.

But my idea might get you 259 and 80-85%
 
72 and 259.

But my idea might get you 259 and 80-85%

You're more on the Cobra Tour Length type bandwagon?

It's not a bad idea. I had a 44.5 radspeed.

I would definitely consider that but do they have a tour length for lefties in 2025? Does anyone? In my experience most OEMs have said they can't guarantee a swingweight at 44.5
 
You're more on the Cobra Tour Length type bandwagon?

It's not a bad idea. I had a 44.5 radspeed.

I would definitely consider that but do they have a tour length for lefties in 2025? Does anyone? In my experience most OEMs have said they can't guarantee a swingweight at 44.5
On. I’m just saying why give up the CC forgiveness of a normal driver if you can build it to your swing weight & total weight at the length you want.
 
You're more on the Cobra Tour Length type bandwagon?

It's not a bad idea. I had a 44.5 radspeed.

I would definitely consider that but do they have a tour length for lefties in 2025? Does anyone? In my experience most OEMs have said they can't guarantee a swingweight at 44.5
With adjustable weights that seems odd to me that they can’t get the swing weight figured out.
 
On. I’m just saying why give up the CC forgiveness of a normal driver if you can build it to your swing weight & total weight at the length you want.

I had definitely considered. Cobra for a few years did the tour length but i don't see it offered now.

I have reached out to every OEM in the past about creating a D3 driver at 44.5 inches. They have all told me that "they would do their best" but couldn't guarantee.

Believe it or not PXG was one of the most communicative about how they could do it.

If any OEM wants a sale.....i'm with you. Give me a 44.5 at D3 and i'll order it
 
With adjustable weights that seems odd to me that they can’t get the swing weight figured out.

If you cut more than an inch off a driver i can't recall but i think thats over 6-8 SW points.

So even with weights, if the stock SW is D2, it's hard to get it back there.

It's been a couple of years mind you for me.....so i could be wrong on how easy this is now
 
The thinking is my ball position which is middle of my stance. It's not optimal for driver but better than it was. But a 45.5 inch driver with me at 6 foot with tiny arms, i'm not sure i am swinging optimally. It feels a little clunky.

I feel i swing a bit more free with my 3 wood, so i thought maybe a 44.25 mini with 305 head i'd swing almost as fast given a bit more natural swing. Plus maybe id be more accurate (Shotscope driver FIR was 51% this year, no bueno)

I could be totally off. But for 699 CAD for an R7 i kinda want to do it.

I asked my family if they had already bought me Xmas gifts and they said yes, LOL

So i guess it's on me.

I am not sure how a normal driver with the loft you are looking for in a mini driver finished to the same length as the mini driver wouldn’t give you the same things with a more forgiving package. Particularly if you are replacing the driver.
 
Following for science 👀
 
I am not sure how a normal driver with the loft you are looking for in a mini driver finished to the same length as the mini driver wouldn’t give you the same things with a more forgiving package. Particularly if you are replacing the driver.

We're starting to work towards something here.....i just need to know who can actually make me this if the Cobra Tour Length is no longer an option
 
The hard to get back to the your SW is not something I considered. I assumed weights Abd lead infused hot melt could do that Magic.
 
I mentioned in another thread i might dabble with a mini-driver with some of the changes in my swing i have made. I think a shorter shaft , with my new ball position, might lead to a better turn and perhaps a similar SS, with a bit more control.

Today as an experiment, i used my TSR2+ set to 11.5 as a driver in my virtual round. This was on a trackman based system so the data was good, and i averaged 255yds off the tee and did not miss a fairway (my fairway percentage during the season with driver was 51% FWIW)

The TSR2 is 43.75 inches, and i'd probably order a mini at 44.25 or so to get a little more SS....I was thinking of the R7 which seems right in my sweet spot at 305cc. A bit smaller than the Callaway but a bit bigger than Titleist.

Question for guys that have them----Do you know what your SS difference is between a 45+ inch driver and a 44 inch mini? Are we talking 1-2 mph?

@Jman cause i'm sure he has some good data here
If you can give me a few days I can probably get my buddy to the sim to do a comparison.
 
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