I mean they’re still stronger lofted than most. So you may lose distance to the standard hot metal but still have more distance than other sets.Do you think the forgiveness advantage offsets any distance loss due to weaker lofts?
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I mean they’re still stronger lofted than most. So you may lose distance to the standard hot metal but still have more distance than other sets.Do you think the forgiveness advantage offsets any distance loss due to weaker lofts?
I mean they’re still stronger lofted than most. So you may lose distance to the standard hot metal but still have more distance than other sets.
It's possible you see a little less distance than you might if you're getting excessive roll, but it should be useable/controllable distance.That's good to know.
I have an iron fitting scheduled at the PGA Superstore tomorrow, and want to try the Mizzy JPX925s, especially the HL, as I am a more "mature" golfer now, and do not swing as fast as I used to 20 years ago. consequently, I need help getting more height on my irons.
I also want to try the Callaway Smoke HL, as I have heard lots of good things about it.
And maybe the Ai300?
I swear fittings should be outside on grass, I absolutely despise mats.I was able to go to a local golf store after work and hit a LH 7 iron HMP today. I’ve never gotten decent spin, launch, and landing angle off mats but the numbers scared me they were crazy low. The club felt beautiful though, I thought I hit alot great shots. I know I should ignore this as my Apex CF19s do the same at this store off the mats and the Bridgestone ball or rock they use. I have no problem launching my CF19s and holding greens with the Callaway CTX I use.
Anyways, started with the Recoil Dart 90S and honestly felt it was too light. I don’t like light shafts in irons, feel like its OTT or pulls etc.
Switched to the MMT 105S and immediately liked the weight and hit better shots. Felt I was banging off the heel a bit causing a pull, same with the Darts too.
Guy came by and I asked if they had the Mizuno Optimizer, he said yes so he went and got the tablet. Amazingly, the results confirmed the best graphite shaft for me was the MMT 105S. Top 3 shafts just for kickers were these which would just destroy my elbows.
- NS Pro Modus 115 S
4.90118g - PROJECT X LZ 6.0
- 4.90120g - NS Pro Modus 120 S
4.70114g
Optimizer also recommended 1* flat, another feel I felt hitting balls.
I’m thinking about this, if I can just ignore the low spin and landing angle numbers and go with how the club felt, I’ll pull the trigger tomorrow. The deal is too good with the shaft.
Oh, the Optimizer also recommended no lower than a 6 iron which is what I play now and would order. I go hybrids 5,4 etc.
Those look pretty!!
Enjoy! Wish we had better weather so I could swing mine more. It's just not the same indoors.
Enjoy! Wish we had better weather so I could swing mine more. It's just not the same indoors.
Did you use “ball normalization” ? Used for practice range balls…….It's not. And I found the Top Tracer places by me really are way off on distance. Makes me even more depressed.
Did you use “ball normalization” ? Used for practice range balls…….
Also if there's any kind of particular data anyone would like to see please let me know!Booked some trackman studio time tomorrow to get numbers for these irons...had been playing more by feel, so I'll report back!
Awesome - Enjoy!
Some more follow up thoughts after a nights sleep:Went to my nearby Trackman studio to hit some irons today. I am bummed I forgot to bring the RCT balls I own, because this place has a short area from hitting area to screen, and all of the spin numbers were calculated based on the launch metrics, not the real and true spin. We can fight that fight somewhere else on how accurate or not it may be, but I'll have to go back next week and see what kind of difference I see with RCT balls and more accurate spin.
I hit 5 shots with each club for this test, and didn't remove any. I had a few fat shots which you'll notice on the data, but overall my ball speeds were pretty consistent and fast. Some takeaways for me:
-spin with the GW was DEFINITELY higher than what I see on course. There wasn't an option to pick a GW and I don't see 8000-9000 RPM's even on a "traditional" 50 degree. That definitely shortened up the flight from normal.
-The spin numbers overall are probably a tick higher than what I see, again I'll grab more data with a RCT ball
-The 4, 5, and 6 got a little clumped together - curious for me if that's gonna need any tweaking. Not to harp on spin, but I think it's related. I'm not spinning my 5 iron at 4900 in real life and my 6 iron only 100 rpms more...something wonky there
-The good shots for 7-PW felt the most accurate to what I see outside for carry numbers
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Those 925's are working well for you. You are very consistent through each club!Some more follow up thoughts after a nights sleep:
-The ball speed I get (and smash factor, kind of one in the same) is so so good. I mean popping 1.48 and 1.49 with a 4 iron is awesome. And through the 6, 7, and 8 iron staying in the 1.4 and high 1.3's is great for me. And there are some fat shots and mis-hits thrown in. Really shows the consistency of the ball speeds produced all over the face.
-I went in my Trackman App to find more data. Found the height for all of these shots and took the averages:
GW: 86.4 ft
PW: 92.8 ft
9i: 101.8 ft
8i: 102.8 ft
7i: 100 ft
6i: 98.8 ft
5i: 98.6 ft
4I: 75.8 ft
Only real outlier there is the 4 iron being lower, but the consistency of height with the rest is spot on. And based on what I've seen outside and some scenarios I've faced, I've been able to get more height out of it when I needed to. Very pleased with these peak heights. I wish landing angles were saved for all of them.
-Also, as someone who is working on having my normal flight be a small controllable cut, pretty pleased with my dispersions. Especially when you add the fact I went from GW up so my longer clubs were on the tail end. Misses will happen, but besides hitting them fat, none of them were drastically short
They've been really great so far! I really love how they can give me a lot of forgiveness when I'm not spot on with them. Excited to keep working them in this winter and get into some competition golf with them next spring and summerThose 925's are working well for you. You are very consistent through each club!
The forgiveness is crazy good i need all the help i can get. I wish i could get your height. I just get over 90 or so i cant break that 100 mark.They've been really great so far! I really love how they can give me a lot of forgiveness when I'm not spot on with them. Excited to keep working them in this winter and get into some competition golf with them next spring and summer
I've always been a high ball player, so lucky for me heights never been an issue. The fact that all of them besides the 4 iron were within 10 or so feet of each other was pretty coolThe forgiveness is crazy good i need all the help i can get. I wish i could get your height. I just get over 90 or so i cant break that 100 mark.