Thanks CanadanI'm happy to help clear this up for you.
Here is me talking about the head in hand with images of it behind me
Here is a close up of the wedge face and how the grooves are designed with keeping water out of the grooves in mind
Here is the timestamp on an image that shows the inner design logic and the slight hollow construction
And as JB noted, the product has been featured on the site for a number of weeks now, which pictures to reference.
I am sure you are correct. Even Cleveland calls it a half cavity on its website. I don’t know where I got that idea, but it seems like I read it somewhere. Maybe senility is taking hold.
Nah, you are wise. I think sometimes its equated to forgiveness as so many companies have gone that route. The irony is that Mizuno is not calling this a game improvement wedge or even a forgiving one. I think the shaping throws us all off.I am sure you are correct. Even Cleveland calls it a half cavity on its website. I don’t know where I got that idea, but it seems like I read it somewhere. Maybe senility is taking hold.
I support this.Dan described the tech and collected data from his shots and explained what was occurring. That's about all we can expect from a solid presentation off a mat.
Wedges - need to get outside with them to compare. If someone, I mean, wants to send me an ES21 and compare it to my MP T20's, I'll be happy to compare with pics, too.
I have a golf course and driving range with two chip/pitch areas 3 minutes from the house... with good lies and really crappy lies and rough.
If you check out a lot of our Range Days videos, you see both. Swings and data. It changes from review to review with different angles and what we are shooting.Interesting tech. IDK what to think. $200. Would I gain that value in performance? I’ll swing one if when I can.
Nice review. One minor feedback. I find myself wishing I could see the reviewer swing rather than just see the screen. There is something about seeing the swing and impact that makes the data more tangible. Harder video production. I understand that part. Just my n=1 take.
I think I saw one of these on Monday. Most of the stuff when I played is Mizuno, and I know that's all the pro uses. Would he have been able to get one? All I know is it was really busy, he had to walk away from me for a second, and there was a mizzy wedge hanging on the edge of the counter on his side. I went full 'what is that?!' and grabbed it. It looked like the pictures I'm seeing. I got half a partial swing and about 3 seconds looking down on it before he barked at me, took it back, and shooed me to warmup area. It didn't look weird at all over the ball. Not my favorite shape, but looked totally normal. I'm really curious now to try one. $200 does seem a little steep, but anything moving the cg up, forward, or more centered I want to try. Really interesting step away from normal design by Mizuno.
JB, where Mizuno is offering only the wide and narrow sole, how are these to open up? In my T20 58/06 I went with a m grind and can lay it wide open with no change in my leading edge, do these have heel and toe relief on the narrow sole?Hit about 30 balls with this yesterday to gauge consistency and spin control and with the 56, I was right around 10k spin throughout, playing a knockdown shot right around 90 yards. This was done with a UST Mamiya Recoil Wedge Proto shaft (I love that shaft). One area not talked about very much is the sound and how I feel Mizuno nailed it with the construction. So many times a tech filled club will have a different audible tone at impact that really becomes a bit more polarizing. The ES21 sounds like a wedge is supposed to sound (to my ears).
The standard seems fine. The wide might be a bit of a tougher play there. They seem to have done a good job in relief where you need it.JB, where Mizuno is offering only the wide and narrow sole, how are these to open up? In my T20 58/06 I went with a m grind and can lay it wide open with no change in my leading edge, do these have heel and toe relief on the narrow sole?
I love the sound of that. The whole 2020 Mizuno release, to me, is like a kid looking at a Lamborghini for the first time. It's the coolest thing out there, and one day, when you grow up, you might have one. As far as throwing a wrench in your setup, I'll gladly help you out by taking it off your hands. For the good of your mental health, and the community of courseThis wedge is throwing a wrench in things for my setup, because I keep coming back to it. I don't know why genuinely, but I crave hitting it.